Does Society Hate Children?

[Danny Ocean]

Everyone thinks i'm older because my voice is deep>.>

Having the police call about something and they think your the man of the family feels weird.

Hehe, yeah. My own DAD mistook me for another man in the house when he called to talk to my mum. And I'm only 5'4".

Good points, keep 'em coming.
I especially like this one:

17 year olds are treated the same as 7 year olds.

Maybe it should be a gradual change into full citizenship? Instead of magically being able to do what you want when you hit 18.

 

[fluffylandmine]

Can I ask every adult out there to do a favor for me?
Never, ever, effing ever again say snot-nosed kids? please? That particular insult...bothers me because 6 year olds are snotty, everyone else just gets an occasional cold.

On topic, I think teens could be more responsible if we could get jobs earlier. I understand all the child labor laws and why there in place, but at 14 there are plenty of jobs you can handle. And, jobs make everyone more responsible. Or you wouldn't have a job, then starve, die horribly, etc etc.
I'm pretty sure im responsible for a teen(dont do drugs, get good grades, not F*&^ING annoying) and I hate anyone who isn't.
Ive been at a party were the mom wanted to go home and the 10 year old kid said no because she had been drinking. Valid point, but she passed a breathalizer and only a couple beers many hours ago. And the little kid screamed and swore. A lot. And ran off. I had to walk him back Israeli police force style, and had to sit him in the car. Thank god for child locks.

I think I was a really boring teen. Aparently my school was infested with drug dealers and heroin addicts. But no one ever offered me anything. I feel left out. I mean cmon, do I really look that straight laced?

Then again it took two years to convice people that I wasn't either Gay or a Moromon. For some reason I give off a weird vibe that makes people think i'm trustworthy. I'm not sure why...

Wow, that's really, kind of funny. But you speak the truth there, for some reason I know...People think I'm gay because I have long hair, wtf right most gay guys have fo-hawks or crew cuts, not to mention people think I'm jewish, even though I talk using the word JESUS more than most people I know.(I don't preach, people always just ask about my religious views for some reason)

Also a 7 year old and a 17 year old are completely different, just because they're not 18 doesn't mean they're equal. Kind of like how 'all men are equal' when really it means 'so long as your rich, white, free, and over 21 you're free'.

oh and I brought this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEp5yc-g3A

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Can I ask every adult out there to do a favor for me?
Never, ever, effing ever again say snot-nosed kids? please? That particular insult...bothers me because 6 year olds are snotty, everyone else just gets an occasional cold.

On topic, I think teens could be more responsible if we could get jobs earlier. I understand all the child labor laws and why there in place, but at 14 there are plenty of jobs you can handle. And, jobs make everyone more responsible. Or you wouldn't have a job, then starve, die horribly, etc etc.
I'm pretty sure im responsible for a teen(dont do drugs, get good grades, not F*&^ING annoying) and I hate anyone who isn't.
Ive been at a party were the mom wanted to go home and the 10 year old kid said no because she had been drinking. Valid point, but she passed a breathalizer and only a couple beers many hours ago. And the little kid screamed and swore. A lot. And ran off. I had to walk him back Israeli police force style, and had to sit him in the car. Thank god for child locks.

I think I was a really boring teen. Aparently my school was infested with drug dealers and heroin addicts. But no one ever offered me anything. I feel left out. I mean cmon, do I really look that straight laced?

Then again it took two years to convice people that I wasn't either Gay or a Moromon. For some reason I give off a weird vibe that makes people think i'm trustworthy. I'm not sure why...

Wow, that's really, kind of funny. But you speak the truth there, for some reason I know...

You know the truth? Pack it up boys this guys leading us to the holy land.(I kid, I kid.)


Moving a long, Gradual change=better then bursts of change.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

However, every single teen I've met seems like a rational human being. Only a tiny minority are 'problem children', and yet the whole is punished for the actions of the few. If people blanketed adults with the same treatment as they do children, there would be outrage.

It seems society view children as a second-class group, incapable of independant thought or responsibility. A group that needs to be controlled.

Thoughts?

Children are not a class within society. It is merely a transitory state before adult hood. If you and your peers were as rational as you claim to be you would actually realize the sweet free ride you are getting (free room and boarding) from your parents.

But most kids want to be adults without fully realizing the constant stress and responsibilities that hang over ones head. The issues you deal with bear the consquences of academic failure and dissaproval from your peers and parents. The issues adults deal with will either kill them or make them homeless (obviously some children do encounter these issues as well).

