Doom switch edition is out

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Chewster said:
Well I mean, Doom came out a year and a half ago, but point taken. Still, I very much doubt that people are clamouring to buy the Switch just so they can can play a graphically downgraded Doom outside in the shining sun or whatever. Portability does not justify that price in my humble opinion.
Like I said before, it's not only portability, like in I'm going outside to play doom. The switch make gaming in short burst possible, more than the pic or other consoles. I know I'm not the only one in this situation, I hear a lot of people in my situation. I'm 38. I'm in the few first generation of gamers. We are now parents, we have jobs, house to take care of, social life. We are still gamers, we still have a passion for gaming, but lot of us just don't have time anymore. Yeah I wish I could play 5 hours in a row, but let face it, it often not possible anymore. I only have control of the tv late in the evening, and my pv is in the basement, so going there to play cut me from my family. But with the switch, I can play more often. Let take today., I play on my lunch break at the job, then when I go home I put it in the dock to play on the tv while my kids are playing with their friend outside for maybe half an hour or so before I make diner. Then in the evening I was making cookies with my kids, and they where watching tv while each batch was in the stove. So that 3 fifteen minutes that I played doom in portable mode. Then I had maybe an hour to play docked again when i put the kids to bed. Each time i take the switch, my game is exactly where I left it.

Yes I can pay less to get it on my pc, but I would never have that much time to play with it there...
 

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I mean, if it works for you then I'm happy to hear you are enjoying yourself but I just don't think this game in particular is going to be the tipping point for a lot of people to buy a Switch. It's nice to see that it is getting more third party games for people who use the Switch as their primary system, but for a lot of others, it may not be enough. If portability is something that you need, then this is ideal but, at least speaking for myself, it's not a deal maker or breaker and never really was and I think that's probably the same for a lot of gamers. And I think that charging full price for ports this old is not cool for any system, not just in this case.

Personally, I'm waiting for the next No More Heroes before I think about scooping one up but I won't be buying it because I can play it on the bus. I'll be buying it for that and the other Nintendo first party titles. Given how forgetful I am, I probably wouldn't even want to take it out of my house.
 

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Chewster said:
cathou said:
I mean, if it works for you then I'm happy to hear you are enjoying yourself but I just don't think this game in particular is going to be the tipping point for a lot of people to buy a Switch. It's nice to see that it is getting more third party games for people who use the Switch as their primary system, but for a lot of others, it may not be enough. If portability is something that you need, then this is ideal but, at least speaking for myself, it's not a deal maker or breaker and never really was and I think that's probably the same for a lot of gamers. And I think that charging full price for ports this old is not cool for any system, not just in this case.

Personally, I'm waiting for the next No More Heroes before I think about scooping one up but I won't be buying it because I can play it on the bus. I'll be buying it for that and the other Nintendo first party titles. Given how forgetful I am, I probably wouldn't even want to take it out of my house.
Travis Stikes Again will probably be a late 2018 title. it's slated for 2018 anyway.

and 2nd of all, people aren't buying the Switch JUST because we can play it on a bus. we are buying because so far, it's been a damn good system with some really great games.

from at least a 1st Party perspective, the Switch has had one of the best launch year lineups of any platform. Sure, Zelda was the only major thing in it's launch Month, but since then Nintendo has put out Mario Kart 8 in April, ARMS in June, Splatoon 2 in July, Ubisoft & Nintendo together put out Mario + Rabbids in August, Pokken Tournament DX in September, Fire Emblem Warriors and Mario Odyssey came out in October and now Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is coming out literally next Friday on the 1st of December.

Nintendo has managed to keep a slow but steady stream of release's for the Switch, having at least one major 1st party release almost every single month this year. and people can cry about the ports all they want but it doesn't change the fact that things like Mario Kart 8 DX are still major titles that help get the general public interested in buying a switch. as we've seen, 3rd Parties made smaller titles street fighter II for the switch, and as the year went on and the Switch has continued to sell well, 3rd Party support has also very slowly, but also very surely improved for Nintendo and the Switch and we can see 3rd Parties starting to gain confidence in the Switch. things like Skyrim, DOOM & FIFA 18 show this and now brand new 3rd Party game's people wouldn't even think devs would release on Switch like Wolfenstein 2 and Valkyria Chronicles 4 have started to be announced for the system.

all of my predictions about how 3rd Party support will get better for Switch, as long as the system continues to sell, are coming true. and then on top of all that 1st Party and 3rd Prty support, Nintendo has had a fuckload of Indies support which people are loving, branded the "Nindies" by Nintendo.






in a nutshell, people aren't buying Switch JUST because of it being portable, but because for a console that hasn't even been on the market for an entire year yet, it's got a damn good library.

