Dragon Age: Inquisition Will Launch October 7

[james.sponge]

It doesn't really show much gameplay does it?

Character/city designis horrendous though, maps look appealing on the other hand, it's almost as if characters and architecture were done by usual BW team that couldn't capitalize on features given to them by tools at their disposal and maps were created by Dice or somebody else

You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.

DA combat system is pretty straightforward on PC it's your usual micro management of 4 character party, with tactical pause and skill bar to aid you however it's simple almost primitive compared to NWN2 or Drakensang. DAO was slow-paced and required some strategy to win certain fights but it's very easy to get into. DA2 combat was similar but more flashy and tedious, Orsino fight is the epitome of what is wrong with that system - long fights with bosses that cannot kill you, however you must suffer through them to see all the awesome things developers prepared which end up not being awesome at all. DA3 combat, from what I've gathered, seems to be aiming at something between DAO and Witcher 2, tactical pause and with free camera seems to be retained however you can also easily switch into TPP roll around and just perform some combo attacks with your party members acting as AI controlled supports.

 

[swiftax]

You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.

Thats kind of tricky because the combat shifted radically between the two games. In Origins it was very much like earlier games of theirs, like Kotor or Neverwinter Nights. You could pause, issue orders to your companions, abilities on a quickbar, etc. Kinda slow and boring at times if you weren't into it, but the story carried the game anyway.
In DA2 the combat was sort of similar, but much more interactive, spells having different effects or areas of effect that you could place, a lot better sound and combat animations that made it feel like there was more action, overlapping abilities with your companions to maximize the effect. The problem was that many of the side quests, and even main story quests, reused locations and battlefields, had very few differing environments, and had an annoying penchant for spawning new waves of enemies out of the ether just when you thought you'd won a fight. The story was also very differant, forgoing the globetrotting save the world epic feel of DA:O in favor of a more intimate story focusing on a smaller cast of characters over the course of 10 years. I liked it a lot, but I can understand people being put off by it.
Long story short, the combat in 2 improved some things but made new problems. I enjoy it more, but I certainly think Origins is the better game in terms of quality.

 

[Sanunes]

You know I've never played any of the dragon age's but the story and combat here intrigue me. For any of those who've played any of them, what is the combat like? I would hope it's something different than mash all the buttons but not so difficult that it would be hard to get into.

They have changed the combat in both games, in fact Origins had different combat between the PC and console versions. In Origins (for the PC) it was a lot more tactical oriented with the ability to zoom out and make decisions that way. With Dragon Age 2 the tactical camera was gone and combat sped up a great deal, but felt like most of the other over the shoulder games. In both games you could select anyone in party and play and them and switch at anytime.

Now from everything I have been reading and that one video on YouTube that was taken last summer, it looks like they are aiming for a mix of the two, keeping the speed of combat from Dragon Age 2, but adding back in the tactical combat from Dragon Age: Origins.

 

[swiftax]

It doesn't really show much gameplay does it?

Character/city designis horrendous though, maps look appealing on the other hand, it's almost as if characters and architecture were done by usual BW team that couldn't capitalize on features given to them by tools at their disposal and maps were created by Dice or somebody else

Seriously? Did you see the character models in Origins? These look incredible by comparison. At least their teeth move when they speak.

 

[Sanunes]

Which annoys me since I'm one of the few that thought DA2's story was so much more interesting. I still like Origins, DA2 reminded me of something Obsidian would write, trying to balance the morality, making everyone guilty of something to incite the mage-templar conflict, sort of like FO:New Vegas, or KotOR 2 (which, again, I hold to be much better than the original, as great as it was).
THis actually strikes me more as trying to do both at once though, and I'm not sure that's wise. Are we supposed to focus on the Mage civil war with both parties pushing their own rhetoric, or is the whole "Demons everywhere destroying the world" plot going to totally overshadow it?

I agree, I preferred the story of Dragon Age 2, I frequently say that the things I liked and disliked about Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 were completely reversed between the two games.