I don't say this to talk down to you, but to try and illustrate how myopic ones perspective is from childhood and how it slowly expands as they approach adult hood (for some, their perspective will never expand). The world is full of people that just want to do bad things to us and take our money it's easy to forget this when being raised in a suburban facade.

Someday (maybe today even) you'll realize that your parents are just people making up shit as they go along and they are restricting and controlling you because the real world scares them (from time to time) and putting you to the test out there is not a thought that comforts them.

 

[MysteriousSquirrel]

OF course society hates children. Its one of the reasons you dont see children too often portrayed in violent video games. If children were available in GTA or something like that, societies hate of them would draw many a rampage of videogame massacres. It would be an acceptable way to mow down those little turds.

 

[afrophysics]

I like it the way it is to be honest. I'm 16, and in the new school year I have to balance full-time education with a job. Frankly if the contempt of society is what I payed for the last 16 years of absolute naive bliss (next to nothing hanging over my head such as bills, taxes etc) then I'm fine with it. Then again I'm kind of rose tinting the past.

 

[Hey Joe]

I hate children.

I am society.

Therefore, yes.

It's probably something to with being in absolute control of them while they're young and having them slowly wanting more power. There's two things at play here.

1. We're losing our own relevance in the world as we pass the baton to the next generation.

2. We're genuinely scared that they're going to fuck up the world entirely, and until they show maturity we don't hate them, we fear them in a funny sort of way.

 

[poleboy]

I think the problem is that society does not really encourage you to act responsibly or carry any of the traditional adult burdens (such as paying the rent, cooking, cleaning) before you turn 18 and then BAM! Suddenly you're a totally different person in society's eyes. I think teenagers and children would act more mature and also be respected more by their elders if they gradually received priveliges and responsibilities during their teen years instead of metaphorically being thrown out into the street at 18.
Of course, parents can handle a lot of this alone. But society can help too, by granting some basic responsibility along with some benefits.

 

[WlknCntrdiction]

It's bad enough we're labeled unfairly(not sure if I qualify since I'm 19)by society but it's even worse when your own mum thinks you're a knife wielding, beer guzzling, chain smoking, heavy drug user just like the rest of the kids out on the streets. Typical conversation when I get home from a club or being out with friends:

Mum: "Hi Matthew (she smells smoke, my friends smoke, I don't), what's that smell? Have you been smoking?

Me: No

Mum: Are you sure? You smell of the stuff.

Me: *walk away because I've had this conversation millions of times and she fails to get it through her thick head that I don't smoke, never had, never will*

Now substitute the initial question with these ones:

"How much did you drink tonight?" (I don't drink)
"I told you you would get hurt doing that stuff" (after smashing my ankle against a bench whilst trying to do a precision in Parkour)
"Do your friends smoke/drink?" (yes, yes they do)
And by extension, "Have you been smoking/drinking?" (yes because my friends smoke/drink it automatically means I have no willpower of my own to resist if they should ever offer me a smoke/drink /sarcasm)

My parents brought me up well, I just wish my mum would have some kind of confidence in that fact after telling her for the hundredth time that I don't smoke/drink, it's like it goes in one ear and out the other. I've just not bothered to respond now, let her think what she does, when she comes across some sense and starts to actually respect me instead of thinking I'm an idiot then we'll talk. Parents talk about us never respecting them, it goes both ways ya know.

In the outside world though, whilst I've been doing Parkour numerous times have we(me and my friends)been made to feel like common criminals, what is it we're doing? you may ask. Go look up Parkour if you're not sure but suffice to say we're doing anything far from criminal, several times we've had security called on us, and one time the police. I mean I could understand if we were actually causing trouble but we're not doing anything illegal or endangering anybody or ourselves, and we're smart enough to know that if by some slight chance we injure ourselves because we're stupid enough to attempt and 20 foot drop and break our legs that it's our own damn fault, you(adults) treat us like we don't know what we're doing or that we need looking after.

It's this attitude that they have to treat kids like how they do that results in them rebelling and doing stupid things, if we're stopped and me and my friends are doing the farthest thing from criminal activity then I can sympathise with the "loitering" crowd who are just looking for something to do. If they can't even come do Parkour with us and actually do something constructive without being ragged on then it scares me to think how they'll(adults) react when they find a group of youths smoking a joint down an alley.

*group smoking a joint in an alley*

Police1: What do we have here guys?
*Police2 comes running*
Police2: Leave them kids, they're alright but we just got word of some kids clambering and vaulting over walls, let's go"

*Police and Police2 run to the scene of the "crime"*

 

[electric discordian]

I dont know about society but I hate kids pretty much without exception, be they the whining annoyances who spoil a romantic dinner out with my wife, the little scroats that sprayed one side of my car with paint stripper, the little bastards that hospitalised by god child by throwing him of a roof at school or the hordes of white middle class kids who think that its great to talk like snoop.

