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Zeljkia the Orc

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On a Monty Haul campaign (pretty much magical and wonderous items everywhere, had something like 49 Str on a two-handed fighter) and the Paladin is starting to get annoying. He's one of the old-school players from back with D&D v1.0 (while I only got in with AD&D during middile school). I finally snap when he takes all six skill books because "kek, I'm a paladin, therefore I'm party leader, I need all the skills".

I should mention that up until this point he had been basically building as an Anti-Evil class, everything he had was specifically to do more damage to creatures with an evil alignment, he had a couple of Anti-Chaos things too, but it really wouldn't matter, I was playing as my go-to race, Orc.

He takes a swing and I'm able to eat the hit, he starts complaining to the DM that I should be taking extra damage because "all orcs are Chaotic Evil!".

I'm True Neutral, I hadn't done anything evil or good in the entire game. I should mention that he only assumed I was CE, and not once used any of his Sense spells on the party. Because he attacked someone not evil or chaotic (granted, that was about every single thing we fought in that game), he lost favor with his god. Do you know what good a Paladin can do without any of his paladin powers?

It wasn't much of a fight, all he had was his AC and a sword that barely did any damage. He was the first person I ever seen actually get mad at someone for something that happened in a game. It was kind of funny. We did get something out of it though, about 450k gold worth of magical items. Thankfully he left the group and the guy that replaced him eventually ended up sitting in the bed beside me.

In short:



[small]dont fuck with orcs that have big axes[/small]
 

Bat Vader

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Zeljkia the Orc said:
On a Monty Haul campaign (pretty much magical and wonderous items everywhere, had something like 49 Str on a two-handed fighter) and the Paladin is starting to get annoying. He's one of the old-school players from back with D&D v1.0 (while I only got in with AD&D during middile school). I finally snap when he takes all six skill books because "kek, I'm a paladin, therefore I'm party leader, I need all the skills".

I should mention that up until this point he had been basically building as an Anti-Evil class, everything he had was specifically to do more damage to creatures with an evil alignment, he had a couple of Anti-Chaos things too, but it really wouldn't matter, I was playing as my go-to race, Orc.

He takes a swing and I'm able to eat the hit, he starts complaining to the DM that I should be taking extra damage because "all orcs are Chaotic Evil!".

I'm True Neutral, I hadn't done anything evil or good in the entire game. I should mention that he only assumed I was CE, and not once used any of his Sense spells on the party. Because he attacked someone not evil or chaotic (granted, that was about every single thing we fought in that game), he lost favor with his god. Do you know what good a Paladin can do without any of his paladin powers?

It wasn't much of a fight, all he had was his AC and a sword that barely did any damage. He was the first person I ever seen actually get mad at someone for something that happened in a game. It was kind of funny. We did get something out of it though, about 450k gold worth of magical items. Thankfully he left the group and the guy that replaced him eventually ended up sitting in the bed beside me.

In short:



[small]dont fuck with orcs that have big axes[/small]
That's good the person left the group. Did you mock the person after that? If someone is going to be a complete ass they deserve to be mocked until they walk away.
 

Rebel_Raven

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Savestate scumming, resetting for optimal stuff, reading an FAQ every now and then *eyes Life is strange. Mencing fist shake.* and basically abusing AI. I don't feel bad about abusing non players. I know the computer cheats, and that it's not going to flip out on me.

I loathe PVP exactly for this mentality. I don't like the mentality much, especially in PVP because I don't have that dedicated killer instinct that'll find every last optimal move that can be done, and I don't want to put up with people with the mentality. Terrible I am not, but willing to glitch, cheat, and be so driven to win as to risk rage quitting? No.
 

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I don't. I play a game by its spirit, not to win at all costs. And, like one of the other commenters above, this is why I don't PvP. PvPers are always out to win, so you either use every last tiny advantage you can or you lose. I don't mind losing sometimes but it's certainly no fun to lose every single time, and it's also no fun to min/max every last aspect, sacrificing enjoyability and even sometimes fairness and sportsmanship in order to get that win. Therefore, no PvP.
 

MHR

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I don't hyper-tryhard to win. If something's too easy, I'll always gimp myself in some way to make it an actual challenge. No savescumming, no guides, no overpowered elements like V.A.T.S in Fallout 3, always playing what works best, or general min/maxing.

The worst I've done is play on Valve servers in Team Fortress 2. The ones most of the noobs play on. I'll just saunter in with my 4000 hours played on this game, and destroy the server. Then I'll get accused for hacking as a W+M1 pyro. 2 funny.
 

Zeljkia the Orc

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Bat Vader said:
That's good the person left the group. Did you mock the person after that? If someone is going to be a complete ass they deserve to be mocked until they walk away.
No, I'm not vindictive and I know when to stop prodding. He's one of those gamers that would be booted from a tournament for losing, it was pretty evident things were about to come to blows as well (the Sorc was already planning on pulling a Old Man Henderson on the guy due to him stealing what essentially would of made him a Magic Missile Mini-gun toting Terminator).

But now a few years later, our gaming group always refrences him when something backfires horribly.
 

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I think it was WCW Revenge on the N64 that if you just spun the control stick in a circle whenever you get pinned, you can always kick out. It was a glitch and my brother didn't know about it.
 

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i was playing a game of league of legends. their midlane had a very exotic skin with new and unique animations, joke and everything (zombie brand) it was also rare too. i asked him to do his joke so i could see it. (he says: every day im shambling) so he stood still in the lane and did his joke. needless to say our midlane squashed him.

and i also go and play on level 5 accounts sometimes for fun. its good to have a 40/0/0 game with everyone calling you a hacker
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Single player: consult a FAQ, savescum, type in a cheat, get out of an ugly scenario by reloading a checkpoint, etc.
Nyeh. Most of that was considered essential to basic survival of many games in the past... Well, not the 'faq' or 'cheat' part. But some games are nigh impossible without savescumming...
Oh, and if you by some chance feel the need to play an old sierra adventure game? (or even not so old. This still applied to king's quest 6), save. Save often.
Especially if you aren't using a guide, and don't know what's coming.
Why?

