DoTA and League of Legends

dangitall

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I've played League for a while, and my friend wants me to get into DoTA. So what's the difference between the two games? And what character should I use? I'm not that good at League so I prefer a beginner-friendly ranged character.
 

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i'd just play LoL. Mainly because since dota is just a custom wc3 game theres an insane number of trolls. the most trolls you will EVER meet.

If you really want to though Drow is easy right click win hero. Same for mortred.
One thing i do love about dota is the characters moves though. some of them are just damn fun as hell to play. despite having no balance :/
 

Kunzer

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I've never played DOTA. However, I have been told by a great number of DOTA players that LoL is more user-friendly, more balanced, and generally an "easier game to play".

(obviously, I play LoL. *points at avatar*)

All that being said, I would just stick with League if I were you.

Good luck!
 

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SergeantAnt said:
i'd just play LoL. Mainly because since dota is just a custom wc3 game theres an insane number of trolls. the most trolls you will EVER meet.
The original LoL community is literally cut from the same cloth as DotA's. For all practical purposes, they are one and the same (I played DotA from its inception during Reign of Chaos, when Eul still had it).
LoL's community is every bit as dickish and bad as DotA's; even a cursory glance of Riot's forums will prove it.
 

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Whilst I much prefer being able to put bullets directly into my opponent's skull, I have a friend who assures me that LoL has much better gameplay then DoTA.
 

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Wow, I'm surprised DoTA is still running on it's own... It's been a long, LONG time since I actually got to a game of DoTA but I can still remember most of the heroes actually being fairly broken if played right. Spirit Lancer and the Naga Siren come to mind in particular.

But as far as from one game to another, they are actually quite similar. DoTA just has one super creep to farm off of (Roshan) and he only gives you the shield to revive from if you die when you kill him. Town Portals are actual items that you have to buy, there's a secret shop on each side that sells your super buff items, and a few more things here and there that I can't really remember. It's still your same basic 5v5 to kill the other guys base game though.

Honestly, give it a shot and see what ya think. It really did give me a great kick start to LoL and skill from one transfers to the other quite easily. Like Ant said, Drow is a great easy hero to go with. I'd also suggest maybe trying Enchantress due to her survivability and Skeleton King for his tankyness.
 

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Play LoL if you just want to have a fun game to screw off in.

DotA players will eviscerate you if you try to play their game with the LoL mindset.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
SergeantAnt said:
i'd just play LoL. Mainly because since dota is just a custom wc3 game theres an insane number of trolls. the most trolls you will EVER meet.
The original LoL community is literally cut from the same cloth as DotA's. For all practical purposes, they are one and the same (I played DotA from its inception during Reign of Chaos, when Eul still had it).
LoL's community is every bit as dickish and bad as DotA's; even a cursory glance of Riot's forums will prove it.
This man speaks the truth, there has never been a single MOBA that had a good community. Ever.
 

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http://forum.lol.garena.com/showthread.php?177-Differences-between-DotA-and-LOL

I still prefer HoN which is similar to DotA over LoL because I think LoL champion moves too slow. By the time you see anything happening, you're unable to move away from the skills. And deny, I can't express my love for denying enemy that which I can't do in LoL.
 

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SL33TBL1ND said:
Atmos Duality said:
SergeantAnt said:
i'd just play LoL. Mainly because since dota is just a custom wc3 game theres an insane number of trolls. the most trolls you will EVER meet.
The original LoL community is literally cut from the same cloth as DotA's. For all practical purposes, they are one and the same (I played DotA from its inception during Reign of Chaos, when Eul still had it).
LoL's community is every bit as dickish and bad as DotA's; even a cursory glance of Riot's forums will prove it.
This man speaks the truth, there has never been a single MOBA that had a good community. Ever.
I would posit that it is actually impossible for a MOBA community to not be comprised almost entirely of jerks and idiots. The difference here, I feel, is that LoL, by virtue of being f2p and not requiring warcraft 3 would likely have more idiots than DotA. Those idiots actually serve to dilute the population of jerks which can make encountering the jerks in a game a less frequent occurrence. DotA on the other hand would likely have a much slower influx of newer players (read as idiots) meaning that all those veterans who have been playing for years have had more time to fester and become even more hate-filled and anti-fun 'we must win at all costs' jerks that fill the cracks in the mortar of every MOBA.

For a comparison, DotA is like Counterstrike, with LoL being CoD.
 

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hyzaku said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Atmos Duality said:
SergeantAnt said:
i'd just play LoL. Mainly because since dota is just a custom wc3 game theres an insane number of trolls. the most trolls you will EVER meet.
The original LoL community is literally cut from the same cloth as DotA's. For all practical purposes, they are one and the same (I played DotA from its inception during Reign of Chaos, when Eul still had it).
LoL's community is every bit as dickish and bad as DotA's; even a cursory glance of Riot's forums will prove it.
This man speaks the truth, there has never been a single MOBA that had a good community. Ever.
I would posit that it is actually impossible for a MOBA community to not be comprised almost entirely of jerks and idiots. The difference here, I feel, is that LoL, by virtue of being f2p and not requiring warcraft 3 would likely have more idiots than DotA. Those idiots actually serve to dilute the population of jerks which can make encountering the jerks in a game a less frequent occurrence. DotA on the other hand would likely have a much slower influx of newer players (read as idiots) meaning that all those veterans who have been playing for years have had more time to fester and become even more hate-filled and anti-fun 'we must win at all costs' jerks that fill the cracks in the mortar of every MOBA.

