Don't Use the Word "Gamer"

theklng

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Scrumpmonkey said:
Well i don't have acne but i do smell like wet dog on account of being caught out in the torrential rain a 15 minute walk away from my house (fucking non functional bus system....)


What else do we call "Someone who playes games a lot"? "An interactive media fan?" ? Just becuase 'gamer' has a bit of a bad image does not me we should abandon the word wholesale. If we stop using gamer ans start using, i don't know, "Gameist" or whatever the stereotype will just move over to that word and we will look like pretencious dick-bags in the meantime. Like so;

"Well im quite the fan of Games"

"So you're a gamer?"

"No. Im an interactive media fan!"

"...."

...

[sub]"dick"[/sub]
how about "game connoisseur"? or "elegant player of games"? how about just initiate the conversation like this instead: "i play video games..."? or if you're a bad enough conversationalist to get trapped in above argument, retort with, "no, i'm a player". people will congratulate you upon your wit. okay, probably not, but they will congratulate me for making you say that.

ilovemyLunchbox said:
Aeris is a flaky bint. Hell, she was the most boring character in the game. I stand by that steadfast. I never understood the obsession with her.
why would you even bother playing that game then? it seems restricted to people who have an obsession about several universes not unlike japanese anime movies, but with the added "push a button to proceed" mechanic.

Sir John the Net Knight said:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA, YES! YOU MADE MY DAY!

truly the feeling of self importance is strong in you, since you think that yathathzee (i can never spell his name right) actually cares. the same insults you use on him seem to be describing you very well. aside from that... ahahaha... ahahhaahhaahahhahahaah
 

Neo Kojiro

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But the stereotype exists because it, for the most part, applies: people who consider themselves gamers are the greasy, socially-inept neckbeards that you very pointedly go out of the way to state you yourself are not. Hell, they wouldn't go to a bar to begin with, since they're, as previously stated, semi-shut-ins who prefer thier couch to anything else. Hell, your daily schedule paragraph points a major difference out right there: most gamers don't shower.

Incidently, i'm reminded of an american gameshow from half a decade back called 'Beat the Geeks', starring people who know thier stuff autisticly well. People like that are those who'd hold the title of gamer, with normal people being the contestants answering questions against them for hopes of money.
 

Unesh52

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Sudenly I see a entire thread somewhere on the internet with thousands of
>implyications

First off, Gamers game, Players play, and Shooters shoot. It's just logical.

I enjoy recreational video games. I also uphold a very nice job.

The Stereotypical Vidya Nerd doesn't exist anymore. Everyone and their dog enjoys video games in the Modern Era.
Yeah, well haters gonna hate.

I hope no one else has done that yet. ...I still feel like a little bit of a tool for it anyway.

OT: I think labels can be useful, but that this one in particular has become obsolete. Who the hell doesn't play video games? Even my mom plays Guitar Hero.
 

romxxii

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I have to heartily disagree. Gamer, just like film buff and NERD, are the kind of labels that truly define you. Not your occupation, God sakes, for most of us that's just something we do for the money; no, what you are is what you really like to do, and if you really love to spend hours farming for x bear asses, well congratulations, that's who you are.

Sir John the Net Knight said:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.
Wow. Your nerdrage berserk button is for a Final Fantasy character that was meant to die? In a game where they had bloody Phoenix Downs? And you've been putting up with a man who hates JRPGs? And who probably doesn't know you exist and probably won't care either way?

Calm down, take a deep breath. He's entitled to his opinion. I think he's wrong, but don't be like those morons who sent him hate mail for ripping SSBB. Unless you want to make the rest of us laugh, that is.
 

kementari

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I was honestly not sure for the first little bit whether this article was a brilliant troll or not.

The comparison to TV and books and movies doesn't work (yet). As long as there is a significant portion of the population that explicitly and intentionally NEVER partakes in playing video games, the hobby is still a niche hobby (albeit for a huge niche that gets bigger every day), and thus the label is still appropriate.

