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Squeaksx

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When I say this I speak of series with more then 50 or so episodes. One thing I've noticed is that the plot and script runs dry around the 25th episode. No anime I've encountered has had good longevity. Lets look at Bleach for one example. It might just be horrid translation, but how many times can EVERY character mutter out the word "You bastard!" I mean the characters dry out after the first major plot line and all they do now is blurt out generic lines that could come out of any character and still have the same effect. To be honest, the ONLY thing I kept watching this show was for when Ichigo would nearly die and the Hollow half-demon thing would take him over, causing him to completely rape everything in sight. The reason for this is because he appears very infrequently and as such is the only FRESH character in the show. I mean even the Bounts(SP I'm sure) feel stale within two episodes. I just think an Anime shouldn't last so long, do about fifty episodes TOPS and go onto a new series. That way you can introduce new interesting characters, different plot, and some various other semi-original ideas.

Another victim to this is the Dragon Ball series, which I think lost its flare after the Freezer battles. I mean the show never, EVER, EVER changes. I can describe the whole plot-line for every single different season. Normal moment, enemy appears, good guys get pwned, good guys train, they get pwned again, one finds special ability, five episode battle occurs, something happens, MIGHT end, might continue, if continues good guys still get pwned and have to train again. It's just fighting OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER. YuYu did the same thing, but I admit I didn't stick with that series long enough to see how it turned out, but it was a victim to the three or more episode battles.

I never have and probably never will understand why people enjoy this, all of these prolonged series tend to become the same recipe of drawn out characters, horrid script, and mundane plots. Bleach being the worst of these offenders.
 

Dealin Burgers

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I'm going to have to agree. Good shows know when they've overstayed their welcome. Quit while you're ahead and save everyone a drawn out and painful decline.
 

ThePlasmatizer

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I have to agree when they run on the quality deteriorates, another thing is there should never be filler eps to fill gaps while the manga advances forward, I think I've only ever seen one filler ep which was decent.

What they should do is with a long story they should seperate the story arcs into seasons.
 

Iceman_B

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I agree with fillers, they need to GO and GTFO. Fast!
On the other hand, Bleach is alright, it attempts to tell different story arcs and while there is some character development, I guess it still holds enough cut/paste elements for the fans.

I think DBZ was way worse, that probably came from waiting for the manga to advance.
Just don't release any anime eps then I's say.

Also, I need to catch up on Bleach =_=
 

rossatdi

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To be honest post my anime phase (something every geeky teenager will go through) I have no interest in long anime series. Stuff like Cowboy Beebop and Samurai Champloo stand up on their own happily but the thought of watching something with 50-100 episodes fills me with a certain amount of "hell no" type attitude.
 

Lord Krunk

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Squeaksx said:
Another victim to this is the Dragon Ball series, which I think lost its flare after the Freezer battles. I mean the show never, EVER, EVER changes. I can describe the whole plot-line for every single different season. Normal moment, enemy appears, good guys get pwned, good guys train, they get pwned again, one finds special ability, five episode battle occurs, something happens, MIGHT end, might continue, if continues good guys still get pwned and have to train again. It's just fighting OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER.
I would have to agree and disagree with you there. While everything you said was true, as a kid, I loved the series. However, GT just ruined the show for me.

As for Bleach, I never really got into the series. All the stories were way too simplistic and the characters were too unlikeable for me.

Finally, I would make my own contributions to drawn out anime.

Pokemon (After the arrival of Togepi), Naruto (If I try to start watching that show now, I will have to go for a year of nonstop Naruto; something that I do not want to do) and Yu-Gi-Oh! (After the end of the 2nd Season) are all good examples of drawn-out anime.
 

Syntax Error

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I'd love to see a "proper" JoJo's Bizarre Adventure anime now. The manga is still running after 20 years for cryin' out loud! Wonder if it gets classified as "drawn out"?
 

KSarty

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You haven't seen anything yet. At the point you are watching of Bleach I would say it was still faster paced and less drawn out than Naruto or DBZ (although admittedly the Bount arc is terrible), the point it is at now is absolutely horrible. Just before the beginning of the last filler arc, it was going downhill but the fight scenes were still good, now even those feel terribly slow, boring, and even poorly animated. And it seems to me that every character is getting dumber simply to prolong the fights. I still want to finish the main storyline, but it becomes more and more difficult after every episode.
 

