Drinking problem!

[aba1]

Ok so there has always been a issue with kids to young for alchohal getting into drinking partys and what not at a very young age this has been a issue for a long time esspecially when they get there licence and drinking and driving becomes a issue.

I always found it interesting that in many other countries there isn't really a age limit on drinking and they dont have nearly the issue we do here in Canada and the US so why doesn't the goverment just allow alcohol to be treated like any other drink so that it is less of a deal.

I think that if alchahol wasnt restricted to adults kids wouldnt feel it was sort of a forbidden fruit and suddently the appeal wouldn't be there. I remember a few years back when everyone was turning 19 everyone wanted to get plastered cause it was legal now but its that sorta thing that should be avoided and if beer and other alchohal was always availible openly I really feel that people would really care less about it and it would suddently become more of just another drink.

what do you guys think

 

[Rockchimp69]

I think that it's no one's business except the parents. And I don't even think they should be able to control someone in their teen years.

You're supposed to be crazy at this age, the parents should just try to help you not overdo it.

 

[MercurySteam]

Allow me to express my thoughts in song:

alchohal

It's spelt alcohol.

 

[aba1]

I think that it's no one's business except the parents. And I don't even think they should be able to control someone in their teen years.

You're supposed to be crazy at this age, the parents should just try to help you not overdo it.

I dunno about that if a kid did some stupid shit around me and tried to tell me hes at a age where hes "supposed to be crazy" I smack him n tell him to get shit together and grow the hell up I didn't feel the need to make a ass of myself at his age and niether should he

 

[Trasken]

Meh i started drinking real alcohol (vodka rum etc) at age 14 and i am far from an alcoholic at age 22, so i guess it's mostly the isue of self-control rather than wether or not minors should drink

 

[NLS]

21 is the legal age in the US? Could perhaps help by lowering it a bit, yes. Here in Norway it's 18 for beer and wine, and 20 for stronger stuff. I've been to other countries where the legal drinking age is 16, and (for people that are under 18) it actually seems better.

And yes, it's written alcohol, not alchohal or alchahol

 

[Rockchimp69]

I think that it's no one's business except the parents. And I don't even think they should be able to control someone in their teen years.

You're supposed to be crazy at this age, the parents should just try to help you not overdo it.

I dunno about that if a kid did some stupid shit around me and tried to tell me hes at a age where hes "supposed to be crazy" I smack him n tell him to get shit together and grow the hell up I didn't feel the need to make a ass of myself at his age and niether should he

Really? Because it sounds like growing up is about becoming so obsessed with the consequences of your actions that you end up not HAVING ANY ACTIONS.

Growing sounds fucking terrible.

Also if people who make mistakes are forced to live by smarter people then where's the natural selection?

 

[Wuggy]

Holy crap OP. Punctuation, grammar. I barely understood a word. Were you drunk while writing this?

Where I live the age limit for alcohol is 18. I think the limit here is fine, although I started drinking at around 14 or 15. At the time I was sort of wild, made lots of mistakes. But now being an adult, I can be sensible when it comes to drinking. I don't have to do those teenager mistakes anymore and I can focus on things that are actually important.

 

[Sun Flash]

Here in Britain we have a big problem with under-age/young binge drinkers. Admittedly, where I'm from at least, it's by no means difficult to get it (hell, out of all the +18 people I know, as long a you've got the money to buy it, they'd happily go in and get it for you). So, officials (Government people, shop keepers etc) take it very seriously, the average Joe, not so much.

Maybe it would be better to look at the drinking culture in your country? From what I see (mainly through Tv and movies), middle America (and I presume middle Canada?)has a very Christian, keep the kids wholesome in relation to drink/sex/drugs attitude.

Eh. I've kinda lost track of what I was saying, but basically, this might be a phenomenon which will weed itself out in a few generations, or perhaps you should look into changing the attitude of the adults to change the attitude of he kids.

 

[teqrevisited]

The problem is that it is different for every single person.

I've attended my local beer festival since I was around 13 or 14, having the odd pint or two and just generally enjoying the atmosphere. I remember being told how, just incase any officials would happen to look over this way while I was holding said pint, to conceal it. Not as an act of defiance, because I genuinely enjoyed the taste of it. That and they knew I wasn't going to start walking into things etc.

Fast forward to the present and I'm generally not bothered. I'm not going out of my way to drink and usually I wont have any for weeks at a time.

 

[BabyRaptor]

Complete seriousness, no trolling at all...If you can't spell it, you shouldn't be drinking it. If you can't be assed to know how it's spelled, you don't know enough to be an educated drinker.

 

[Aphex Demon]

Me and my mates get hammered most weekends (If not all) because were 18 and it's legal over here (UK) to drink in pubs and to clubs etc.

It's great fun!

