I think you're in a very small minority with that opinion. Dragon Age 2 on the other hand...Deathmageddon said:Mass Effect 3 doesn't need to exist- ME2 ruined the franchise.
I think you're in a very small minority with that opinion. Dragon Age 2 on the other hand...Deathmageddon said:Mass Effect 3 doesn't need to exist- ME2 ruined the franchise.
I lol'd.Daystar Clarion said:This guy knows what he's talking about, I'm sick and tired of being able to accurately call for my teammates to to assist me with the touch of a button.D0WNT0WN said:Mass Effect does not need multiplayer, but I know what it does need.
KINECT SUPPORT!
Thats what the fans want.
I want voice recognition that may or may not work.
No. Shut up. Stop talking right now. They are not pulling "time and money" away from the single-player to work on the multiplayer. If you'd take ten seconds, just TEN, to do some looking into it for yourself, you'd know that the multiplayer portion of the game is being handled by BioWare Montreal. The main body for the single-player portion is being handled by BioWare Austin, which is where the company is headquartered.spartandude said:pulling away valuable time and money away from the single player especially when bioware is on thin ice? brilliant move
Just saying that I don't see the point in developing a redundant mode, a horde mode style multiplayer mode. I have Gears 3 for that.Snotnarok said:Okay I'm gonna be rude here and tell you what I see in your post.
"Do we really want Bioware giving us more ways to play our game and more content? No one asked for it and I don't think we should have this extra stuff. I'm not using it so it's stupid. I just want the one thing that they promised and this extra stuff is just needless."
It's a matter of opportunity cost. Bioware has a finite amount of manpower and resources, as far as I know. Ergo, they have to make decisions in what they use that manpower and resources to do. If we boil it down to a simple choice, given a portion of their budget, they could either use it to A) fund multiplayer development, or B) do something else. Now, "something else" can be anything- adding content to Mass Effect 3, refining existing content, working on a new project, retirement plan for Ed in the janitorial department, I don't know. What is is irrelevant. The resources that have gone into the multiplayer could have gone into something else. As the shrill voices on this thread will attest, this has not been a horribly popular decision.Ordinaryundone said:That's paranoia and a leading argument. You assume the multiplayer is "tacked on" without having played it, and you also assume that Bioware did not budget to have both. Its not like they are sitting back and saying "Hmm, we could make a good game, or we can have mutliplayer!" They've already addressed that (fallacious) argument. Many companies use different studios for their multiplayer, including Bioware, so I doubt any of the single player programmers or writers have been diverted.MailOrderClone said:That's not quite accurate. Including multiplayer does have an impact on the single player campaign in the form of diverted man-hours and diverted funds. A game without a multiplayer component is generally going to be better off than a game with a tacked-on multiplayer component.Ordinaryundone said:Obviously, because someone asked for it? Really, if the single player portion is enough for you, then don't worry about it. Multiplayer has no impact on the single player, and vice versa, so you won't be missing out on anything you would be interested in.
Dead Space 2 and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood were both fantastic even with "tacked on" multiplayer. Ditto Condemned 2, Dead Rising 2, Bioshock 2 (whose multi I actually really liked), GTA 4, and Red Dead Redemption. Just because you do not like multiplayer doesn't mean it drags a game down.
Its the last game in the series so possibly for longevity, maybe if they let people have multiplayer over lan and internet it could become a great shooter outside of the rpg-shooter of the main game.Lord Revan 117 said:I don't recall the Bioware forums for the ME series screaming for multiplayer as well as the single player experience. Typically Bioware makes the sort of games focused on the single player aspect alone, (see KOTOR, Jade Empire etc) this move to include multiplayer seems strange for them. Especially since the single player in the previous games was more than enough for most people, including myself. Why exactly are they including multiplayer no-one asked for?
Assassin's Creed, GTA 4, and Red Dead most certainly did not have "tacked on" multiplayer. Assassin's Creed was unique, GTA 4 had free mode, come on, and Red Dead was really fun just simply because of the mass of stuff to do, poker, horse racing, raiding bandit hideouts, finding treasure, etc.Ordinaryundone said:That's paranoia and a leading argument. You assume the multiplayer is "tacked on" without having played it, and you also assume that Bioware did not budget to have both. Its not like they are sitting back and saying "Hmm, we could make a good game, or we can have mutliplayer!" They've already addressed that (fallacious) argument. Many companies use different studios for their multiplayer, including Bioware, so I doubt any of the single player programmers or writers have been diverted.MailOrderClone said:That's not quite accurate. Including multiplayer does have an impact on the single player campaign in the form of diverted man-hours and diverted funds. A game without a multiplayer component is generally going to be better off than a game with a tacked-on multiplayer component.Ordinaryundone said:Obviously, because someone asked for it? Really, if the single player portion is enough for you, then don't worry about it. Multiplayer has no impact on the single player, and vice versa, so you won't be missing out on anything you would be interested in.
Dead Space 2 and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood were both fantastic even with "tacked on" multiplayer. Ditto Condemned 2, Dead Rising 2, Bioshock 2 (whose multi I actually really liked), GTA 4, and Red Dead Redemption. Just because you do not like multiplayer doesn't mean it drags a game down.
DO WANT.Xpheyel said:I can't wait for the Dead Space flight simulator!
It could be another division of bioware or EA doing it, or one team could be finished with their part of ME3 and they decided to put them to work on this. It's not so cut and dry like that all the time. Just think of it as a needless extra, it's there, it could be fun (don't know yet), let's just hope for the best eh? Eh? EH!? :ULord Revan 117 said:Just saying that I don't see the point in developing a redundant mode, a horde mode style multiplayer mode. I have Gears 3 for that.Snotnarok said:Okay I'm gonna be rude here and tell you what I see in your post.
"Do we really want Bioware giving us more ways to play our game and more content? No one asked for it and I don't think we should have this extra stuff. I'm not using it so it's stupid. I just want the one thing that they promised and this extra stuff is just needless."
If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, according to Xbox 360 Achievements [http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-9954-Mass-Effect-3-Co-Op-Hands-On-Preview-%E2%80%93-For-the-Good-of-the-Galaxy-.html], the multiplayer segment(s) of ME3 are EXACTLY like Gears 3's Horde mode.Snotnarok said:It could be another division of bioware or EA doing it, or one team could be finished with their part of ME3 and they decided to put them to work on this. It's not so cut and dry like that all the time. Just think of it as a needless extra, it's there, it could be fun (don't know yet), let's just hope for the best eh? Eh? EH!? :ULord Revan 117 said:Just saying that I don't see the point in developing a redundant mode, a horde mode style multiplayer mode. I have Gears 3 for that.Snotnarok said:Okay I'm gonna be rude here and tell you what I see in your post.
"Do we really want Bioware giving us more ways to play our game and more content? No one asked for it and I don't think we should have this extra stuff. I'm not using it so it's stupid. I just want the one thing that they promised and this extra stuff is just needless."