Either way, why bother being upset about a label? Maybe it's just the region I live in, but "gamer" no longer carries the stigma of "basement-dweller neckbeard" in my experience. A "gamer" is just as likely to be a football-playing Halobro as a kawaiigothgirl or a "stereotypical" gamer. All of these are extremes, minorities, residing within the niche made up of mostly normal people that we call "gamers".

TLDR, relax. Alternately, epic troll, well done.
 

The Random One

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To deny the existence of the gamer subculture is quite a bit of sociological short sightedness.

If pízza fans called themselves pizzarillas and wore pizza-themed t-shirts, then pizzarillas would be important as a group - not because pizzas are important, but because there is a group of people who believe they are.

Gamers should keep in mind that they're just a subculture, and thus no more important than punks or hippies or hipsters or even soccer moms, but to ignore its importance is just plain silly.

Enjoy your holiday.
 

darth gditch

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romxxii said:
I have to heartily disagree. Gamer, just like film buff and NERD, are the kind of labels that truly define you. Not your occupation, God sakes, for most of us that's just something we do for the money; no, what you are is what you really like to do, and if you really love to spend hours farming for x bear asses, well congratulations, that's who you are.

Sir John the Net Knight said:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.
Wow. Your nerdrage berserk button is for a Final Fantasy character that was meant to die? In a game where they had bloody Phoenix Downs? And you've been putting up with a man who hates JRPGs? And who probably doesn't know you exist and probably won't care either way?

Calm down, take a deep breath. He's entitled to his opinion. I think he's wrong, but don't be like those morons who sent him hate mail for ripping SSBB. Unless you want to make the rest of us laugh, that is.
Um, people? You're feeding the trolls here. XD


OT: I dunno. I like having the gamer label. I always saw it as a label for those who make gaming a regular part of their life rather than as symbol of sweaty manchildren.
Let me clarify though: when I saw regular part of life I mean that gaming represents a significant chunk of your entertainment and interests. Gamers follow gaming news, care about gaming as a social and/or artistic medium. *shrug.
 

Dexiro

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I use the "Gamer" label around other gamers, just as an easy way of saying "i play games a lot".
It's not something i'd want to run around shouting though xD
 

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This is an interesting point, considering video games and the culture surrounding them are so dominated by the marketing departments of development companies, hence the demographic slur.
 

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I found this to be a well written argument that addresses a problem that exists not only among gamers but among other groups who define themselves in a similar fashion. Too many people try to take refuge in group identity...and many people target others using the same method. While it may not be a huge deal to call yourself a gamer, the bias has already been implanted in others minds. To help others, and ourselves, to avoid judging based only on one facet of someone's nature. Also, I find it lol that you have to level up Aeris to use her in the dungeon before she gets run through.
 

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...You have guitar hero at the Mana Bar?

I was going to visit next time I was in Brisbane but now, you have lost my interest.
 

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darth gditch said:
romxxii said:
I have to heartily disagree. Gamer, just like film buff and NERD, are the kind of labels that truly define you. Not your occupation, God sakes, for most of us that's just something we do for the money; no, what you are is what you really like to do, and if you really love to spend hours farming for x bear asses, well congratulations, that's who you are.

Sir John the Net Knight said:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.
Wow. Your nerdrage berserk button is for a Final Fantasy character that was meant to die? In a game where they had bloody Phoenix Downs? And you've been putting up with a man who hates JRPGs? And who probably doesn't know you exist and probably won't care either way?

Calm down, take a deep breath. He's entitled to his opinion. I think he's wrong, but don't be like those morons who sent him hate mail for ripping SSBB. Unless you want to make the rest of us laugh, that is.
Um, people? You're feeding the trolls here. XD


OT: I dunno. I like having the gamer label. I always saw it as a label for those who make gaming a regular part of their life rather than as symbol of sweaty manchildren.
Let me clarify though: when I saw regular part of life I mean that gaming represents a significant chunk of your entertainment and interests. Gamers follow gaming news, care about gaming as a social and/or artistic medium. *shrug.
Hey, his post was so full of self righteous indignance that I can't help but reply. Well played I must say.

