Does "c**ks*c*ker" qualify as hate speech?
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Not hate speech. 40 years ago, obscenities. Now, I don't think I've gone a day since I was in 5th grade where I haven't used one of them at least once.
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Not hate speech. 40 years ago, obscenities. Now, I don't think I've gone a day since I was in 5th grade where I haven't used one of them at least once.
I get what you mean by the cadence just seeming right, I'm the same way for ************ (which is really a disgusting concept now that I'm forced to stop and think about it). I'd say the same thing for cocksucker I say for ************: know who you are saying it to and in front of.
I think the argument could be made that it is hate speech in the same way that the word "fag" or "gay" is thrown around casually. It's used typically as a swear, to put down someone.
The reason that this is unacceptable is the same reason that calling something "gay" or someone a "fag" without really thinking about homosexuality is also unacceptable.
These words have meanings besides their use as swear words, they signify a homosexual man (or homosexuality in general, as is with the case for "gay").
But the users of the phrases protest! They say they're not really meaning to say anything about homosexuality, when they say it, they just mean "stupid, lame, dumb, undesirable", not "homosexual". The problem with this defense, is that actively using a word which has a regular meaning as a swear promotes an idea of equality of the actual meaning with the swear.
What I mean is, everytime you say "That's gay", you're promoting an understanding of the word "gay" with "stupid, lame, undesirable etc".
So when you call someone a "cocksucker" as an insult, you're basically saying that you consider "those that suck cocks" to be something worthy as an insult.
The reason that this is unacceptable is the same reason that calling something "gay" or someone a "fag" without really thinking about homosexuality is also unacceptable.
These words have meanings besides their use as swear words, they signify a homosexual man (or homosexuality in general, as is with the case for "gay").
But the users of the phrases protest! They say they're not really meaning to say anything about homosexuality, when they say it, they just mean "stupid, lame, dumb, undesirable", not "homosexual". The problem with this defense, is that actively using a word which has a regular meaning as a swear promotes an idea of equality of the actual meaning with the swear.
What I mean is, everytime you say "That's gay", you're promoting an understanding of the word "gay" with "stupid, lame, undesirable etc".
So when you call someone a "cocksucker" as an insult, you're basically saying that you consider "those that suck cocks" to be something worthy as an insult.
As a professional cocksucker myself, I take it as a compliment if I'm called it xD
People are all too damn over-sensitiveness around the minority's these days! Very few other than the overly-emotional ever care, it may count as hate-speech to some idiots but really the only time it's going to be offensive is the heterosexual CoD player you're yelling at over the Mic!
People are all too damn over-sensitiveness around the minority's these days! Very few other than the overly-emotional ever care, it may count as hate-speech to some idiots but really the only time it's going to be offensive is the heterosexual CoD player you're yelling at over the Mic!
I don't consider it that, and in fact there are similar phrases referring to the female genitalia in my language and I don't really think that referring to gay people.
Point is genitalia is very often used as profanity, and not everyone likes sucking on male genitalia
Point is genitalia is very often used as profanity, and not everyone likes sucking on male genitalia
I don,t really say how it qualifies as hate speech it might be a slur against homosexuals.
but has it ever been used as such? I,m pretty usre most people use it against some kind of complete douche bag.
saying stuff like "death to the gays/those who oppose my god/etc." is a form of hate speech because it makes people hate/kill other people.
but has it ever been used as such? I,m pretty usre most people use it against some kind of complete douche bag.
saying stuff like "death to the gays/those who oppose my god/etc." is a form of hate speech because it makes people hate/kill other people.
