Does the game industry have a problem with unionized workers?

[Rayce Archer]

Me: City mismanagement over the past 60 years ruined Detroit, in particular a misdirected growth of housing and services in the face of a shrinking population.

You: Are you nuts? Detroit shrank since the 50s! And had bad policies!

And anyway your knowledge of the automobile industry is almost wholly wrong. The big 3 are each responsible for 70-80k employees, which is growth from the early 2000s. Toyota has produced more cars in the US than anywhere else for over a decade, more so now that about half of their Japanese production has been destroyed, but in US sales they're behind GM and Ford, in spite of those companies union labor and recent woes; in fact Toyota is in the process of a massive scaleback in expenses. Guess what Toyota employees are talking about in light of that? And BMW has a nice EU tax dodge by building parts here and assembling them overseas, but we'll see how that bears out.

As for basic English in India... Yeah. It's just not good enough. I mean I learned Spanish in school, could I get a job writing in Spanish? Hell no. I've dealt with conversational English speakers from a number of countries where English is a "state language," and all of them would require further training to write in it professionally. Competence in English by the standards of a country where it is not the primary language, and a functional business mastery are two totally different things.

None of what you have written is a convincing argument against organized labor. I'm still going to have to write you off as a conservative kneejerk panic monger, albeit one with a uniquely anti-American view of business.

Ok so when I was working for airbus 10 years ago its was a mirage that they built an R&D centre in Bangalore and some of the code the is currently in the A380 was written there. Bangalore is India's silicon valley and already houses R&D for Airbus, Bosch, Boeing, GE, GM, Google, Microsoft, Mercedes-Benz, Oracle, and Toyota. The city is home to over 10,000 dollar millionaires. India is turning out 100,000s of highly trained English speaking technical graduates every year. If you increase the supply the cost down, its simple as that. Your quite frankly racist assumption that no one India speaks English speak volumes about your narrow Amecrain view point, there is whole world out there and they have exactly them same skills available in the good old USA. India's middle class is 300 million strong and growing and Sanjeev is just as well educated as John.

Your bucket is still waterless. Your argument is essentially that India is better than America because it's okay to pay everyone shit, then you support the idea that every Indian speaks pro grade English with an article about how people are seeking to overcome India's terribly unfair caste system through English which NOT ALL OF THEM KNOW. Your second example of English is that Gandhi spoke English as a LAWYER IN ENGLAND. Fucking of course he did. If you go to college to learn a profession and you learn professional English to work in an English Speaking Country then yeah, you'll know English. If you take it in High school- no. If you learn enough to speak in English- still no.

You're clearly attached to the idea of India as an economic success story and, rather than acknowledge that India's modern economic viability has done NOTHING to restore the freedoms that existed there prior to the British Raj, and in fact has made the country in many ways LESS LIVABLE to the poor and disenfranchised, you instead harp on the idea that labor organization is evil, based on your own classist frame of reference. And I'm racist because you feel this way. Let me tell you this: there is no difference between the colonialist who suppresses a nation with force and the tycoon who suppresses it with poverty. Business is India's new England, and it's going about the same.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

Let me tell you this: there is no difference between the colonialist who suppresses a nation with force and the tycoon who suppresses it with poverty. Business is India's new England, and it's going about the same.

A company that opens a factory in another country and provides jobs with competitive wages (if the wages weren't competitive, the locals wouldn't bother working there) is 'suppressing with poverty"? That doesn't even make sense.

Also, India has been a massive success story for the last two decades, their annual GDP growth rate is one of, if not the, best in the world. Interestingly, almost all economists agree that the biggest things slowing down their growth rate is not investment from foreign companies, but an overly bureaucratic government and government corruption.

 

[Albino Boo]

Me: City mismanagement over the past 60 years ruined Detroit, in particular a misdirected growth of housing and services in the face of a shrinking population.

You: Are you nuts? Detroit shrank since the 50s! And had bad policies!