 

[yookiwooki]

I'm 20 and living in the USA. Everyone I know started drinking at 18, which seems like the natural age to start for me. At college, I drink every weekend. Over the summer I drink every 2 weeks or so, but I'm kinda taking a break recently.

I have noticed that whenever I drink with my friends, there is this mentality that we have to drink as much as possible. If we don't finish everything that we have bought that night, then there is a great risk that it will be discovered by parents or cops. You can't just hold onto it for weeks without running this risk.

I expect that I'll drink a lot less when I turn 21, simply because I'll feel like I don't have to guzzle down all I can while the authorities aren't looking. Unfortunately, I expect that this lifestyle puts my friends and I at a great risk for alcoholism.

 

[MrLlamaLlama]

IT's less about the age you're introduced to alchohol but the way you're intoroduced to it. hink about it, in Spain, France, Italy, etc, alot of families sit and have large meals and drink wine, and in a lot of the cases kids not 'old enough' to be drinking are there, but they've been introduced to it as a social thing and with a healthy respect. If you like in a council house in daggenham and you're 15 and your family are on 6 crates of stella a day and you're on the odd one... it's 2 sides of the same coin. Very similar, very different.

Now I'm neither one nor the other of these. Yep, when i was a kid i snuck those tiny little bottles of vodka out of the cabinet a couple weekends, got 'drunk' with my friends and filled them back up with water, but that was years ago, and to be honest nowadays I don't drink nearly as much (regularly) as other people my age. I'm brewing my own cider and I've got 40 litres of the stuff., but I don't do it to get pissed on the cheap, just a hobby with a reward I can share with friends and family.

I have no idea where I'm going with this. Probably that kids learn most of their morals from their parents, one way or another. If a kid has generally good parents, yeah he'll screw up now and then, but he'll always be fine. Of course there are exceptions, but... yeah...exceptions.


/inconclusive

 

[HardkorSB]

I always found it interesting that in many other countries there isn't really a age limit on drinking and they dont have nearly the issue we do here in Canada and the US

Like where?

why doesn't the goverment just allow alcohol to be treated like any other drink so that it is less of a deal.

Because any other drink doesn't have the effects that alcohol has.

I think that if alchahol wasnt restricted to adults kids wouldnt feel it was sort of a forbidden fruit and suddently the appeal wouldn't be there.

I think that if there weren't any age restrictions for alcohol, you would see drunken 4-year olds everywhere. It's not about the appeal of "the forbidden fruit", it's what it does to you that attracts people to it.

 

[Fetzenfisch]

well there are enough medical reasons for an agelimit for drugs. We got it at 16 for beer and wine and 18 for hard stuff. And this is a pretty good standart.
THe teens can get their beers, get pished but wont kill themselves with it. But of course the allowed stuff isnt good enough and you regurlary see the 14 year old with a bottle of wodka or jaegermeister. WEll i cant really say something against it, as long as you dont behave extremely idiotic and have some good friends with you, its ok once in a while.
We started at 13 so i am not to blame anyone. It takes some time to learn ones limits. and that throwing up isnt a sign for a successful night.
Beer and wine play a significant role in german life. And i have to admit that there are maybe about 2 days a week i dont drink at least a little.But well , there is a differnece between getting drunkand having 2 beers after work with friends

 

[exessmirror]

lets all go Italy style and go to 14 for drinking

 

[Baneat]

I think that if there weren't any age restrictions for alcohol, you would see drunken 4-year olds everywhere. It's not about the appeal of "the forbidden fruit", it's what it does to you that attracts people to it.

Not if you consider places that have no age restriction (Such as China)

- But really, it should be around 14-15 legally, then parent's permission to 18, then legal without consent.

 

[Dizeazedkiller]

I don't know how reliable this information is, but whatever. I've been told that through your teenage years your brain is still developing so if you have an excess of alcohol (a bottle of vodka in 15 mins, not something minor like a couple of drinks over a few hours) you can disrupt that development and come out not so smart from it.

Which isn't to say i agree with alcohol being limited for my age group. I'm sure if the limit was taken away less teens would feel like they NEEDED grog. Even as it is I've noticed that most of the people hitting the bottle early and hard are the fuckwits, and the more intelligent people held off until around fifteen. I'm not saying that everyone who drinks early is stupid, this was just the situation with the people at my school in my grade.

The fact that all those early drinkers are somewhat FUCKING RETARDED leads me to believe that the whole brain development thing is true.

 

[Lunar Templar]

'no, I've pretty much got it figured out'
^first thought i had from reading the title

but my 2cents OT:

i think 'its forbidden, so lets do it' is a lot of why there's so much under aged drinking, but then, could also be more a tune to 'he's doing it, he's cool, i wanna be cool, its miller time', personally, not a fan of the stuff, never have been, so its been really easy for me to stay dry (other promises not with standing)