Chewster said:
I think that charging full price for ports this old is not cool for any system, not just in this case.
as for this point, yeah the full price thing for ports of old games sucks but it's not really something you or anyone else should hold over the Switch specifically for.

just the other day when i was in the EB Games i noticed that the PS4 and Xbox One versions of Skyrim were EXACTLY the same price as a Switch Copy is. so if people are gonna have a go at the Switch for This, they should have a go at the PS4 and Xbox One as well because when it comes to the pricing of ports, all of the systems are just as bad as each other.
 

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Chewster said:
cathou said:
I mean, if it works for you then I'm happy to hear you are enjoying yourself but I just don't think this game in particular is going to be the tipping point for a lot of people to buy a Switch.
ok, i agree with you on that. i didnt see anybody claiming : oh wow, look doom is on switch, now i'll buy this thing ! ok, we agree it's not a system seller.

However, doom, Skyrim, and wolfenstein 2 even if they dont sell systems alone, help to create an environnement that might convince people that were leaning for the switch already. like, oh i would like to play mario and zelda, but i'm not that sure i want to invest in the switch for those game alone. But now that they start to get third party dev in, i can play mario and zelda, but hey, there's a bonus i can play doom, skyrim and wolfenstein 2 too. what else i will be able to play ? let's buy the thing...

and i think it work, i'm not so sure for the sales numbers, but i think doom made fairly well...
 

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Chewster said:
I think that charging full price for ports this old is not cool for any system, not just in this case.
as for this point, yeah the full price thing for ports of old games sucks but it's not really something you or anyone else should hold over the Switch specifically for.

just the other day when i was in the EB Games i noticed that the PS4 and Xbox One versions of Skyrim were EXACTLY the same price as a Switch Copy is. so if people are gonna have a go at the Switch for This, they should have a go at the PS4 and Xbox One as well because when it comes to the pricing of ports, all of the systems are just as bad as each other.
Oh the whole porting cross-gen (and off and on with PC) has been pretty laced with criticisms. GTA 5 and Diablo 3 both got their share of lambasting for the current gen version being full priced games. And Bulletstorm more recently. Part of why everything is "Remastered" and "Special Edition" now when they port/re-port it.

Your EBgames sounds kind of dodgy though. Simple Google Search "Skyrim" then "Shopping" tab, pulls up the 70 dollar nintendo switch version (the regular AAA release price, in case the currency is confusing). 20-25 dollar PC versions (for the Special Edition, the original is like, 5-10). The PS4 version at 40. And the Xbox One at 50. On the digital storefronts for PS4/Xbone they equalize at 50 (I'm guessing retail has dipped the value slightly adjusting to reduced demand because of PS4 mod restrictions). Skyrim VR for the PS4 is 80 (VR games apparently run 10 dollars over the regular games. I noticed this at the store with Gran Turismo (which isn't even a VR title, just "VR supported").
 

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and?
the picture difference is a huge issue with you why? because the picture isn't as pretty as the PS4's? guess Playstation fans should be sad too because their picture isn't as pretty on the PS4 Pro as it is on the Xbox One X's picture. and Xbox fans should be all sad too because their picture isn't as pretty as the PC version's picture.


yeah there's a difference in picture. but it isn't anywhere near as big of a deal as you guys make it out to be.
Since you're either very selective in what you decide to talk about or you only read part of what I said, I'll repeat myself:
"The graphics alone may not be a night-and-day difference, but the point is that there is a difference AND it's locked to 30 frames per second on the Switch." Nice job in completely missing the point of what I clearly was saying.

For people who don't care about the portable aspect of the Switch, Doom on other consoles is objectively superior.
 

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Mad World said:
Yoshi178 said:
and?
the picture difference is a huge issue with you why? because the picture isn't as pretty as the PS4's? guess Playstation fans should be sad too because their picture isn't as pretty on the PS4 Pro as it is on the Xbox One X's picture. and Xbox fans should be all sad too because their picture isn't as pretty as the PC version's picture.


yeah there's a difference in picture. but it isn't anywhere near as big of a deal as you guys make it out to be.
Since you're either very selective in what you decide to talk about or you only read part of what I said, I'll repeat myself:
"The graphics alone may not be a night-and-day difference, but the point is that there is a difference AND it's locked to 30 frames per second on the Switch." Nice job in completely missing the point of what I clearly was saying.

For people who don't care about the portable aspect of the Switch, Doom on other consoles is objectively superior.
I'd have to agree with that, actually, if portability is of zero concern.

That said, according to Nintendo, that's only 20% of the Switch's install base.
 

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I'd have to agree with that, actually, if portability is of zero concern.

That said, according to Nintendo, that's only 20% of the Switch's install base.
Only 20 percent care or don't care about portability?
 

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Mad World said:
altnameJag said:
I'd have to agree with that, actually, if portability is of zero concern.

That said, according to Nintendo, that's only 20% of the Switch's install base.
Only 20 percent care or don't care about portability?
Its been reported 20% use it almost mostly as a portable, 30% mostly docked, 50% as both.
 