Lets also not forget about the fifteen year olds who on a regular basis tried to mug members of my universitys ninjitsu team and then tried to sue them after being broken into tiny pieces preventing them from competing in competition.

The final thing I shall say is that my mrs is a teacher and one of her collegues was headbutted in the stomach by one of her pupils, which caused her to nearly lose her baby. Society has basically taught children there "rights" but have removed all the mechanisms to punish them.

I was smacked across the face with a steel ruler when I was at school, it never did me any harm well actually it did, lacerated my cheek and chipped two of my teeth. The teacher got away with it, unlike today when they can be sacked for shouting at a pupil.

Society is scared because its circling the drain thanks to personal freedoms.

My god that sounded right wing as I sit in my Che Guevara shirt sipping from my Che Guevara cup!

 

[Typecast]

I think the babyboomers should be scared, they out number us 4:1, and as they get older and depend on the state, there's going to be fewer of us teen/twenty/thrity somethings to support them in their decrepitude.
What annoys me most about my country is that the young to old ratio is about 3:1 and young people get consistently outvoted because these daffy coots make up the majority of the voting population(I make no argument for lowering voting age or any such thing). AND I would like to add that older people are just as stupid as teenagers, and that age and experience is no cure for idiocy.
I don't want to live in the Victorian/Georgian era golden age that these duffers see through rose tinted jumbotrons. If a teacher had rapped me over the knuckles in high school I would have flying roundhouse kicked them in the squishy facial region! Not that I was ever in trouble for doing that to someone... while at school...

 

[poleboy]

Society has basically taught children there "rights" but have removed all the mechanisms to punish them.

I was smacked across the face with a steel ruler when I was at school, it never did me any harm well actually it did, lacerated my cheek and chipped two of my teeth. The teacher got away with it, unlike today when they can be sacked for shouting at a pupil.

First part: I agree.
Second part: While I agree that teachers need better tools to control students, violence only teaches people that violence is an acceptable way to get what you want. Its a powerful tool for discipline, but it can easily backfire as well. I don't think anyone wants to go back to the time when a schoolteacher was more or less a prisonkeeper with an educational agenda and students didn't have the basic human right to defend themselves verbally or physically.

 

[Dommyboy]

Even virtual society hates little children. Eg. Xbox Live.

 

[howard_hughes]

I think these feeling of animosity toward teens may stem from the whole "I'm 15 look I'm an adult I want responsibility already" while we're all sitting here wanting to punch you in the face because you don't have to worry about bills, mortgages, family members that might be dependent on YOU, and of course the almighty 'if you don't want to work you don't really have to' while we're stuck doing the same stressful things day in and day out wishing we had what it is you're trying to throw away.

 

[Ionait]

Poof

 

[Ronmarru]

I don't like children(hate is a strong word) but I think I have a good reason: I'm 16. I go to high school with the tards and am terribly frightened that some of them will be doctors and lawyers. Granted that the problem children probably won't be doctors or lawyers but you get my point.

 

[Ronmarru]

Sorry, double post.

 

[LewsTherin]

Hmmm...*MOST* of the adults I come in regular contact with are not visibly stereotyped against younger folk, but then again most of them aren't baby boomers. Old people seem nicer around here. I don't dress or ac in a way I would suspect people of finding offencive, but me and my friends still get dirty looks on the bus. Xenophobia is perhaps inevitable as the older crowd doesn't realize that the world is different than when they were teenagers and that we might be acting differently than they were because of this. You can't tell me that this generation is the only ones that abuse alchohol/drugs/steal/vandalize, because I know for a fact that that would be BS.

My second reasoning behind this would be that the baby boomer generation IS feeling like they are losing relevance This could be from many things: the rapid increase in technology, the changing world views, different slang//jargon. and whatever else.

I have half a mind to agree with Mr. Gault's views, but then you must realize then that the idiots are the ones who will eventually get the septic-tank cleaner and street sweeper jobs in the future, if those occupations aren't taken over by robots >.>

@ Wlkn: I hear where you're coming from, I feel like I have to repeatedly tell my parents I'm not huffing aerosols in the back alleys after school or whatever paranoid fantasy they come up with. Ionait (SP?) has the right of it, though; sitting them down and talking it over might just be the best course of action.

This was Lews Therin Telamon, urging you to fight prejudice with understanding and reason.