 

[james.sponge]

It doesn't really show much gameplay does it?

Character/city designis horrendous though, maps look appealing on the other hand, it's almost as if characters and architecture were done by usual BW team that couldn't capitalize on features given to them by tools at their disposal and maps were created by Dice or somebody else

Seriously? Did you see the character models in Origins? These look incredible by comparison. At least their teeth move when they speak.

I did and I think they looked horrible BW was never good at character design - with some ME characters being an exception - and this game just confirms it. And when you compare their designs with games like Bioshock Infinite, The Witcher 2/3, Assassin's Creed, Deus Ex Human Revolution or Dishonored it's very hard to be impressed by what they presented so far.

 

[Aggieknight]

In Mass Effect 1, they made it really clear that Cerberus are these irredeemable bastards. Then, everything in Mass Effect 2 was telling you that was just a few rogue cells and that they're really not so bad. Only a few people like Anderson and Ash/Kaiden had anything bad to say about them, if I remember correctly. Then they flip-flopped again and just made them completely evil (And significantly more militarized than before, somehow, but you needed an enemy that would shoot back, so I'm willing to over look that one). In the long run it works, but they presentation from a game-to-game basis always felt really inconsistent to me. I question how their role in 3 would have been different if people had warmed up to them more, and bought into the percieved Good Intentions.

Now...don't take this the wrong way and assume that I'm OK with the decisions that Bioware made in ME3, but here i have to disagree.

The story arc in ME3 for Cerberus was that the leadership became indoctrinated and turned around and executed it on all their people. If you read the available notes, emails, etc in the game you see the pro-human Cerberus employee's not realize what was going on until it was too late. The Illusive Man himself doesn't even turn out to be evil, he's sacrificing everything to attempt to save humans and doesn't realize how far he's fallen. And even at the very end, he thinks he's able to control them without understanding that they've been pulling his strings.

The arc for Cerberus in ME3 completely lines up with ME1 and M2 and (unlike the ending of the game) is done very well IMHO.

On topic...I want to get excited about this game, but Bioware has burned me twice in recent memory, so I'm going to wait for reviews. I hope it turns out well.

 

[StriderShinryu]

Damn I'm so excited for this. Might be the first time in a long time I actually pre-order the special collectors edition of a game.

 

[schrodinger]

Oh, how i laughed at it being called "gameplay trailer". Nice try bioware, but how about an actual gameplay trailer next, ok?
anyways, i'm getting hyped for this game with what i've seen so far, and we finally get a reveal of all the companions and eventual waifus/husbandos.

Wait, is that Cullen on the far left?
*goes to investigate*

EDIT: OH HELL YES IT IS. Yay~ my favorite crazy turned awesome templar is returning and is a potential love interest

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Called it. The Fade is broken, and demons are coming through. So glad this is the storyline they went through.

Got to love how, even as the world is falling apart, humans still find time to kill each other in wars instead of trying to work together.

Please, please, please tell me that the female voice actress is better than the male one. He sounded too generic. Or we can pick different voices for me. Or different styles of talking, like Dragon Age II.

So. Super. EXCITED!

 

[captainsavvy]

The Deluxe Edition has some pretty swish extras (imo at least). I kind of want the Halla mount...
My problem is that you can only get the PC Deluxe Edition as a download from Origin; there's no physical disc version.
At least not in the UK (not sure about elsewhere). Game have got the exlusive rights to the Deluxe Edition (again :|) and the only PC version they have is the normal one. However, you can get physical versions of the console Deluxes :/

All my saves are for the PC and there's also the wonders of modding to consider...
Alas, it appears that the Deluxe Edition and I were not meant to be :'(

 

[zerragonoss]

Okay.
At least it is being released this year.

