it's actually so sad that i don't even have to post in a thread for you to mock me.Squilookle said:Non-stop threads raving about Metroid Prime and Splatoon, maybe? I dunnoSpecter Von Baren said:What would we get if Yoshi and B-cell performed the fusion dance together?
I would love to see some evidence of that.Marik2 said:I'm just wondering if they are planning on rebooting Quake. Arena shooters are making a comeback, cuz people are tired of COD like shooters.
Yoshi178 said:it's actually so sad that i don't even have to post in a thread for you to mock me.Squilookle said:Non-stop threads raving about Metroid Prime and Splatoon, maybe? I dunnoSpecter Von Baren said:What would we get if Yoshi and B-cell performed the fusion dance together?
are you guys really THAT obsessed with me? god damn...
Just compensating for all the time we threw you into a pit for that little bit more jump distance.Yoshi178 said:it's actually so sad that i don't even have to post in a thread for you to mock me.Squilookle said:Non-stop threads raving about Metroid Prime and Splatoon, maybe? I dunnoSpecter Von Baren said:What would we get if Yoshi and B-cell performed the fusion dance together?
are you guys really THAT obsessed with me? god damn...
Worgen said:Where does it say that in game? Cause I only remember stuff about them finding him and him being a legend that demon parents would tell their kids to scare them. So thats kinda the opposite from him being just a normal dude, like he was in the original doom.
Um, you do know that Quake Champions is a thing, right?Marik2 said:I'm just wondering if they are planning on rebooting Quake. Arena shooters are making a comeback, so it would make sense to revisit a classic. Or make more arena shooters cuz people are tired of COD like shooters.
Well, B-Cell likes Portal 2 despite a female protagonist. But that's also a game where she never speaks and is hardly ever seen, so it's easy enough to just pretend it's a guy. So your suggestion could also work here tooSquilookle said:Probably, but I'm sure the Yoshi half of the psyche could convince him that a life spent only praising one shooter is not a life worth leading, so adding another shooter where a girl is covered head to toe in armour is probably a compromise he's willing to take. ...maybe.
Been out of the gamimg loop for awhile. I've been on a bit of a binge on games I never had the chance to play. I used to casually watch playthroughs.Hawki said:Um, you do know that Quake Champions is a thing, right?Marik2 said:I'm just wondering if they are planning on rebooting Quake. Arena shooters are making a comeback, so it would make sense to revisit a classic. Or make more arena shooters cuz people are tired of COD like shooters.
Or "was" a thing, I guess.
how original of you... *rolls eyes*Meiam said:Just compensating for all the time we threw you into a pit for that little bit more jump distance.Yoshi178 said:it's actually so sad that i don't even have to post in a thread for you to mock me.Squilookle said:Non-stop threads raving about Metroid Prime and Splatoon, maybe? I dunnoSpecter Von Baren said:What would we get if Yoshi and B-cell performed the fusion dance together?
are you guys really THAT obsessed with me? god damn...
Plus that booty.
this is what happened when COD/BF fan try real FPS. gaming journalism at its finest.Dreiko said:Apparently the game's journalist who couldn't get through Cuphead's tutorial released a new embarrassing video of himself playing this game.
I wonder if this is a joke or he's really that bad but yeah, took him 10 minutes to go through a single area lol.
This might blow your mind, but people can like more than one kind of FPS at the same time. Even COD and Battlefield fans are capable of enjoying Build or Unreal Engine shooters as well, for exampleB-Cell said:this is what happened when COD/BF fan try real FPS. gaming journalism at its finest.Dreiko said:Apparently the game's journalist who couldn't get through Cuphead's tutorial released a new embarrassing video of himself playing this game.
I wonder if this is a joke or he's really that bad but yeah, took him 10 minutes to go through a single area lol.
Ah, the tried 'n tested marketing method of placing pretty people in the vicinity of the product to explain product; those people have done their homework a little there! Classic and simple, but effective enough.Chimpzy said:Good question, and one I can't answer due to my experience being to limited to know the full extent of said over-reach, if any.
