Does anyone play HoN?

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manic_depressive13

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I've noticed that whenever a discussion about MOBAs comes up, people tend to mention DOTA2, LoL and even Smite. But even in threads with multiple pages there's nary a mention of HoN. Now I started on HoN, I enjoy it and I'm pretty decent at it. But I haven't played or really looked in to any of the other MOBAs. So my question are as follows:

Why do so few people play HoN? Is it inferior in some way, or is there some other reason? Am I a huge mook for sticking with this game?
 

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Holy overuse of acronyms Batman!

What is HoN? What is MOBA's?

What the fuck did I just read and why the use of the acronym in the opening post. Maybe you didn't have room in the thread title but you surely do in the post.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
Why do so few people play HoN? Is it inferior in some way, or is there some other reason? Am I a huge mook for sticking with this game?
It basically lost the MOBA war to LoL in the sense of gamer adoption.

Also, it was NOT F2P before. It cost a good ~$25 I believe. (Forgot how much I paid for it).

Friends and I decided to buy/play it to avoid the trolls given the cost involved. Was fun enough and similar enough to any MOBA. More hardcore players will talk about the balance/fun/brokeness of S2/Hon specific heroes - but I think they're all okay.

The game is more casual in my opinion with a lot more casual playing mode (eg midwars)

Nothing wrong with sticking with the game as long as there's a playing population, but there is an appeal to playing a game that tens and millions of others are playing (compare to hon which probably has couple hundred thousand active users)
 

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I play Hon almost exclusively in the moba genre. I have both League of legends and Dota2 installed, but I almost never play them, while I play Hon nearly every other day. (If only for a couple of games) I really don't know why I'm still drawn to it; I think it is most likely because its the moba I started with and am most comfortable with. I've gotten used to the 'feel' of the game and it's taken a while to do that. When I've played DOTA2 and LOL, my last hitting is off and I'm generally just less effective of a player. But it turns of features, it really doesn't have anything that other games offer.
 

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WeepingAngels said:
Holy overuse of acronyms Batman!

What is HoN? What is MOBA's?

What the fuck did I just read and why the use of the acronym in the opening post. Maybe you didn't have room in the thread title but you surely do in the post.
Sorry, that's Heroes of Newerth and Multiplayer Online Battlefield Arena. But honestly if you don't know what the acronyms stand for you're probably not in a position to answer my question.
dealzon said:
The game is more casual in my opinion with a lot more casual playing mode (eg midwars)
...Did you just call me casual?

Stuff like Midwars and Unranked matches were introduced much later though. Is HoN really perceived as being casual?
 

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I found that when I started playing HoN the community was not noob friendly at all. Coming from LoL, I didn't feel very welcome, so I almost uninstalled it.

The 3.0 patch was a GODSEND for new players, being able to learn the game with a better tutorial, and bot matches to learn how everything goes together.

The problem with HoN is that everyone remembers when the community was just inaccessible and horrible, whereas DOTA 2's and LoL's communities were a lot more accessible.

S2 has been trying to rectify this with HoN, but I could never convince anyone else that the game has improved.

I actually gave their other new game Strife a try over it's open weekend, and found that was really fun. While it isn't as hardcore as HoN, I found that the game mechanics somehow almost destroyed all hostility I received during my first PvP match in HoN.
 

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manic_depressive13 said:
I've noticed that whenever a discussion about MOBAs comes up, people tend to mention DOTA2, LoL and even Smite. But even in threads with multiple pages there's nary a mention of HoN. Now I started on HoN, I enjoy it and I'm pretty decent at it. But I haven't played or really looked in to any of the other MOBAs. So my question are as follows:

Why do so few people play HoN? Is it inferior in some way, or is there some other reason? Am I a huge mook for sticking with this game?
From the perspective of someone who doesnt play MOBAs, basically in the beginning there was HON and LOL which started things off. LOL grew extremely popular and HON sort of dissapeared. DOTA2 naturally grew popular because its has name power by sharing with DOTA, the original. HON just hasnt stood out, same with Smite Id say, and the only reason people know Smite is because its made by HiRez who did Tribes Ascend.
 

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Well LoL is highly accessible, Smite is different and DotA 2 is known for being the 'hard one' not to mention the newest. HoN to me was a stepping stone of the genres evolution, while I know its not a dead game I think of it like a relic I guess.

DotA 2 also had a lot of introductory guides from the community almost right away. That combined with the F2P model and community market its really not a surprise it became the new staple alongside the ever popular LoL.
 

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I remember playing HoN while it was in beta and me and one of my mates played it into the ground during this period - so much so that we actually decided to quit before the beta was even over.

It had no grip on us and neither of us returned to it.

I have since played LoL and played far much more of that. Perhaps because more of my friends were on it, perhaps because it was more accessible (easy to play, free etc.), but I had no desire to return to HoN. It was never a competition.

