Double Standards: Happiness vs Sadness

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4RM3D

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Oh boy, I was thinking about this a while ago and today I thought of it again. I am wondering how other people look at things. I'll start off with just the comparison to movies, to not get into the deep and heavy stuff immediately. But if the thread does progress, I might have to go there.

So, people (mostly) want happy endings to movies. When you see the protagonist struggle you also want him to succeed. You don't want the antagonist (bad guy) to win. But this is fairly basic good vs evil stuff.

Now, lets jump to a movie that isn't about good and evil and that doesn't have an antagonist. Let's take The Pursuit of Happyness [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0454921/] for example; you want the protagonist to get the job. You would feel sad at the end if he doesn't.

Next, lets look at Grave of the Fireflies [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095327/]. In this movie two children will face many hardships. I won't spoil the ending, but sufficient to say it's pretty powerful.

With the first movie you would feel happy in the end and with the second movie you would feel sad in the end.

Here comes the gist of things: How do these movies reflect on you? Because I see a flip side to what I just said about happiness and sadness. With the first movie you might reflect on your own life and feel sad, because your life didn't take that turn. While with the second movie you might feel happy, compared to the protagonist's life.

How you feel about these things?

TL;DR: Does the suffering of others give you more happiness because you realize you have it better than them (which in turn makes you forget about your own sorrows)?
 

Daft Time

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4RM3D said:
TL;DR: Does the suffering of others give you more happiness because you realize you have it better than them (which in turn makes you forget about your own sorrows)?
No; mainly because I don't feel like they've had it worse than I have. /emo

It's true though; particularly stories where the protagonists struggles to do something noble and eventually has to sacrifice himself to achieve his goals. That seems like a pretty good way to go out to me. If I want to feel happy, a "happy" ending is usually much better for this. In a more downbeat movie I can feel content, which is powerful in it's own right, if the mood of the film resonates with my own struggles and they eventually overcome these problems.

If that made any sense.
 

Thaluikhain

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Hmmm...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA

Anyho, there seems to be a thing where people will tend to expect reality to work the way movies do. So, when you have oodles of movies in which the protagonist is an appalling manchild with no redeeming features other than not being the cartoonishly evil guy, and yet people still stick up for him, he still gets to have wacky adventures and end up with the love interest...I'm not cartoonishly evil, I shouldn't have to work too hard, things should go my way. Maybe I'll have to learn the odd life lesson, but the world should be mine on a platter.

Only for some reason this isn't the case. I blame society, spefically...um...socialists and animal rights activists. Their PC police are robbing me of my right not to ever have to worry about anything.
 

Angie7F

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I personally prefer movies like Grave of the Fire Flies because it makes me realize that I just have to carry on with life.
The movie doesnt have to be as depressing as Grave of the fireflies. Something like Young Adult and The Wrestler is enough really.