Although I do have some things to talk about.
- This trailer did not view much about gameplay, so that doesn't look good in my mind.
- It looks ten times better then the past two games combined!
- The story, it seems a whole like "The Chosen One" on a bigger scale, while I don't mind the whole Chosen One thing, I just hope it doesn't go to crap like Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3. Also some connection from Dragon Age: Origins and 2 would be great, although I'm playing it on my PS4, so hopefully I can choose what happened before.
- The Characters ... we seem to have a lot of them, I think I saw Leliana too, hopefully the Champion and Hawke will be there too.

Still, I am excited for this and like many people, I am pleading with God to not let them screw this up!
But I'm very sceptical due to the recent traffic that EA and Bioware have gained lately

Please be good, please be good!
...
I'll pre-order it, but I'll be annoyed if it turns to be shit. D:

Is only survivor really the same as chosen one? I mean they can be sure, "your were the only one to survive because you are the chosen one." It also could just be though your one lucky bastard that found the safe spot and got the secrete powers form it, or you survived because you were the best of the others some how.

 

[swiftax]

Called it. The Fade is broken, and demons are coming through. So glad this is the storyline they went through.

Got to love how, even as the world is falling apart, humans still find time to kill each other in wars instead of trying to work together.

Please, please, please tell me that the female voice actress is better than the male one. He sounded too generic. Or we can pick different voices for me. Or different styles of talking, like Dragon Age II.

So. Super. EXCITED!

Actually, as I recall David Gaider said there would be at least 4 possible voices, 2 male and 2 female. I'm not sure if thats a choice or determined by race, and I can't find the link right now, but that might work if its true.

 

[lostlambda]

I'm looking forward to this as the only person on the internet who liked DA2 (not as much as DA1) but this one dose look good. not much on preorder bonuses but will most likely pre-order it.

 

[babinro]

Already pre-ordered.

Dragon Age is one series that has done me no wrong. Loved both DA1 & DA2 and even put in a lot of hours on the facebook game until the fail 'pay to have fun' system of those games wore me down, lol.

I'll admit that I'm less hyped about this installment than any prior version of the game. All the talk of opening up the world is not the direction I want this series to go. Hopefully the stories and characters remain focused with combat as fun as it was in DA2. *crosses fingers*

 

[tmande2nd]

I am not preordering.
I am going to however watch with interest and wait for Angry Joe, Yahtzee, and a few friends to review it.

I am trying my best not to get excited...I did that for ME3 and ended up sad.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Varric is back....my bro

I just checked the Origin store, and I had a chuckle since the only system requirements it lists are 'Windows 7 or higher'

Looking forward to it, but I'm hanging out for some gameplay videos closer to release: I wanna get a handle on how the combat works in this one.

 

[swiftax]

I'll pre-order it, but I'll be annoyed if it turns to be shit. D:

if it turns out to be shit, you'll get what you deserve.

Fixed for ya.

Sure Bioware have had a few mishaps, but i wouldn't say what they have done has been complete shit, just...Different to what people expected. For all we know this could be GOTY and Bioware could redeem themselves. And tbh, i hope they do, Dragon Age: Origins was great, Kotor years ago was glorious, and the Mass Effect games were great to.

Admittedly Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 were...different, but by no means unplayble, everyone wanted this, that and the other and got something completely different. TOR did the same but still has players going to it.

I'm not saying i have high hopes for this game, but i am willing to give it a chance. What i see so far has me really interested, If they have all this done now, October should be very interesting.

I can stand by that sentiment. Bioware are by no means glorious gods who make no flaws, but I've never played a game of theirs that was objectively bad. Whether or not you hate the ending of ME3, it is the best shooting and combat that Mass Effect has ever had, SWtOR may be a bit wasteful with it's design, but I've still played through half the character stories, a couple of which are brilliantly fun (looking at you Imp Agent). So no, despite my occasionaly complaints about Bioware, I don't think its necessarily fair to say anything they've made is total crap, especially not when we live in an age where things like "Guise of the Wolf" or "Metal Gear: Ground Zeroes" can commit much bigger sins than growing somewhat milquetoast.