That is why at least I'm not playing HoN. If the beta had lasted only a week or two, I would've been much more likely to invest whilst I was hooked to the idea early on, but I imagine I still would've quit that extra bit down the line. For some reason, it just didn't have the draw that LoL did on me. Maybe something to do with incentivising continuously playing? I always get annoyed with MOBAs that after every game you are essentially back to square one and have to start over again every time, no matter what. It just grinds on me after a while and I have to stop.

Now, I don't play any MOBAs.
 

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WeepingAngels said:
Holy overuse of acronyms Batman!

What is HoN? What is MOBA's?

What the fuck did I just read and why the use of the acronym in the opening post. Maybe you didn't have room in the thread title but you surely do in the post.
HoN is Heroes of Newarth and a MOBA is Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.

OP: I did play Lol for a while, but then I had to wipe my computer and decided I didn't really want to go back to that dreadful community.
 

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WeepingAngels said:
Holy overuse of acronyms Batman!

What is HoN? What is MOBA's?

What the fuck did I just read and why the use of the acronym in the opening post. Maybe you didn't have room in the thread title but you surely do in the post.
Dont you DFRD? When I used to play YT:OP I was really good, then had to move on to FRT and SLK, but it was YT:IU that was really the shit. Only 1337 play YT:OP and they pwn n00bs in RTY-HFTC. DFRD FTW!

In all seriousness I was like you... I only came into this thread to find out what that stood for... Now I feel like the pork pie at the Bar Mitzvah, and am inching towards the door as someone seems to be reaching for their shotgun...

I wish people would write down what they mean. I went into a thread once thinking 'Yay! People finally talking about Ace Combat' before finding it was about Assassins Creed... It was only a few posts down I realised too. I also once found someone who had initialismed a game I played, but I didn't recognise it and missed the chance to respond! :/
 

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Wow...i've been hearing MOBA for years and finally someone actually bothers to give the full name. You do realise that acronyms are only usefull when you've already used their origin in the same piece? We communicate to expand understanding, not to suppress it :p
 

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HoN is just suffering a slow death. It will die eventually since DoTA 2 and LoL have a lot of competitions with good prize money and sponsors. Also a lot of big pro gaming organizations have teams in one or both of those MOBAs, so any smart pro player wanting to get into the genre will go to either of those two games. While HoN may still have a niche following, at the end of the day, it's community is dwarfed by both DoTA 2 and LoL. One only need look at the reddits for the three MOBAs and look at the number of subscribers. LoL has 455,000 subs, DoTA 2 has 136,000 and HoN only has a measly 10,000.

But to answer the OP, when HoN came out, it was pay-2-play, you had to buy the game, so the community was of course smaller. With LoL it was F2P from the get go. Being F2P meant a larger community and therefore greater interest. This of course translated to more people streaming LoL, more people watching and thus games conventions were more likely to host a LoL event than a HoN one. Just look at http://www.twitch.tv/directory and see which are the top streamed games and where HoN is on the list.

Even in release timing, Riot had S2 beat. LoL was officially released in Oct 2009 while HoN was in beta from April 2009 to May 2010, when was officially released. So one can see that for people new to the MOBA genre, if they had to pick between the two at the time, one was pay-2-play, another F2P, they'd likely try out LoL first and possibly stick with it rather than fork out cash for the other.

Then came DoTA 2(also F2P) which had the added bonus of being made by Valve and the addition to being the sequel to the MOBA that started it all. Valve also organized a massive DoTA 2 tournament in August 2011 to launch the game with a whopping $1.6 million prize pool. HoN had just gone F2P in July of that year, but it was already too late.
 

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Wasn't HoN just basically Dota 2, but then Valve made an actual Dota 2 and there was no longer much reason to play HoN?
 

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Elementary - Dear Watson said:
WeepingAngels said:
Holy overuse of acronyms Batman!

What is HoN? What is MOBA's?

What the fuck did I just read and why the use of the acronym in the opening post. Maybe you didn't have room in the thread title but you surely do in the post.
Dont you DFRD? When I used to play YT:OP I was really good, then had to move on to FRT and SLK, but it was YT:IU that was really the shit. Only 1337 play YT:OP and they pwn n00bs in RTY-HFTC. DFRD FTW!

In all seriousness I was like you... I only came into this thread to find out what that stood for... Now I feel like the pork pie at the Bar Mitzvah, and am inching towards the door as someone seems to be reaching for their shotgun...

I wish people would write down what they mean. I went into a thread once thinking 'Yay! People finally talking about Ace Combat' before finding it was about Assassins Creed... It was only a few posts down I realised too. I also once found someone who had initialismed a game I played, but I didn't recognise it and missed the chance to respond! :/
I know, it's ridiculous. Sometimes trying to read threads on a gaming website is matter of googling for acronyms every other sentence.

So is GOW Gears of War or God of War?It shouldn't matter because it's not that fucking hard to type either one out.