For a comparison, DotA is like Counterstrike, with LoL being CoD.
Interestingly, I started playing CSS about a year back and it hasn't been too bad. But I'd still agree with your comparison, yes.
 

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What people in this thread are not considering is the fact that a good 70% of the players in LoL don't actually bother with the community at all. They nip in for a game or three, then nip out. They don't post on forums, they don't troll, and the only real time they spend looking at threads is to read the patch notes (which always have character balances).

LoL's forum community may be shit, but the forums are the hive of idiots for every game. While actually playing the game, you very rarely meet these folks. The DotA community feels a lot more elitist when playing, which ultimately is a lot more important to you than some idiots on a forum.

I play both, for the record.
 

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hyzaku said:
I would posit that it is actually impossible for a MOBA community to not be comprised almost entirely of jerks and idiots. The difference here, I feel, is that LoL, by virtue of being f2p and not requiring warcraft 3 would likely have more idiots than DotA. Those idiots actually serve to dilute the population of jerks which can make encountering the jerks in a game a less frequent occurrence. DotA on the other hand would likely have a much slower influx of newer players (read as idiots) meaning that all those veterans who have been playing for years have had more time to fester and become even more hate-filled and anti-fun 'we must win at all costs' jerks that fill the cracks in the mortar of every MOBA.

For a comparison, DotA is like Counterstrike, with LoL being CoD.
Except DoTA doesn't have a system that identifies and bans people who leave or abuse other players...

DoTA is interesting but I have no idea why you'd play it over HoN - which is pretty much the same game just better graphics.
 

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In brief, LoL is DotA for children--and everything that implies.
This. LoL is a dumped down easier version of DotA, basically. Even more so, due to DotA's balance being a bit.. eh.. Yeah.. Means it will require some more to pull of anything, even more so as the DotA servers are always laggy.
 

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I'd honestly play HoN instead of DotA. The pace of the game is much different, as is the hero pool (although around half the hero are DotA ports), but it is more reliable than DotA. DotA is an aged game, with no in-game leaver system, no stat tracking, a horrible antiquated interface, and an acidic community which at this point consists primarily of old guard players who will totally hate on you. DotA also feels incredibly sluggish compared to HoN/LoL, and B.net insures that there will be lag and such. Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, but it is aged, but in my opinion it will be better to wait for DotA 2 to get into DotA at this point and play HoN/LoL in the meantime.
 

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I only played DOTA a couple of times before LOL came out, but two of my friends are kind of pro. They will tell you (as will I) That league of legends has a much better community, stronger if slower gameplay, and better balance. But beware DOTA and HON hardcore fans are trolling to the maximum and will ALL CAPS RAGE at any indication that LOL is any way better (they see user friendliness as a bad thing.).
 

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There are a fair amount more changes in terms of what you can do and what you can't.
In league of legends there is no interaction with trees like HoN.
The community does seem a little nicer in lol, but that does not mean nice by any means.
also league of legends seems more open to new ideas, and ready to change up the game to improve it at a drop of a hat, eg Dominion and the recent healers becoming battle mages.
I would recommend LOL as after playing Dominion ITS FFIN AMAZING!!!!

Also the biggest thing about LOL is the devs want fighting against a champion to be both fun for the player as well as his opponent, and also to avoid griefing, eg blitzcranks grap does not grab team mates like dota's and HoN' version.

Edit: almost forgot a big one which is denying. Denying is when you kill your own teams army to stop the opponent from last hitting it (last hitting something gives you gold) it is not present in LoL, which I am glad as why would I want to kill my own team.
 

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psychodynamica said:
I only played DOTA a couple of times before LOL came out, but two of my friends are kind of pro. They will tell you (as will I) That league of legends has a much better community, stronger if slower gameplay, and better balance. But beware DOTA and HON hardcore fans are trolling to the maximum and will ALL CAPS RAGE at any indication that LOL is any way better (they see user friendliness as a bad thing.).
And watch out for LoL players taking any chance they can to feel superior to HoN for reasons either exaggerated or totally fabricated. LoL hardcore fans are just as bad as hardcore DotA/HoN fans and anyone who says otherwise is lying or in denial. All the communities are trash, none are worse than the others. I played DotA for a few years when I was in high school/college, and have played HoN and LoL since both were in closed beta, and this whole elitism thing each community has is one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen in the internet. Please, stop participating in pointless shit throwing at another game and the people who play it because it is not YOUR game. You are no better than HoN fans you claim are trolls.