Domino's France Will Not Pay Hacker Extortionists

MeChaNiZ3D

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J Tyran said:
MeChaNiZ3D said:
With no credit card information at stake I don't blame them in the slightest, and beyond that, it's not a good precedent to set paying hackers.
If companies start paying it will encourage it all the more, mind you I have to wonder does this happen and is never publicised?

Are companies ever hacked and have data stolen and quietly get issued ransom notices with warnings not to contact the authorities or inform the media? Maybe it does happen and they quietly get paid in the hope of it going away, some companies might pay in order to avoid a Sony type scandal and law suits.
Well the hackers seem to think they're in it for the money, so it makes you wonder.
 

J Tyran

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MeChaNiZ3D said:
J Tyran said:
MeChaNiZ3D said:
With no credit card information at stake I don't blame them in the slightest, and beyond that, it's not a good precedent to set paying hackers.
If companies start paying it will encourage it all the more, mind you I have to wonder does this happen and is never publicised?

Are companies ever hacked and have data stolen and quietly get issued ransom notices with warnings not to contact the authorities or inform the media? Maybe it does happen and they quietly get paid in the hope of it going away, some companies might pay in order to avoid a Sony type scandal and law suits.
Well the hackers seem to think they're in it for the money, so it makes you wonder.
With most ransom type situations like kidnap or blackmail the victims are usually threatened into silence, maybe hacking ransoms are more common than we realise and just kept quiet. Blackmail might be involved in some situations, "pay up or we publish the proof your companies price fixing, we have the whole e-mail server dump with all your communications between your supposed rivals" or more personally "would you like it if your wife found out about your affair, we have all the chatlogs and GPS/phone images so maybe you will pay us $500 to make it go away". Stuff like that, petty blackmail and ransom happens all the time and I would bet hacking and stealing of data from computers and networked devices would be one of the tools used. Maybe there is even the more revolting, "we have a copy of the folder where you keep your pictures of children" after they digitally follow the sickos on the subnet, traditionally all types of criminal will quickly adopt all kinds of new technology and sometimes even create new sub categories of crime.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
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Rex Mundi wanted €30,000 (c $40,700) or it threatened to publish customer's information on the net.
I think you mean "customers' information". Or are they only threatening to publish one guy's data?

Kameburger said:
I feel bad for the customers... Now everyone is going to know they ordered dominos "pizza." How humiliating.
Um... nobody cares that you don't like Domino's. Now go away.
Lol you corrected grammar and insulted someone randomly just as an aside. Go you! All the traits of a likable human being!

Although I am sorry because that kind of bitterness must mean you're personally connected to this story some how right? Did you have your information stolen? Did you really like their pizza? Did you steal the data and just suck at selling it?
 

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Kameburger said:
WhiteTigerShiro said:
Karloff said:
Rex Mundi wanted €30,000 (c $40,700) or it threatened to publish customer's information on the net.
I think you mean "customers' information". Or are they only threatening to publish one guy's data?

Kameburger said:
I feel bad for the customers... Now everyone is going to know they ordered dominos "pizza." How humiliating.
Um... nobody cares that you don't like Domino's. Now go away.
Lol you corrected grammar and insulted someone randomly just as an aside. Go you! All the traits of a likable human being!

Although I am sorry because that kind of bitterness must mean you're personally connected to this story some how right? Did you have your information stolen? Did you really like their pizza? Did you steal the data and just suck at selling it?
Nah, more the whole "Going into a news article about X Restaurant specifically to talk about how much I hate X's food" thing is one of my pet peeves. Doesn't matter if it's Taco Bell, McDonald's, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, or even a pizza place. If it's a nationally known chain, someone always feels obligated to talk about how much they hate their food.

And the grammar thing is because it's his job. ;P
 

Jadak

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Good for Dominos. I mean, yes, it sucks that customers will have information compromised, and yes you can complain all you'd like about needing better security in the first place, but the last thing anyone should do is validate such criminal actions as a profitable business strategy.

As long as Dominos hasn't tried to hide the breach and takes steps to prevent it happening again, sounds good enough to me. Although given that credit card information isn't involved, I can't imagine it being much more valuable than a phonebook.
 

Strazdas

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J Tyran said:
MeChaNiZ3D said:
With no credit card information at stake I don't blame them in the slightest, and beyond that, it's not a good precedent to set paying hackers.
If companies start paying it will encourage it all the more, mind you I have to wonder does this happen and is never publicised?

Are companies ever hacked and have data stolen and quietly get issued ransom notices with warnings not to contact the authorities or inform the media? Maybe it does happen and they quietly get paid in the hope of it going away, some companies might pay in order to avoid a Sony type scandal and law suits.
i know a company that paid cryptolocker and they uncrypted the files. it took a whooping 3 weeks till it returned and asked for more. as far as i heard they paid 3 times before they got smart enough.
 

Kahani

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J Tyran said:
Are companies ever hacked and have data stolen and quietly get issued ransom notices with warnings not to contact the authorities or inform the media? Maybe it does happen and they quietly get paid in the hope of it going away, some companies might pay in order to avoid a Sony type scandal and law suits.
Yes. Nokia have paid millions to hackers [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/18/nokia_paid_off_extortionist_in_2007_finnish_tv/].