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AhumbleKnight

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There is a petition aimed at MPAA attempting to gather enough signatures to be able to offer a reasonable argument with enough weight behind it. Check it out here:
http://www.dontmakemesteal.com/

So here is are my questions:
1)Do you think 'the criteria' are reasonable?
2)Do you think the MPAA will even listen, regardless of how many (for the sake of argument) million signatures they get?
3)Do you think anybody will hesitate to sign the petition considering that you, as a signatory, are at the least admitting that you think about illegally downloading.
 

Gxas

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GiantRaven said:
Pricing of TV shows is about 1/3 of movies.
Is this per epidsode? Per series? A half-hour episode? A full hour?
That was my question. I feel that, for the price of a movie, the price of a season of a TV show is reasonable.

Also, "The purchase should not be more than the price of a cinema ticket"? Are you kidding me? Twelve bucks to see a movie one time in theaters. Then another twelve to watch it whenever I want forever?

Should at least be twice the price of a cinema ticket, in my mind.
 

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GiantRaven said:
Pricing of TV shows is about 1/3 of movies.
Is this per epidsode? Per series? A half-hour episode? A full hour?
A very good point. There's quite a few rules in there that are a little bit vague.

This:

Dontmakemesteal rules said:
I can watch the movie on any device, without any differences in how the movie is presented.
Is the worst of the bunch. It effectively makes it always possible to pirate without breaking the agreement, unless you can say with a straight face that the presentation of a video on an mp3 player with crappy headphones and a postage stamp sized screen is not going to have any substantial differences with the presentation of the same film on a state of the art home theater system.

OT: See above for why I say no to number one on the OP's list. As for two and three, My answers are "no" and "yes," respectively. "No" because internet petitions never get anything done, and "yes" because this thing is linked to Facebook. Try explaining to certain employers why you agreed to something that allows for piracy if the industry doesn't do what you want them to. It's not going to end well.
 

AhumbleKnight

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GiantRaven said:
Pricing of TV shows is about 1/3 of movies.
Is this per epidsode? Per series? A half-hour episode? A full hour?
I honestly don't know. (not my petition)
I think it is per episode. I am more than happy to pay more for a TV series (per season) than for a movie. I also think that "Payments are for the content, not bandwidth" should be for the entire content, not the time it runs for.
 

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AhumbleKnight said:
I honestly don't know. (not my petition)
I think it is per episode. I am more than happy to pay more for a TV series (per season) than for a movie. I also think that "Payments are for the content, not bandwidth" should be for the entire content, not the time it runs for.
How do you judge 'content' outside of time-scale?
 

AhumbleKnight

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Gxas said:
GiantRaven said:
Pricing of TV shows is about 1/3 of movies.
Is this per epidsode? Per series? A half-hour episode? A full hour?
That was my question. I feel that, for the price of a movie, the price of a season of a TV show is reasonable.

Also, "The purchase should not be more than the price of a cinema ticket"? Are you kidding me? Twelve bucks to see a movie one time in theaters. Then another twelve to watch it whenever I want forever?

Should at least be twice the price of a cinema ticket, in my mind.
In Australia you pay upwards of $15 for a movie ticket yet to purchase when it is release costs $20-30. What if you like the movie so much you want both? that is $35-45. Is that still a fair price?

On a side note, if you could say, buy a movie ticket and get a voucher to buy the dvd when it comes out at a discount price... I think that would be awesome.
 

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Cinema tickets are priced differently in different places, so a standard price based on that is impossible.

Also, there are a lot of things that cause different release dates in different countries, most of which the MPAA (being an American organization) can do nothing about.
 

AhumbleKnight

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GiantRaven said:
AhumbleKnight said:
I honestly don't know. (not my petition)
I think it is per episode. I am more than happy to pay more for a TV series (per season) than for a movie. I also think that "Payments are for the content, not bandwidth" should be for the entire content, not the time it runs for.
How do you judge 'content' outside of time-scale?
Per episode I would think seeing as they range per tv show from 20min to 50min.
 

Gxas

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AhumbleKnight said:
Gxas said:
GiantRaven said:
Pricing of TV shows is about 1/3 of movies.
Is this per epidsode? Per series? A half-hour episode? A full hour?
That was my question. I feel that, for the price of a movie, the price of a season of a TV show is reasonable.

Also, "The purchase should not be more than the price of a cinema ticket"? Are you kidding me? Twelve bucks to see a movie one time in theaters. Then another twelve to watch it whenever I want forever?

Should at least be twice the price of a cinema ticket, in my mind.
In Australia you pay upwards of $15 for a movie ticket yet to purchase when it is release costs $20-30. What if you like the movie so much you want both? that is $35-45. Is that still a fair price?

On a side note, if you could say, buy a movie ticket and get a voucher to buy the dvd when it comes out at a discount price... I think that would be awesome.
I just feel like paying to see a movie once and then paying to see the same movie as many times as you want for the same price is unfair.

Maybe double to purchase the movie is a bit steep. Perhaps make it double originally, but, if you saw the movie in a theater and brought your stub, you could purchase it for the price of the ticket over again. So, $15 to see it in theaters. Bring your stub to the store to buy the movie, and instead of paying $30 for the DVD, you pay $15 again. The stub is then shred right there at the counter so it cannot be used again.
 

AhumbleKnight

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Gxas said:
AhumbleKnight said:
Gxas said:
GiantRaven said:
Pricing of TV shows is about 1/3 of movies.
Is this per epidsode? Per series? A half-hour episode? A full hour?
That was my question. I feel that, for the price of a movie, the price of a season of a TV show is reasonable.

Also, "The purchase should not be more than the price of a cinema ticket"? Are you kidding me? Twelve bucks to see a movie one time in theaters. Then another twelve to watch it whenever I want forever?

Should at least be twice the price of a cinema ticket, in my mind.
In Australia you pay upwards of $15 for a movie ticket yet to purchase when it is release costs $20-30. What if you like the movie so much you want both? that is $35-45. Is that still a fair price?

On a side note, if you could say, buy a movie ticket and get a voucher to buy the dvd when it comes out at a discount price... I think that would be awesome.
I just feel like paying to see a movie once and then paying to see the same movie as many times as you want for the same price is unfair.

Maybe double to purchase the movie is a bit steep. Perhaps make it double originally, but, if you saw the movie in a theater and brought your stub, you could purchase it for the price of the ticket over again. So, $15 to see it in theaters. Bring your stub to the store to buy the movie, and instead of paying $30 for the DVD, you pay $15 again. The stub is then shred right there at the counter so it cannot be used again.
My thoughts exactly. And if they don't want to trust a stub system then online purchase of movie tickets already exist, not much of a step to make it secure after that.