Dragon Quest Creator: Western Reviewers Dislike Turn-Based Games

[zombie711]

pokemon gets high scores every time, so whats this about dislike turn based games

 

[Arisato-kun]

From personal experience I've got to agree with Horii somewhat. Maybe not an industry bias but there's a lot of people I've talked to that have refused to play Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest because "turn-based combat sucks." It's definitely a prevalent bias among gamers at least.

I'm a fan of turn-based and am currently playing DQIX which is nothing short of the best DS game I've ever played. I really hope turn-based doesn't go away. I couldn't stand an RPG market saturated with Oblivion and Fallout clones.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Nobody likes our games like they used to. *grumble grumble* Stupid Americans don't know good games when they see them. *grumble grumble* I mean, it's the same game we released twenty years ago, and they loved it then. *grumble grumble*

 

[Dorkmaster Flek]

Oh please. I'm playing Puzzle Quest 2 right now. I don't like JRPGs because of their narrative trappings and huge time commitment, not the fact that they're turn-based. I will say I enjoyed The World Ends With You precisely because it was very different from most JRPGs in terms of narrative.

 

[Judgement101]

Turn-based just takes away the surprising factor. Like if an army is attacking a town and gets flanked in an RTS then you are surprised, if you try that with a turn-based game the enemies will most likely stop a few spaces before they reach your army.

 

[Timbydude]

I really don't see any such bias in reviewers, but in the gaming population there's a definite inexplicable hatred of it.. I love turn-based games and, like this guy said, they really do offer a deeper sense of strategy than real-time games could ever hope to.

Don't believe me? Just try Lost Odyssey or Persona 3.

 

[Doug]

We'll miss turn based JRPGs once they've gone and all the RPGs we play are Fallout 3 and Oblivion clones.

I won't.

 

[Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon]

Turn based games are the best!
I spent a day living life as a turn based videogame once...
Good times, good times.

 

[Closet Superhero]

At times like these I think Japanese developers deliberately misread how Western games and gamers react to JRPGs just to deflect attention from the real problem with most JRPGs.

Inordinate amounts of grinding. When you combine an essentially simplistic turn-based battle system (basically 'attack' or 'heal' in most JRPGs, without need for spacial and temporal considerations) with gameplay that required tens of hours of grinding just to progress a linear story, what you get is a tedious experience. And the effect is multiplied if you have to keep going back and forth between 'battle' and 'field' screens.

Generally, what JRPGS need is more genuinely sophisticated battle systems with less battles.

 

[Stabby Joe]

O...k... so are we supposed to suddenly forget the last 20 years of turn based combat/strategies and JRPGs popularity?

I agree with John on this one.

 

[TWEWER]

Westerners hate turn-based combat because it sucks! Have everybody attack except for one person on potion duty. Additionally, turn-based combat lends itself to the dreaded random encounters.

 

[_Cake_]

I'm sick of it. I use to play them but I hate random battles and u need them in turn based rpgs. Breath of Death had a limit on the number of random battles in an area, that helped.

 

[Danik93]

There is only 1 game that made turn-based combat good. Heroes of Might and Magic 3!!!!!!!!!!
Turn-based combat in anything other than some RTS is something that needs to be purged from this world forever!!

 

[Nickisimo]

I'm in a weird minority here. I hate modern JRPGs....and I mean HATE in the strongest way possible and yet I love Dragon Quest. I think most of it stems from the fact that I grew up with Dragon Warriors 1-4 and loved the challenge, the exploration and the simplicity. Unlike some other franchises(such as FF) that have left their NES roots far behind, DQ has kept the formula largely the same and I love them for it. I'm really enjoying DQ9 thusfar and couldn't care less what reviewers say about it.

I'm also a huge fan of turn-based strategy games too, so maybe it's more about having the time to scratch my ass while I make complex, tactical decisions than it is about the type of game.

I swear I love my DS more than any other console since my original NES. There's been so many niche games for it that other developers won't touch with a 10-foot stick(except Atlus, God bless their little hearts).

 

[Hawgh]

I like turn-based just as much as Real-time. Disciples and Heroes of Might and Magic are possibly my favourite RTS-series.

 

[Kuilui]

I've admittedly grown tired of the standard, turn based, random battle, spend 4 hours grinding for that next boss fight, small amount of story, repeat malarky. I still love my old JRPGS *Looks at final fantasy* but newer ones just don't do it for me anymore. I just got worn out of it I suppose. Chrono Trigger did it mostly right though. Why don't more people copy that system.

 

[Swifteye]

what absolute rubbish the genre has been stale and dying for too long not enough turn based games are trying anything and its been even longer since the last game actually changed the genre

other genres have things like mass effect and dawn of war 2 which breath new life last thing i know was jrpg and good was that gun one

Hey you! I like this genre! It's a good genre! It's made me happy with the choices it has made. Those other games. They are good too! Just different! Maybe we have different intrest in what type of games are fun and reviewers are not giant calculators of data and also have certain ideals of fun based on personal prefrence?

That dude shouldn't worry as good as his games are he has that dynasty warriors stamp of being the same game to people who don't like the compenants or the main parts of it. And that's okay. Gameinformer gives a very meh review of patapon and that games is loads of fun and very enjoyable though a lot of people won't feel it. I like that dragon quest is still keeping it old school.
I don't really understand why people don't like turn based we have been doing it for a long time before real time showed up at our doorsteps? Now we are going to shove it off? Whatever happened to the challange of having to make stragies to endure and overcome fights you just can't walk away and hide behind something from?
Where is the loyalty? Are random encounters really that bad? I don't think they are.