Does this sound odd to you?

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Booze Zombie

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A simple question, here we go...
Violence is simple and honest, you hit someone because you're angry or you perceive them as a threat... it's easy to understand and you know the basic reason why it all happened.
Being polite is deceitful, hiding your true intentions behind a sea of "please" and "thanks", for through fear of being "rude", you don't tell people something they're doing is bothering you.

Do you agree with this or do you disagree?
 

rokkolpo

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yes, but if we were all dick-weeds who said what they thought nothing would ever get accomplished.

the only time you can really do this is from kid to teenage.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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I can be polite without it being deceit, just like I could be violent without actually being angry (Well I'm apparently a bit of a Pacifist, but you get what I am saying).



What you say is not weird, but it isn't quite complete.
 

flying_whimsy

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I disagree, mainly because there are a myriad of reasons for violence, many of which have absolutely nothing to do with the victim. Some examples include muggings, child abuse, and war crimes.

Being polite is not deceitful is the person being polite is genuinely interested in the fair treatment and well-being of others.

I think, really, that you're asking if it's okay to be full of antipathy; in which case I advise you to get some therapy and hang out with some genuinely nice people.
 

ma55ter_fett

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Don?t they say something similar about school children? Girls prefer the psychological warfare amongst themselves and boys prefer to hit one another in the face... and then be friends.
 

hurfdurp

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You need to see The Invention of Lying. People often find kids so abrasive and forthright because they haven't learned to lie yet. I don't think you'd want a world where people were entirely candid, all of the time.
 

Palademon

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I agree. Society would be far more simple if everyone just acted like themself. Unfortunately, I'm a massive hypocrite, even with things I believe are true about myself.
 

Captain Pancake

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It's quite the paradox, to be sure. But if we want to be a part of society we have to play by their rules. That's an interesting point you've raised though.
 

Cynical skeptic

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polite, politics.

I do like how being honest is typically regarded as being a shithead, though. Very classy.
 

Durgiun

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Well, I think that that sort of lying (politeness) is fun and exciting. You have to figure out if they're sincere or manipulative assholes.
And when I'm with my friends the masks are off as are the gloves and we insult each other until we collapse from exhaustion.
 

Booze Zombie

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Cynical skeptic said:
polite, politics.

I do like how being honest is typically regarded as being a shithead, though. Very classy.
Indeed... good thing I was asking a question and not making a statement, eh?
 

Kollega

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Violence may be always straight-up and "honest" in it's intention to harm you (even when you're being attacked, not defended against), but being polite is not always deceitful. Are best friends who were toghether for years and sincerely like eachother "deceitful"? Is helping an old lady across the street just because you can help her at no expense to yourself "deceitful"? Sure, there will be people who'll say "yes" to these questions, but luckily they are few in numbers, and are probably jerks.

I will say even more: many current problems of our civilization can be attributed to chivalry being dead. So yes, this does sound odd to me. Mainly because second part as it currently stands is wrong.
 

Cynical skeptic

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Booze Zombie said:
Cynical skeptic said:
polite, politics.

I do like how being honest is typically regarded as being a shithead, though. Very classy.
Indeed... good thing I was asking a question and not making a statement, eh?
Oh, I wasn't referring directly to you. That is simply the general consensus, I've found.
 

danintexas

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Booze Zombie said:
Being polite is deceitful
IMO its not. Its just called being courteous. The world doesn't revolve around me and I realize this and treat others the way I want to be treated.
 

Booze Zombie

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Cynical skeptic said:
Oh, I wasn't referring directly to you. That is simply the general consensus, I've found.
Ah, I see.

It's okay, by the way.
I was just clarifying, just in case.
 

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Maybe fighting is the only real way to know a person. Fighting someone invokes powerful emotions. Be it of hate, of anger or even sadness, you cannot control them. Since your rage is guided by those emotions and you cannot control them it would be logical to assume that it doesn't matter for how long you know a person because ultimately, they will only ever show you their true self when they cannot hide their emotions. Giving that fighting is ultimately guided by raging, uncontrolled emotions, it truly is the only way to know a person.
 

Drakane

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yes... it some what falls under the ethical theory of social contract. We aren't nice to each other because we want to be, but in the long run it may be better for us (very shorthand generalization of the theory).
 

Last Bullet

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Eh, to a degree I'll agree with you. But if I actually like the person I don't see a need to be a dickweed to them, so I usually end up being polite. Sincerity and all that.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
No. Being polite is only deceitful if it's insincere.
My thoughts exactly. Plus, why would you wanna world were everyone is punching one another?