Syntax Error

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KSarty said:
You haven't seen anything yet. At the point you are watching of Bleach I would say it was still faster paced and less drawn out than Naruto or DBZ (although admittedly the Bount arc is terrible), the point it is at now is absolutely horrible. Just before the beginning of the last filler arc, it was going downhill but the fight scenes were still good, now even those feel terribly slow, boring, and even poorly animated. And it seems to me that every character is getting dumber simply to prolong the fights. I still want to finish the main storyline, but it becomes more and more difficult after every episode.
Which is why most anime airing while the manga isn't finished yet sucks.
 

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Lord Krunk said:
Naruto (If I try to start watching that show now, I will have to go for a year of nonstop Naruto; something that I do not want to do)
I do agree that the first season of naruto is indeed long and drawn out, but I have to say that when Shipuuden came out, it really was a breath of fresh air. They made the show more mature, with more serious subjects. And i have to say that for a "children anime" they did that really good.
 

jasoncyrus

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The thing is, with Bleach and naruto a lot of the boring stuff is filler arcs, EG: The Bounto in bleach were filler, as were almost 100 (i think it was 100ish) episode of naruto before hurricane chronicles was released.

If they didnt have these fillers they would run out of manga material very very quickly. One anime episode encompasses 2-3 manga editions.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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...suck.

Nah, not true but the only one worth watching is One Piece, consistantly amusing and creative, unlike DBZ... and it doesn't recap every other episode like Naruto. Personally I only watch Short Run Anime, or Psuedo Long Run Anime like Slayers, with 3 Seperately plotted seasons with only characters returning.
 

Rankao

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3 seasons is a nice rule of thumb for any anime IMO.
I do watch shows like Naruto but I always skip the filler arcs and stick to the stuff from the manga.
 

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I think one of the most drawn out animes is Inuyasha, I mean it's been going on for years(not recently since I heard they're canceling the show)and they were still going after the same main bad guy throughout the entire series, although I didn't stick around to watch it that far I kinda lost interest in it.
 

ZantetsukenQ

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A lot of anime has the tendancy to do this. I stopped watching Bleach during the Bounto arc and carried on watching after that till the fillers started again with the new captain. Naruto fillers were also the suck. The manga for both series' have been rather good though.

I have a huge love affair with Rurouni Kenshin (manga) and have always been intrigued to watch the anime series (I've already decided that I am buying the OVA boxset). I am however afraid that there may be a mutitude of fillers since there are over 100 episodes.

SyntaxError. If I recall correctly the anime for Full Metal Alchemist was done a lot earlier than the manga, since the manga is still being released, and it turned out great. 51 episodes with only 1 real filler, which was a great episode anyway. But otherwise I agree, its a bit dumb to start an anime of a new manga series.

Soul Eater is pretty amazing so far and I hope it stays that way. Since the manga of that is still coming out I think that its gonna have some filler after this current story arc, which sucks :s
 

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rossatdi said:
To be honest post my anime phase (something every geeky teenager will go through) I have no interest in long anime series. Stuff like Cowboy Beebop and Samurai Champloo stand up on their own happily but the thought of watching something with 50-100 episodes fills me with a certain amount of "hell no" type attitude.
Agreed. I really enjoy Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Escaflowne, and other 24/25 Episode animes (Heck, I even liked the first season of Ah! My Goddess!), but the long running ones just seem so darned 'the same' over and over again.

Stories are SUPPOSED to have an ending, you know? SOME type of conclusion. Whether it's a happy and feel good ending, or a sad ending, or a piss you off ending...it needs an ending.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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ZantetsukenQ said:
SyntaxError. If I recall correctly the anime for Full Metal Alchemist was done a lot earlier than the manga, since the manga is still being released, and it turned out great. 51 episodes with only 1 real filler, which was a great episode anyway. But otherwise I agree, its a bit dumb to start an anime of a new manga series.
Stupid, stupid Episode 4, and the cliffhanger ending, and the movie.
Also Trigun also turned out pretty well, the Manga for that is still being released. It's the same story with Evangelion, as the Manga for that is still being released.