DRM is working your just thinking the wrong way.

[ionveau]

If you ever thought DRM was designed to stop torrent piracy your dead wrong, yes it dose stop piracy but not the torrent style mass distribution style, ok imagine this,

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen, it is very foolish to say that if you didnt have DRM you wouldent give it to your friends to share, software laws clearly states that for every piece of software you buy you may install it on ONE computer anymore is just like stealing it from the store.

DRM also helps cut out users from the online game and slowly overall lower the bandwidth usage of the game. the code you get from the game must be entered into the installer to allow you to play online, i see no reason why the code cannot custom burned into the CD, i assume they want the price of production as low as possible and it helps people lose their CD keys in the end.

Overall DRM is working and very useful to the company's and i see no reason why would take it out, the removing DRM would be the worst think they could ever come up with, Ubsoft came very close to denting torrent piracy but the game was cracked only after 2 months and the players didnt understand that they where fighting torrent piracy rather then non torrent piracy and started to complain for no good reason.

StarCraft 2 also has a very good system of stoping torrent piracy even though the game can be cracked and single player can be played they did a very good job of removing LAN support, this overall destroyed any replay value for pirates(even though battlenet sucks compared to garena)

In the end stop hating on DRM even though its targeting you rather then torrent pirates its needed and complaining about it just shows how greedy we are.

 

[manythings]

I don't know about you but I've been given games buy friends THEN bought my own copy. That's one of the functions of friends they can direct to things worth money.

DRM does a job and that's fine so long as it doesn't interfere with me playing my game and, wouldn't you know it, DRM causes an awful lot of problems. When the Dev makes me pay to play their game AND makes it so I can't play it properly then I will seriously start considering the piracy option.

If I had the money I would buy the Witcher 2 from Good Old Games to encourage more releases of DRM free games.

 

[MercurySteam]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

 

[ionveau]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

Your right but the thing is most people dont do that and thats why DRM is needed and useful

 

[tjs09]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

Then they eventually get sick of paying full price and turn to piracy, it's a neverending circle of tragedy. Game devs never make any money and try harder to stop piracy, turning more disgruntled customers toward piracy
TL;DR: By trying to stop piracy, they only help it

 

[ionveau]

They did a god job brainwashing you but then again, there was probably not much to work with anyway...

Trust me the DRM is needed or i would just give my friend all my games and play it on my computer at the same time.

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

DRM hurts the people who actually buy the game instead of the pirates, why must i play and deal with a badly design DRM system which requires me to have internet connection all the time. I mean i bought the game just let me activated once and let me play my goddam game.

 

[KilloZapit]

Personally the thing that bugs me about DRM is all of the legal protection it gets. Your basically legally defending a outdated and dieing distribution and production model. Rather then allowing the market and the way things are done to adjust to technology, your limiting what people can do with technology to defend a dieing market. I mean, donations, merchandising, paying for online services, there are a whole lot of alternate ways to fund and make a profit on games that don't involve locking the game down with DRM and fiddly copyright bullcrap. Yeah maybe people won't be able to blow millions of dollars to fund bad sequels anymore, but I fail to see the downside.

 

[Cry Wolf]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

Your right but the thing is most people dont do that and thats why DRM is needed and useful

No, most people do. Every gamer I know does it. Hell, I do it with games I bought to avoid intrusive DRM and non-functional DRM - like Mass Effect's broken authentication system which wouldn't let me play my own game. In the end, it only makes me crack the DRM to play my own games.

Also, when a friend comes into school with a bunch of pirated games, I really do have to think hard on whether or not I take the games. I either get treated like a criminal and cough up a hundred dollars or I become a criminal and get treated like a citizen. It's getting harder and harder to do the right thing when I'm being contantly wronged for it.

 

[Pearwood]

StarCraft 2 also has a very good system of stoping torrent piracy even though the game can be cracked and single player can be played they did a very good job of removing LAN support, this overall destroyed any replay value for pirates(even though battlenet sucks compared to garena)

I have to echo what Angerwing has just said. LAN support was pretty much responsible for Starcraft 1 being the success it was. Saying removing it was a good idea is stupid and Blizzard quite rightly got a lot of flak for that. And not having replay value doesn't stop pirates, they don't care if they pirate the game and play it once then forget it or if they pirate it and play it every day.

As for your first example of the child sharing the computer game - do you remember Starcraft 1's spawn install system? You could do that, I think it gave access to multiplayer but not single player so you could share and play the game with all of your friends if you wanted. And we all know what a huge financial disaster Starcraft 1 was. Honestly, if you weren't coming up for 400 posts I'd think you were just out to spout bullshit until you got yourself banned.

 

[ionveau]

StarCraft 2 also has a very good system of stoping torrent piracy even though the game can be cracked and single player can be played they did a very good job of removing LAN support, this overall destroyed any replay value for pirates(even though battlenet sucks compared to garena)

I have to echo what Angerwing has just said. LAN support was pretty much responsible for Starcraft 1 being the success it was. Saying removing it was a good idea is stupid and Blizzard quite rightly got a lot of flak for that. And not having replay value doesn't stop pirates, they don't care if they pirate the game and play it once then forget it or if they pirate it and play it every day.

As for your first example of the child sharing the computer game - do you remember Starcraft 1's spawn install system? You could do that, I think it gave access to multiplayer but not single player so you could share and play the game with all of your friends if you wanted. And we all know what a huge financial disaster Starcraft 1 was. Honestly, if you weren't coming up for 400 posts I'd think you were just out to spout bullshit until you got yourself banned.