Because these games like to have checkpoints past which you can no longer return to a previous area... They then proceed to have puzzles that rely on items that can only be obtained if you do so prior to reaching the checkpoint.
In the early games especially, these checkpoints happen silently, and there is no warning.
So... If you haven't been saving like a crazy person...
You get to restart the whole game, from the beginning... >_>
 

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I was bored in AOE2 once, walled in the farms and lumber camps of my ally whilst he was fighting, Set onagers on attack ground.

Watched the massacre ensue.

And all that just because I wanted the villager high at the end.


Oh and obviously that time when I tried D&D and we were in a difficult spot
I asked the GM
Me: Can I kill the trader?
GM: That would be ridiculously stupid and would get you all hunted
Me: What about robbing him, well you know burgling the place.
GM: Your odds for succes on that are ludicrously low but go ahead and try
Me: Sure


And thus we walked off without paying for the quest item we needed and a little extra.

on another occasions of D&D I in-game shoved my mate into a very deep crater because he disagreed with keeping a magic item and wanted to return it to the owner.
 

Fractral

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When playing multiplayer CK2 with a friend the first thing I did was seduce his wife, and then spent the rest of his lifetime sleeping with her. He never caught on what was happening. I also went to war to claim his primary title several times, and had him assasinated at the end. Also seducing him the one time we ended up both having the Homosexual trait. Things got a little odd after that point.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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CrystalShadow said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Single player: consult a FAQ, savescum, type in a cheat, get out of an ugly scenario by reloading a checkpoint, etc.
Nyeh. Most of that was considered essential to basic survival of many games in the past... Well, not the 'faq' or 'cheat' part. But some games are nigh impossible without savescumming...
Oh, and if you by some chance feel the need to play an old sierra adventure game? (or even not so old. This still applied to king's quest 6), save. Save often.
Especially if you aren't using a guide, and don't know what's coming.
Why?

Because these games like to have checkpoints past which you can no longer return to a previous area... They then proceed to have puzzles that rely on items that can only be obtained if you do so prior to reaching the checkpoint.
In the early games especially, these checkpoints happen silently, and there is no warning.
So... If you haven't been saving like a crazy person...
You get to restart the whole game, from the beginning... >_>
It's all pretty tame. The closest I ever felt to 'dirty' was when cam-cording the memory tests in Okami.
 

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Dalek Caan said:
When I play a open-world game with rare items in it the very last character type I will make is known as The Collector, and I came up with the name for that before I knew GoTG was a thing.

To win I simply needed to posses all rare, unique and strange items in the game. I blew up Megaton and killed countless innocents and not so innocents to posses whatever I could get my hands on. I even destroyed the Citadel just to get a single Unique Revolver.

The Collector knows no Empathy or Remorse, there is only his Collection.
At least your character wasn't a kleptomaniac like mine. I have a bad habit of taking EVERYTHING that isn't bolted down, then turning around and selling it all. The majority of my first Fallout 3 playthrough was spent picking up every single bent tin can and empty bottle I came across. Clearing out a cave or building would take hours and five or six separate trips back to vendors. Before long I was sitting on a mountain of caps with nothing to spend it on. I had single-handedly broken the game's economy.
 

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I used the noob tube in COD. I also would camp. Two big no no's, but then again they both have weaknesses.

In another game, there's an utterly broken mechanic where you can throw smoke and it shuts down the enemy AI. All mission items are changed to that and I sometimes go entire rounds without a single shot fired.

In Sim City 4, I regularly use the cheats because the game is just so difficult. My personal favourite is the money one (obviously). It frequently gives me the room I need to get everything back in the green.
 

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I screen watch liberally in local games.

I turn your camping spot into a minefield, then camp in the entrance-way when you wise up enough to expect the mines.

I use Elixirs of Immortality and Flying Zerg Rushes in most games of Magic the Gathering.

I go straight for the orange locations in Monopoly and extort those get them before me until they give them up.

Typically I don't cheat much in single player, but I RUIN Multiplayer; especially 1v1.
 

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Cheats.....CHEATS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!
When I was younger in the old goof days, I used any kind of Cheat when I got difficulties to pass something.
On FPS..........GOD MODE BABY!!!!!! XD
 

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Well, when I play FTL or CKII or EUIV I don't really care who tries to surrender or that 'this county does not really deserve an invasion into land that isn't really de jure mine anyway' let alone that 'butchering the natives is morally wrong'. I need to expand my ship/dynasty/country. In fact I don't even always read the flavour text. I might have genocided half my realm in EUIV and I wouldn't know. It increased my stability, so suck it up, dirty peasants.
 

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Doing tons of research. I hit up the online wikis for Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 constantly, and watch skilled walkthroughs of games on youtube to learn effective techniques. I don't do it to win necessarily, but rather to take the fast route to complete mastery.

A friend of mine once said how I don't "play" games, I STUDY them.
 

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Like the OP, mine was a game of L4D2 where I was playing with some friends against the computer zombies. In one of the levels, there is an achievement for taking a garden gnome with you through the whole level and getting out. I decided to make a go for it even though its basically making the person holding it useless. We got all the way to the end and were getting overrun by multiple tanks and I decided screw these guys, me and gnome chompski are getting out of here on that chopper! I sure hope they got that achievement, but I don't think it worked that way.