Does Your Videogame Comply With International Law?

Sebenko

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8373794.stm

Meanwhile, over at the BBC...

BBC said:
The group chose games, rather than films, because of their interactivity.
But we all know they really mean

BBC said:
The group chose games, rather than films, because they were an easy target.
 

Generic_Dave

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FICTION!!!! FICTION!!! FICTION!!!! Are these people morons? We're not being trained to go to war, we're having a relaxing night in of slaughter and maiming! I mean I play GTA with mad abandon, but I don't drive on the footpath and run over people! God, why should games apply international law when most countries don't! I'm looking at your America...and you Israel...and you Britain...and you you EVERY EU country that allowed extraordinary rendition flights...and that's without going outside supposed "advanced Western democracies"!!! Ye gawds!!! Go spend money and time looking at things that actually help or hinder REAL human life!
 

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Sebenko said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8373794.stm

Meanwhile, over at the BBC...

BBC said:
The group chose games, rather than films, because of their interactivity.
But we all know they really mean

BBC said:
The group chose games, rather than films, because they were an easy target.
You would think that films would be a better choice, seeing as in a game you have to think about things like your next objective. You don't sit there wondering if accidentally killing someone is a violation of law. You keep on moving so you don't get shot again. There's a reason we have so many film critics watching movies. It's easier to take them apart as they go.
 

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Malygris said:
And oh yes, wouldn't that be fun? In all honesty I think a semi-educational shooter or strategy game in which international laws are laid out and enforced would be fantastic, but most of the time when I fire up an FPS I just want to shoot some guys.
Oh yea, because having to restart for accidental friendly fire was the coolest part of COD4.

But yea I'd be all for a game that's about extreme realism. Just one, so I wouldn't necessarily have to play it. Because I'm sure I'd suck at it and never figure it out.
 

KingTiger

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TF2 violates the Geneva Convention!! The losing team surrenders and still gets shoot at!

WHERE IS THE UN!!??
 

Ben Legend

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"A new study published by two Swiss groups has found that players in videogames often have trouble complying with International Humanitarian, Human Rights and Criminal Law as it would be applied in real-world situations"....thats because its not a real life situation. Video games allow you to do things you would never everrrrrrrrrr do in real life.
 

Veylon

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The Swiss, bankers to dictators and tax evaders the world 'round, don't exactly have much credibility when it comes to international law and human rights.
 

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Despite the fact I hate karma meters, I do say it might be kind of fun to explore the idea of a modern fps with a morality system where your game is impacted every time you break international law. A fun concept to think about but I am already thinking about problems the game would have.
 

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They should have tested Swat 4, now that's a game that restricts you to following the law
 

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Wait, interantional law?
Isn't that the thing that gets broken like, all the time in Africa and Asia?
Or, you know, any time a war hapens and someone gets fed a crummy meal. Or when you shoot someone who tries to surrender.

International law always reminds me of the thing I read in history. How knights tried to get crossbows banned because they could kill knights in full plate.
International law is as much a joke as begging bullies for mercy. You look pathetic, and they laugh at your feeble efforts.
Point being, If you have a problem with how people beat you; trying beating them for a change. Stop wimping out, fight to win, etc...



Crazy swiss people. Trying to legislate morality.
 

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Malygris said:
"The incorporation of rules of IHL and IHRL in a consistent manner in video and computer games is not only possible, but would surely render the games more interesting and would create players with a more accurate perspective of what is lawful and what is not in real armed conflict situations or law enforcement operations."
First thing that came to my mind was the end of that Onion News video on Modern Warfare 3, where they mention the Wii version that comes with the authentically styled and weighted machine gun controller that you have to carry around for hours but aren't allowed to shoot without explicit orders.

Second thought was, while the average game doesn't include all international laws, does that mean the average gamer would be more likely to violate those laws in the real world (i.e. not in a videogame fantasy world, assuming that most gamers can tell the difference between the two just fine, thank you)?

Tell you what: next time I'm actually undercover trying to expose a Russian terrorist cell, you're more than free to count up how many international laws I break, ok?
 

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Izzil said:
To Swedish researchers: why so serious?
Swedish and Swiss are NOT the same thing! This is very very offensive right here. It's like calling someone French.
 

Enzeru92

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Seriously WTF Switzerland. People play games to do things that most of the time they can't do in real life. So shut up and leave gamers and games alone jeez
 

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WickedSkin said:
Izzil said:
To Swedish researchers: why so serious?
Swedish and Swiss are NOT the same thing! This is very very offensive right here. It's like calling someone French.
Whats wrong with the French?

OT: This research probably won't change anything, besides any time an army comes to fight a war it ends up violating international law in some way and doesn't often get held accountable so the games are just being realistic
 

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bloob said:
WickedSkin said:
Izzil said:
To Swedish researchers: why so serious?
Swedish and Swiss are NOT the same thing! This is very very offensive right here. It's like calling someone French.
Whats wrong with the French?

OT: This research probably won't change anything, besides any time an army comes to fight a war it ends up violating international law in some way and doesn't often get held accountable so the games are just being realistic
They are evil.