What I can tell you is that game publishers don't pay for good reviews.
Or at least, in the 5 years I worked in the biz, I was never offered, nor did I ever hear of anyone outright being offered money for a positive review. I suppose they do try to influence you with goodie bags filled with merch[footnote]90% of which I usually threw out because its useless junk that would just take up space[/footnote], and carting you off on all expenses paid day trips to preview events in major cities [footnote]Which weren't as fun as you might think. Most the time you travel to and fro in one day, and while on site you spend a lot of time sitting around waiting to your job. Free time to do anything else was rare. I fondly remember the one for Hitman Absolution in Paris tho. That was the one in the luxury designer loft apartment that had the huge pair of tits on the wall. They also fed us in a posh restaurant on Montparnasse. Idiots told us to order whatever we wanted. I got the most expensive steak. Was great fucking steak. Thanks, dumbshits![/footnote]. Which I guess could be considered attempts at bribery. Or my favorite thing, sending a PR rep to the office to stand right behind while you play and lean over your shoulder to give suggestions. Were almost invariably attractive women. Everyone in the office agreed Ubisoft's was the hottest.
I feel like I'm losing track of the point.
my point is, Gaming journalists are full of casuals and mainstream gamers. and sadly these people are telling us what is good or what not. Thank goodness for youtubers like Gmanlives who are expert on video games.Squilookle said:This might blow your mind, but people can like more than one kind of FPS at the same time. Even COD and Battlefield fans are capable of enjoying Build or Unreal Engine shooters as well, for exampleB-Cell said:this is what happened when COD/BF fan try real FPS. gaming journalism at its finest.Dreiko said:Apparently the game's journalist who couldn't get through Cuphead's tutorial released a new embarrassing video of himself playing this game.
I wonder if this is a joke or he's really that bad but yeah, took him 10 minutes to go through a single area lol.
Yeah because industry professionals have no fucking idea what they're doing. But this random youtuber with a minor subscriber base knows so much more than professional critics.B-Cell said:my point is, Gaming journalists are full of casuals and mainstream gamers. and sadly these people are telling us what is good or what not. Thank goodness for youtubers like Gmanlives who are expert on video games.
Oh man the fancy dinners... In my industry they seriously started saying "no taking clients to dinner, it could be construed as bribery". Like. Are you fucking kidding me, if I seriously get awarded work because I paid for a guys dinner then its probably shit work anyway.Chimpzy said:Good question, and one I can't answer due to my experience being to limited to know the full extent of said over-reach, if any.Neurotic Void Melody said:Ah right, interesting to learn the difference between Western and Japanese oversight of press criticism. Would be curious to know whether that extends to other examples of corporate over-reach western business loves to indulge in as they exercise their "free market" tendrils, and if so, what particular cultural roots lie in how those potential differences manifested over time.Chimpzy said:snip
What I can tell you is that game publishers don't pay for good reviews.
Or at least, in the 5 years I worked in the biz, I was never offered, nor did I ever hear of anyone outright being offered money for a positive review. I suppose they do try to influence you with goodie bags filled with merch[footnote]90% of which I usually threw out because its useless junk that would just take up space[/footnote], and carting you off on all expenses paid day trips to preview events in major cities [footnote]Which weren't as fun as you might think. Most the time you travel to and fro in one day, and while on site you spend a lot of time sitting around waiting to your job. Free time to do anything else was rare. I fondly remember the one for Hitman Absolution in Paris tho. That was the one in the luxury designer loft apartment that had the huge pair of tits on the wall. They also fed us in a posh restaurant on Montparnasse. Idiots told us to order whatever we wanted. I got the most expensive steak. Was great fucking steak. Thanks, dumbshits![/footnote]. Which I guess could be considered attempts at bribery. Or my favorite thing, sending a PR rep to the office to stand right behind while you play and lean over your shoulder to give suggestions. Were almost invariably attractive women. Everyone in the office agreed Ubisoft's was the hottest.