Objectively bad...? As compared to what? Trying to argue "objective" in regards to a game is lazy as bloody hell. It's the same as people whining about reviewers needing to be "objective" with their reviews. Is there gameplay? Is there environments? Is there some form of interaction? Then objectively speaking, it is a game. Good or bad has no part in it, because good and bad are SUBJECTIVE.

http://www.destructoid.com/100-objective-review-final-fantasy-xiii-179178.phtml (for an example)

Frankly put, one would be a major tool to try and argue objectivity in regards to the quality of a game. If it is a program that allows users interaction within it to affect even some form of change, then by its very definition it meets every requirement of a game. Guise of the Wolf, Garry, and Earth: Twenty Sixty Shit all fall within that.

It is by opinion that those games are complete and utter, terrible shit. And it's only coincidental that reigning majority sides on the "shit" spectrum for said games, or that the factors that label it as such align as much as they do.


And coming off of Bioware's last major releases, nobody should be giving them anything until we've seen the game months afterwards.
Dragon Age 2 didn't even bother to fix the rather glaring issues of its mob-spawning antics, among other things, until months after its release, and only minimally by way of DLC people had to pay for.
Star Wars: The Old Republic is, and continues to be, a cheap Knights of the Old Republic knock-off with a scam for an item shop that is desperately trying to be Universe of Warcraft with a smidgen of Guild Wars 2's personal story thrown in (not quite as well either).

And Mass Effect 3? If we want to start talking objectivity here, then objectively, it's ending was the kind of mind-numbing tripe a elementary school student would present. Aside from the blatantly false advertising (claims of which have been supported by courts, mind you), the introduction of not just 1, but several heavily lore-altering characters who in the end have no real impact within the game anyways turns the endings into some nonsensical blob. The use of effects commonly associated with (and supported in game by) Indoctrination led to the Indoctrination Theory fans cooked up, while the sudden introduction of Star Child in what isn't the final act, but the last part of it, while providing next to no actual context or explanation thereof while discarding all commonly held themes within the game just for the sake of a blatantly bland, lazily done ending should be insulting to anyone with an IQ higher than a rock.

And let's be honest here, saying "Its the best Mass Effect has EVER SEEN" is by no means a difficult task. Shooting mechanics, especially third person, are rather simple to do when you copy them off a series that already has had great success with it (Gears of War), and only do the most minimal of alterations in order to facilitate a few special skills for everyone to use.

Okay, friend? An "objectivly bad" game is this context does not mean "a game which people may or may not enjoy". It means a game which is badly made, poorly ported, buggy, not optimized, and generally speaking unplayable! I don't care if SWtOR is a cheap knock off that doesn't grab your interest; I care if your character falls through the world every five minutes or the servers crash on the hour.

You have a right to your opinions, and to you Mass Effect 3 or SWtOR aren't good games. But from a purely technical standpoint, you can play them, and SOMEONE ELSE might find some fun in them.

Guise of the Wolf is awful because of its shoddy design and glitches. Dark Souls on PC was bad because it wasn't optimized for PC and didn't bother to improve the graphics or adapt the controls for the new platform.
So yes my friend, a game can in fact be "objectively" worse than another. I'm sorry if my word choice offends you.

 

[Roofstone]

I have pre ordered this, I like DA2 unlike most everyone else. So I am hyped hyped hyped!

ak93]I am trying so hard to come up with a joke about no one expecting a Dragon Age: Inquisition. Sadly, I can't.

Fun fact: Everybody expected the inquisition. In fact they sent a letter three months in advance so that the accused could prepare their defense.

 

[Eamar]

Call me foolish after DA2 (which I still massively enjoyed, but it's pretty much impossible to deny it suffered from being seriously rushed), but I am so, so excited for this. It's by far my most anticipated game of the year. Hell, it was by far my most anticipated game of last year before it was pushed back. I'm considering buying a console or a new computer purely to get the most out of this game. Basically, so long as Bioware keep putting out more Dragon Age, I'll lap it up.

Won't be pre-ordering though. ME3 put me off that whole business model.