And anyway your knowledge of the automobile industry is almost wholly wrong. The big 3 are each responsible for 70-80k employees, which is growth from the early 2000s. Toyota has produced more cars in the US than anywhere else for over a decade, more so now that about half of their Japanese production has been destroyed, but in US sales they're behind GM and Ford, in spite of those companies union labor and recent woes; in fact Toyota is in the process of a massive scaleback in expenses. Guess what Toyota employees are talking about in light of that? And BMW has a nice EU tax dodge by building parts here and assembling them overseas, but we'll see how that bears out.

As for basic English in India... Yeah. It's just not good enough. I mean I learned Spanish in school, could I get a job writing in Spanish? Hell no. I've dealt with conversational English speakers from a number of countries where English is a "state language," and all of them would require further training to write in it professionally. Competence in English by the standards of a country where it is not the primary language, and a functional business mastery are two totally different things.

None of what you have written is a convincing argument against organized labor. I'm still going to have to write you off as a conservative kneejerk panic monger, albeit one with a uniquely anti-American view of business.

Ok so when I was working for airbus 10 years ago its was a mirage that they built an R&D centre in Bangalore and some of the code the is currently in the A380 was written there. Bangalore is India's silicon valley and already houses R&D for Airbus, Bosch, Boeing, GE, GM, Google, Microsoft, Mercedes-Benz, Oracle, and Toyota. The city is home to over 10,000 dollar millionaires. India is turning out 100,000s of highly trained English speaking technical graduates every year. If you increase the supply the cost down, its simple as that. Your quite frankly racist assumption that no one India speaks English speak volumes about your narrow Amecrain view point, there is whole world out there and they have exactly them same skills available in the good old USA. India's middle class is 300 million strong and growing and Sanjeev is just as well educated as John.

Your bucket is still waterless. Your argument is essentially that India is better than America because it's okay to pay everyone shit, then you support the idea that every Indian speaks pro grade English with an article about how people are seeking to overcome India's terribly unfair caste system through English which NOT ALL OF THEM KNOW. Your second example of English is that Gandhi spoke English as a LAWYER IN ENGLAND. Fucking of course he did. If you go to college to learn a profession and you learn professional English to work in an English Speaking Country then yeah, you'll know English. If you take it in High school- no. If you learn enough to speak in English- still no.

You're clearly attached to the idea of India as an economic success story and, rather than acknowledge that India's modern economic viability has done NOTHING to restore the freedoms that existed there prior to the British Raj, and in fact has made the country in many ways LESS LIVABLE to the poor and disenfranchised, you instead harp on the idea that labor organization is evil, based on your own classist frame of reference. And I'm racist because you feel this way. Let me tell you this: there is no difference between the colonialist who suppresses a nation with force and the tycoon who suppresses it with poverty. Business is India's new England, and it's going about the same.

I will this in very simple terms for you English was the ONLY language of government between 1814 and 1948 and since its has enjoyed dual status. All of the 500,000 ethnic INdians working in the Indian civil service would have passed a written exam in English and would have worked in English. English was the sole language of higher education until 1948 since then is has had dual status with Hindi but in the real world all higher technical education takes place in English. The current CEO of the Microsoft, Satya Nadella, was born and educated in India. You are just factually wrong. The reason why many call centres are in India, is BECAUSE THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN INDIA. ITS THAT SIMPLE.

Post colonial India was wedded to Gandhi vision of self sufficiency semi peasant economy as enacted by the rule of the Nehru?Gandhi family (no relation) as prime ministers and leaders of the Congress party. This however changed with the election with the election a the BJP party in the early 90s. The BJP undertook a programme of free market reform resulting in 20 year expansion of the Indian economy and the doubling of the size of the Indian middle class. This growth stalled under the returned congress party largely because of the the Prime minister and Sonja Gandhi having different policy positions. The reason why Sonia Gandhi was not Prime Minister, like her mother in law, was because before marrying Rajiv Gandhi, she was an Italian airline steward. Both Indira and Rajiv Gandhi were assassinated. This has resulted, this year, with the second BJP government in India's history. This new government received an overwhelming victory and stood on policy of greater free market reforms and deregulation. THis a graph of India growth

as can be clearly seen since the introduction of of free market reforms the average income has grown dramatically.

I strongly suggest that you know some facts before posting.