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Dangit2019

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It's one of those threads where someone posts an old blog post of their's. For any possible context needed, this was 5 months ago.

I used to listen to a lot of dubstep. I loved Flux Pavilion, Klaypex, and even the one who wrought mainstream unto dubstep himself, Skrillex. I loved the unique sound and impact of the bass every time I listened to a song. Or, at least, I used to.
The more I listened, the more tired I got of the genre. I tried to put a mark on why this was happening.

Was it the fanbase divided between

1. ?hardcore? (hipster) enthusiasts who loved this genre back in 2006 and can?t believe everybody else is ruining their genre

and

2. "Newbs" who like Skrillex because he ?isn't mainstream like David Guetta? and he has the ?sickest drops, bro??

No, it wasn?t that; I listen to Pierce the Veil, and their army of screaming teenage girls never brought me down off their music.

Was it the sound itself that was displeasing to me? No, only in a few songs had the bass tones gotten ridiculous to a point of sounding like Transformers puking.

No, it was the structure. The structure of a dubstep song is like the storyline of Mario game the way you can almost sing along to the changes. Here?s almost every dubstep song ever made:

1. Fast High hat and soon-to-be background melody.

2. Bass?Snare?Bass?Snare?Bass..BassSnare?Bass.Bass.Bass.Snare.SnareBass (repeat)

3. A brief moment of silence.

4.WOBWOBWOBWOB WAHHHH WOB WOB WOB WOB WAHHH WOB WOB WAHH

5. The initial impact vanishes and the song goes back to the background melody.

6. Another silent moment.

7. WOBWOBWOB (reprise)

8. Song might repeat 5-7 or just fade out with the hi-hat and melody now.

Almost EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

This wouldn?t make me mad if I didn?t get criticized by some of my dubstep-adoring friends because ?all metal sounds the freaking same?.

So, the question is, will dubstep die?

At this rate, definitely.

But does it have to?

No.

Really, the only way for dubstep to ever endure is simple: make songs on a regular structure.
There?s a reason other popular genres aren?t afraid to just stick to the Chorus-Verse-Chorus structure even though it should be played out by now: it just works.

The structure hasn?t ever been fixed or changed simply because it is the Golden Ticket to making a solid song.

This is going to sound extremely stupid, but I think the closest that the genre has come to that is the Korn dubstep album, and I think that if Korn was replaced by a group with actual talent, that album would?ve been the fresh step forward dubstep needs rather than the laughing stock it became amongst fans of both genres.

The structure I showed before can?t last because while it sets off a huge payoff, it doesn?t have anything to do after that and sort of meanders around with the bassline until it?s 3-5 minutes.

Dubstep can be saved, but with a crowd of jocks who couldn?t stand electronic music if it wasn?t for the ?uber drops?, I don?t think that artists will take the step just because of the risk of losing the jerks? money.
 

Vault101

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lets get this out the way then....

DUBSTEP ISNT MUSIC WHERE ARE THE INSTRUMENTS???? RAAAAGGHHH DFJKLSDJFKLSJDF

now back to normal people discussion
my problem with Dubstep is mainly how boring and formulatic it can be....(but your right that "narisistic canibal" song was awsome) though I'd like to think your not implying "it nees words to be a real song"

I liek to listen to all kinds of electronic though and don't look at specific genres, you can find gems

dubstep and rapping never seem to go well together I think because they drown each other out..however this works

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hmm and wheres that thing...


ah..there it is...
 

Vault101

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Dangit2019 said:
Don't worry, I'm not that stupid.
I think we can all agree however that its not music if it isnt made by physical instruemnts........I read it in a textbook

anyway, this is also the reason I love the Glitch Mob..their songs actualy feel like "songs" rathaer than just having buildup and nothing else

of coarse the glitch mob arent "dubstep" but being "all buildup and no bite" feels like a common thing in EDM somtimes
 

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Dubstep was way better around the turn of the century.
DJ Hatcha did way more for the genre than Skrillex ever will. The new stuff is known as "brostep" and I'll keep calling it as such.
 

Vault101

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AC10 said:
Dubstep was way better around the turn of the century.
DJ Hatcha did way more for the genre than Skrillex ever will.
I amdit I havnt listened to much of the "oldschool" "minimal" type dubstep...it seems kind of....boring...dare I say
 

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Vault101 said:
AC10 said:
Dubstep was way better around the turn of the century.
DJ Hatcha did way more for the genre than Skrillex ever will.
I amdit I havnt listened to much of the "oldschool" "minimal" type dubstep...it seems kind of....boring...dare I say
I don't even listen to it! My rave days were spent primarily in the hardcore, happy hardcore and drum and bass circles. I just knew of dubstep vague existence as some sort of dub and UK garage hybrid.

What I heard of it back then was a lot more laid back and I dug some of it, but I had vocal trance or liquid D&B for my relaxing time, so I really paid no attention to it. I remember in 2006 when a lot of the Toronto rave kids started making fun of the rise of wobble bass in the UK and how stupid it sounded. I even still have a cd from a Toronto local called "At least it's not wobble!"

Given this history, I was really surprised when I heard dubstep got so popular in late 2010 as I still had in mind the stuff I heard in the early 2000's. I just find it's kind of... I dunno, schlocky? I mean these guys are just pumping out songs to an exact formula. I remember the days when a D&B guy would spend 3 weeks fawning over the tom-toms he sampled to make sure they sounded correct on a track he was making just to give out for free on internet forums.

Now we have 2 weeks on a mac and you're done an album that becomes a bestseller. It's just madness.
 

Vault101

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AC10 said:
I don't even listen to it! My rave days were spent primarily in the hardcore, happy hardcore and drum and bass circles. I just knew of dubstep vague existence as some sort of dub and UK garage hybrid.

What I heard of it back then was a lot more laid back and I dug some of it, but I had vocal trance or liquid D&B for my relaxing time, so I really paid no attention to it. I remember in 2006 when a lot of the Toronto rave kids started making fun of the rise of wobble bass in the UK and how stupid it sounded. I even still have a cd from a Toronto local called "At least it's not wobble!"
I bought a Dubstep CD once (yes...thats a thing) just to get a feel for the genre, I was reading somthing I think in the booklet where a guy was talking about "the scene" back then where he said somthing like "It seemed odd at first,they stood their nodding their heads...and [b/]trainspotting during the breaks[/b]" <- which migh explain some things XD

[quote/]Now we have 2 weeks on a mac and you're done an album that becomes a bestseller. It's just madness.[/quote]
could be because higher end level technology is easyer to come buy