So your telling me if i post something thats not generic but rather something new or post a new view im ether a troll or seeking attention?

 

[TheComedown]

In the end stop hating on DRM even though its targeting you rather then torrent pirates its needed and complaining about it just shows how greedy we are.

What platforms do you own and how much do you use each?

 

[ionveau]

In the end stop hating on DRM even though its targeting you rather then torrent pirates its needed and complaining about it just shows how greedy we are.

What platforms do you own and how much do you use each?

i have a PC DS wii
played the wii for around 20 hours over a year
played DS for 3 weeks now its gathering dust
played PC games all day every day

 

[TheComedown]

In the end stop hating on DRM even though its targeting you rather then torrent pirates its needed and complaining about it just shows how greedy we are.

What platforms do you own and how much do you use each?

i have a PC DS wii
played the wii for around 20 hours over a year
played DS for 3 weeks now its gathering dust
played PC games all day every day

Now, how many friends, IRL friends do you have that also have adequate gaming PCs and share your exact taste in games?

 

[ionveau]

In the end stop hating on DRM even though its targeting you rather then torrent pirates its needed and complaining about it just shows how greedy we are.

What platforms do you own and how much do you use each?

i have a PC DS wii
played the wii for around 20 hours over a year
played DS for 3 weeks now its gathering dust
played PC games all day every day

Now, how many friends, IRL friends do you have that also have adequate gaming PCs and share your exact taste in games?

around 10?

 

[Dogstile]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

Your right but the thing is most people dont do that and thats why DRM is needed and useful

Ok, first of, grammar. Please use it, you're killing my eyes. I mean this in the nicest way possible, because nobody will take you seriously unless you use it.

Secondly, its actually quite normal for anyone the age of 12 and above to know how to install a crack, considering its downloading a file and replacing the executable on a regular day.

Wanna play online but you don't have a key? Private servers. They're actually easy to find too.

 

[TheComedown]

around 10?

Your exact taste in gaming? Really, ok, if that's what floats your boat.

Here is the deal, If 1 of you buys every game every time and you all end up with it, whats that, 10 copies for the price of one, as opposed to a torrent which depending on the game can have millions to one. Not to mention even amongst a group of friends tastes and computers will vary, so while you may buy one game, your friend next door won't give a shit, you think I wanted to flog a copy when my mate bought Civ5? Fuck no, not my thing. In the end the numbers don't add up.

You really think publishers are more concerned about stopping the 10 to 1 as opposed to the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of torrent users?

Also gotta say, I'm not buying any of this. A PC gamer that thinks removing lan options from a game is a good idea? I call bullshit. If that's not bullshit, then you really don't have 10 PC gaming friends do you?

 

[ionveau]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

Your right but the thing is most people dont do that and thats why DRM is needed and useful

Ok, first of, grammar. Please use it, you're killing my eyes. I mean this in the nicest way possible, because nobody will take you seriously unless you use it.

Secondly, its actually quite normal for anyone the age of 12 and above to know how to install a crack, considering its downloading a file and replacing the executable on a regular day.

Wanna play online but you don't have a key? Private servers. They're actually easy to find too.

Is it just me or do most people that have nothing to say then a simple template of an argument start of by complaining about grammar?

 

[ionveau]

around 10?

Your exact taste in gaming? Really, ok, if that's what floats your boat.

Here is the deal, If 1 of you buys every game every time and you all end up with it, whats that, 10 copies for the price of one, as opposed to a torrent which depending on the game can have millions to one. Not to mention even amongst a group of friends tastes and computers will vary, so while you may buy one game, your friend next door won't give a shit, you think I wanted to flog a copy when my mate bought Civ5? Fuck no, not my thing. In the end the numbers don't add up.

You really think publishers are more concerned about stopping the 10 to 1 as opposed to the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of torrent users?

Also gotta say, I'm not buying any of this. A PC gamer that thinks removing lan options from a game is a good idea? I call bullshit. If that's not bullshit, then you really don't have 10 PC gaming friends do you?

I would like to have lan on starcraft im just saying what DRM is used for not my own opinion, Why would i fight for something that overall is damaging to myself?

 

[Dogstile]

Ok lets think about 2 kids, 1 has a game with 0 DRM he gives it to his friend the friend installs it on his computer and give's it back, you see piracy just happened, thank to today's DRM this cannot happen

If the kid was smart enough, he would kill his internet connection or block the program his firewall and then download a crack for the game and give it back to his friend. It happens every day.

DRM comes in many shapes and sizes, and while it may make games a little bit more hard to pirate I still say that the people who paid full price get treated like Grade A douche nozzles. That's my opinion anyways.

Your right but the thing is most people dont do that and thats why DRM is needed and useful

Ok, first of, grammar. Please use it, you're killing my eyes. I mean this in the nicest way possible, because nobody will take you seriously unless you use it.

Secondly, its actually quite normal for anyone the age of 12 and above to know how to install a crack, considering its downloading a file and replacing the executable on a regular day.

Wanna play online but you don't have a key? Private servers. They're actually easy to find too.

Is it just me or do most people that have nothing to say then a simple template of an argument start of by complaining about grammar?

Is it just me or do most people who don't like it when someone points out that people get around this DRM easily focus on an off topic part of the post rather than the actual post?

I was being nice.