I feel like I'm losing track of the point.
I like Gmanlives, but he's not an "expert on video games". He just works for himself, and doesn't have to worry about answering to a company nitpicking his every thought in hopes of homogenizing reviews and articles for the largest broad appeal.B-Cell said:my point is, Gaming journalists are full of casuals and mainstream gamers. and sadly these people are telling us what is good or what not. Thank goodness for youtubers like Gmanlives who are expert on video games.Squilookle said:This might blow your mind, but people can like more than one kind of FPS at the same time. Even COD and Battlefield fans are capable of enjoying Build or Unreal Engine shooters as well, for exampleB-Cell said:this is what happened when COD/BF fan try real FPS. gaming journalism at its finest.Dreiko said:Apparently the game's journalist who couldn't get through Cuphead's tutorial released a new embarrassing video of himself playing this game.
I wonder if this is a joke or he's really that bad but yeah, took him 10 minutes to go through a single area lol.
I agree with most of what you said, but because of how up its own ass gaming journalism gotten, I can't trust or take majority of them seriously. Especially the fiasco with DmC (2013) when most of them encouraged and enabled a developer to mock and harass their own target audience! And then try to spin their own narrative about fans not liking the game because of reboot Dante's hair, when it was way more complicated than that. I've never seen people in a medium abandon certain games so hard to act like certain games were never great just to impress their piers in the film industry to be taken more seriously (God of War). Gamers have this problem too, but the journalists taken to the 9th degree. The YouTube scene ain't much better and there assholes out in the field that are just as bad, or became worse in some cases.DeliveryGodNoah said:I like Gmanlives, but he's not an "expert on video games". He just works for himself, and doesn't have to worry about answering to a company nitpicking his every thought in hopes of homogenizing reviews and articles for the largest broad appeal.B-Cell said:my point is, Gaming journalists are full of casuals and mainstream gamers. and sadly these people are telling us what is good or what not. Thank goodness for youtubers like Gmanlives who are expert on video games.Squilookle said:This might blow your mind, but people can like more than one kind of FPS at the same time. Even COD and Battlefield fans are capable of enjoying Build or Unreal Engine shooters as well, for exampleB-Cell said:this is what happened when COD/BF fan try real FPS. gaming journalism at its finest.Dreiko said:Apparently the game's journalist who couldn't get through Cuphead's tutorial released a new embarrassing video of himself playing this game.
I wonder if this is a joke or he's really that bad but yeah, took him 10 minutes to go through a single area lol.
I didn't get very far into the whole gaming journalism thing, mostly because I got bored, but I did get to poke my nose a few places.
Gaming websites need to make money. They need it to keep the site running, and to pay the people working for them. So they need those workers to pump out articles, and FAST. It doesn't matter how much you played the game, are you able to make a comprehensive article about the game before everyone else?
Some sites have lessened on that, and that's good. If they want to compete with the booming (and quite frankly, crowded) youtube gaming circle, they're going to have to start allowing more freedom and, heaven forbid, opinions on the games they're making articles about. Give their writers more time with the games, and either eliminate, or lengthen deadlines.
I didn't write a lot of articles in my time, only about 30 in total, but there were quite a few where I was writing them back to back, sometimes on games as long as 50 hours, and I was expected to do it in varying amounts of time. Sometimes a whole week, sometimes a few days, and my writing became sloppy as a result. There were a couple times where I only spent 2 hours with a game because honestly, that's all I had time for (to be fair, I wasn't getting paid much, if at all, and it was a hobby for most of it).
I'm not saying there aren't bad journalist who phone it in now and then, or that there isn't those that would rather preach instead of inform, but I am saying to cut gaming journalism as a whole some slack. Not everyone involved in the field is a hack sellout as individuals. Most often it's poor direction and management that culminates in bad writing overall.