Sir John uses Troll! It's super-effective!
 

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Allow me to kiss your ass...

*Ahem*

THAAAANK YOU!! THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT YOU OH SO FEARFUL GOD YOU!!!

But seriously, it's something that has been bugging me quite a lot, and is one of the many, many reasons why many gamers (FUCK! er...) otherwise normal people are stereotyped as the manchild who smells of milk and cheetos in their mum's basement.

I take pride in playing games, but I'm not gonna shout it out at school, and I'm not gonna be feeling all whiny when people make fun of me because it's a fairly normal hobby like watching movies or reading books. Then again it doesn't help that many people don't yet accept gaming as a legitimate art form in the mass media, so you are right. This kind of thing will definitely take a while.
 

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Certainly an interesting article and I agree to an extent, mostly because I think I have done this myself. When your confronted with saying you like something with words like NERD! and GEEK! you develop a defensive ability, in my case a overpride in saying i'm a gamer. But as you pointed out it's really just a hobby, something I choose and to act otherwise is insulting to others with real problems to deal with.

I hope you make other extra punctuations like this, the fact you can expand your ideas make them so much better than your normal videos.
 

darth gditch

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romxxii said:
darth gditch said:
romxxii said:
I have to heartily disagree. Gamer, just like film buff and NERD, are the kind of labels that truly define you. Not your occupation, God sakes, for most of us that's just something we do for the money; no, what you are is what you really like to do, and if you really love to spend hours farming for x bear asses, well congratulations, that's who you are.

Sir John the Net Knight said:
You know, I've put up with the self-important, narcissistic bullshit of a one Benjamin "Yahtzee" Croshaw for quite some time now. And though that is hardly a stretch for me, as I have been absorbing the anger and prejudice of the world's asshole population for a good three decades, I can no longer stand to have Yahtzee's own brand of verbal diarrhea being funneled into my ear canal any longer.

I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.
Wow. Your nerdrage berserk button is for a Final Fantasy character that was meant to die? In a game where they had bloody Phoenix Downs? And you've been putting up with a man who hates JRPGs? And who probably doesn't know you exist and probably won't care either way?

Calm down, take a deep breath. He's entitled to his opinion. I think he's wrong, but don't be like those morons who sent him hate mail for ripping SSBB. Unless you want to make the rest of us laugh, that is.
Um, people? You're feeding the trolls here. XD


OT: I dunno. I like having the gamer label. I always saw it as a label for those who make gaming a regular part of their life rather than as symbol of sweaty manchildren.
Let me clarify though: when I saw regular part of life I mean that gaming represents a significant chunk of your entertainment and interests. Gamers follow gaming news, care about gaming as a social and/or artistic medium. *shrug.
Hey, his post was so full of self righteous indignance that I can't help but reply. Well played I must say.

Sir John uses Troll! It's super-effective!
Hahaha, agreed.
 

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
ilovemyLunchbox said:
I put up with a lot of shit from people like Yahtzee over the years. But when you call Aerith Gainsborough a "flaky bint", you have stepped over the proverbial line. I have no more patience for you, Croshaw. Take your crybaby rants that you poorly disguise as legitimate reviews and stick them up your pasty, white tuchus. You really wanna know what the definition of the stereotypical asshole gamer that gives us all a bad name? Every morning you look at one in the mirror when you wake up. It's people like you that ruin this hobby for the rest of us.

And before you accuse me of the following. No, I do not own a body pillow or any other perverted anime crap. Though I'm sure you'll claim otherwise in next week's article.
You just complained that an internet critic insulted a character you like, on an internet forum, when he was barely even talking about her, and he told you that it was a trap.

If you ask me that's way more embarrassing than having a body pillow.