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Seth Carter said:
Mad World said:
altnameJag said:
I'd have to agree with that, actually, if portability is of zero concern.

That said, according to Nintendo, that's only 20% of the Switch's install base.
Only 20 percent care or don't care about portability?
Its been reported 20% use it almost mostly as a portable, 30% mostly docked, 50% as both.
...I must of got those numbers crossed in my head. But yeah, most Switch users use the portable aspects of the console.
 

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Your EBgames sounds kind of dodgy though. Simple Google Search "Skyrim" then "Shopping" tab, pulls up the 70 dollar nintendo switch version (the regular AAA release price, in case the currency is confusing). 20-25 dollar PC versions (for the Special Edition, the original is like, 5-10). The PS4 version at 40. And the Xbox One at 50. On the digital storefronts for PS4/Xbone they equalize at 50 (I'm guessing retail has dipped the value slightly adjusting to reduced demand because of PS4 mod restrictions). Skyrim VR for the PS4 is 80 (VR games apparently run 10 dollars over the regular games. I noticed this at the store with Gran Turismo (which isn't even a VR title, just "VR supported").
i don't live in America. i'm talking about the Australian EB Games which is run by the same company as the american gamestop. and the store i go is the largest store and is also the flagship EB store of my country.
 

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Seth Carter said:
Your EBgames sounds kind of dodgy though. Simple Google Search "Skyrim" then "Shopping" tab, pulls up the 70 dollar nintendo switch version (the regular AAA release price, in case the currency is confusing). 20-25 dollar PC versions (for the Special Edition, the original is like, 5-10). The PS4 version at 40. And the Xbox One at 50. On the digital storefronts for PS4/Xbone they equalize at 50 (I'm guessing retail has dipped the value slightly adjusting to reduced demand because of PS4 mod restrictions). Skyrim VR for the PS4 is 80 (VR games apparently run 10 dollars over the regular games. I noticed this at the store with Gran Turismo (which isn't even a VR title, just "VR supported").
i don't live in America. i'm talking about the Australian EB Games which is run by the same company as the american gamestop. and the store i go is the largest store and is also the flagship EB store of my country.
Yeah, and I've lived in Australia, and still play with folks from there regularly. I think they said Xbox games are more expensive for some reason or another.

In Canada here though, we also have EBGames that was bought out by Gamestop.

Same set of prices though. Full AAA Price for the Switch Skyrim, 10 extra for Skyrim PSVR. Little over half that for the Xbone/PS4 Skyrim. Which is 70/80/50/50 in Canadian (which is about the same as Aus Dollar), or 60/70/40/40 in USD.

You didn't mention what the price was, just that its "all the same". Unless that Switch version is on sale, then they're not matching the standard, which would be strange for an international company. Barring some strange importing taxes occurring.
 

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Seth Carter said:
Yoshi178 said:
Seth Carter said:
Your EBgames sounds kind of dodgy though. Simple Google Search "Skyrim" then "Shopping" tab, pulls up the 70 dollar nintendo switch version (the regular AAA release price, in case the currency is confusing). 20-25 dollar PC versions (for the Special Edition, the original is like, 5-10). The PS4 version at 40. And the Xbox One at 50. On the digital storefronts for PS4/Xbone they equalize at 50 (I'm guessing retail has dipped the value slightly adjusting to reduced demand because of PS4 mod restrictions). Skyrim VR for the PS4 is 80 (VR games apparently run 10 dollars over the regular games. I noticed this at the store with Gran Turismo (which isn't even a VR title, just "VR supported").
i don't live in America. i'm talking about the Australian EB Games which is run by the same company as the american gamestop. and the store i go is the largest store and is also the flagship EB store of my country.
Yeah, and I've lived in Australia, and still play with folks from there regularly. I think they said Xbox games are more expensive for some reason or another.

In Canada here though, we also have EBGames that was bought out by Gamestop.

Same set of prices though. Full AAA Price for the Switch Skyrim, 10 extra for Skyrim PSVR. Little over half that for the Xbone/PS4 Skyrim. Which is 70/80/50/50 in Canadian (which is about the same as Aus Dollar), or 60/70/40/40 in USD.

You didn't mention what the price was, just that its "all the same". Unless that Switch version is on sale, then they're not matching the standard, which would be strange for an international company. Barring some strange importing taxes occurring.
Skyrim Switch = $80 here in Australia

https://ebgames.com.au/featured/skyrim-nintendo-switch

The Xbox One and PS4 editions of Skyrim are currently on sale for xmas at $47. but the standard RRP of them is also $80 for them though

https://ebgames.com.au/xbox-one-217288-The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim---Special-Edition-Xbox-One

https://ebgames.com.au/ps4-217224-The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim---Special-Edition-PlayStation-4