Dude That is A Zombie

[Lt. Dragunov]

Recently i was watching a couple of zombie movies and i realised something very odd about most of them. Now if anyone of you escapist woke up in the morning and saw people eating each other and being all undead like what would be the first thing to come to mind? Yes your right Zombies, but in most of the movies i was watching all of the characters did not seem to know or understand what they were or than "things." Now movies like resident evil and grind house are in my opinion not zombie movies to be taken seriously, in resident evil movies Alice later on gets all jean grey/ phoenix on everyone's ass so I'm only refering to resident evil one and two. But movies like dawn of the dead where it's suppose to be taken more seriously as in a realistic way of what would happen if a group of people were stranded together during a zombies outbreak, one can only guess that all the characters in the movies either did not play video game when they were little and/or did not go to the movies in the past thirty years. I just seems odd to me that something like not knowing an iconic enemy even in a movie like dawn of the dead could seem possible. What are your take's on this guys?

 

[New Vegas Samurai]

In their universes, at least in some, zombie movies don't exist...

 

[Casual Shinji]

There's a good bit in Shaun of the Dead where this also gets mentioned. Maybe because zombie movies by there very nature are ridiculous, so actually calling zombies "zombies" would only add to that.

Or maybe it's just the characters not wanting to accept the situation that they're in. Kinda like how the alien in Alien is never called as such (except for the Space Jockey).

 

[Jonluw]

I've only really watched one zombie movie - Død snø (Dead Snow) - and one of the characters in that movie is a film geek who keeps making references and shouting that they have to avoid getting bitten. That was more of a humor film though.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Watch Zombieland.

It takes every zombie-related trope and subverts it. The main character in particular is very genre savvy.

And it has Bill Murray.

 

[BRex21]

If you saw someone stumbling towards you, possibly bloody or injured would you automatically think zombie? Because to me that seems more like a psychological disorder on your part than NOT assuming someone is a zombie.

 

[Lucane]

Yeah it's like in most superhero movies you never see anyone reading comics or watching movies(Usually of any sort not just action/superhero movies) Watchmen is one of the few I've heard of that made a point to explain what a world be like if they had one thing we didn't have in real life actually happen instead of being written in stories 1st. It wouldn't really make alot of sense to write Superhero/Hero comics from fiction when there are real ones running around,so they figured Pirate Comics would be a good alternate for that universe Which is where "The Curse of the Black Freighter" came from in the Watchmen Universe.

So most Zombie movies don't have zombie fiction in them becuase well almost anyone you ask in your personal life likely knows at least one or two things about zombies like don't get bitten and/or destroy the brain(via shooting them in the head most often.) So making a movie where most people know that after the few show up should really allow for world wide spread infection.

 

[Lucane]

Watch Zombieland.

It takes every zombie-related trope and subverts it. The main character in particular is very genre savvy.

And it has Bill Murray.

Yeah but I'm pretty sure they never (during the present visual scenes in the movie)actually refer to the zombies as things from previous fictional/non-fictional media only in the narration talking to the audience.

Edit: His knowledge came from experience and what others had done which would be why on occasion he'd have to add/edit things on how to survive in Zombieland.

 

[ZeroMachine]

First off, for the record, I can never take anything "zombie" seriously, and I think movies that do are too cheesy.

Now, to answer your question, quite simply: it'd make every zombie movie boring as fuck. If it was world where "zombie" was a household term and everyone knew the genre, the zombie outbreak would NEVER happen. Think about it- if someone got infected, they'd INSTANTLY be killed by 4 or 5 people just standing by, the military and CDC would get involved, places would be quarantined, and after just a day or two crisis, the problem would probably be averted.

 

[klaynexas3]

Recently i was watching a couple of zombie movies and i realised something very odd about most of them. Now if anyone of you escapist woke up in the morning and saw people eating each other and being all undead like what would be the first thing to come to mind? Yes your right Zombies, but in most of the movies i was watching all of the characters did not seem to know or understand what they were or than "things." Now movies like resident evil and grind house are in my opinion not zombie movies to be taken seriously, in resident evil movies Alice later on gets all jean grey/ phoenix on everyone's ass so I'm only refering to resident evil one and two. But movies like dawn of the dead where it's suppose to be taken more seriously as in a realistic way of what would happen if a group of people were stranded together during a zombies outbreak, one can only guess that all the characters in the movies either did not play video game when they were little and/or did not go to the movies in the past thirty years. I just seems odd to me that something like not knowing an iconic enemy even in a movie like dawn of the dead could seem possible. What are your take's on this guys?

now, i don't know what dawn of the dead you were watching, but the one i saw, the original one, they knew it was zombies. in fact, the zombie outbreak had already happened, so they already knew about it, knew they were zombies, and knew not to get bitten. hell, they even started zombie hunting season, gave the rednecks some guns, and let them have some fun. maybe you're talking about the remake, and i never saw that one, so i don't know how the people in that one acted.

OT: most people wouldn't expect there to be a zombie outbreak, so if they see people eating each other, their first instinct is to deny the idea of zombies, because it never ends well when there are zombies.

 

[Lord Doomhammer]

Zombieland. Out of all of the movies about walking undead, this movie probably covered the subject the best. At first, its just people freaking out and not comprehending whats going on. But as society collapses, the nerds of the world realize... "yup, its a zombie apocalypse". It only seems to sink in after the major portions (news organizations, public media etc.) collapse, and when people are left only to the reality at hand that everyone realizes the gravity of what's going on.

 

[ZeroMachine]

First off, for the record, I can never take anything "zombie" seriously, and I think movies that do are too cheesy.

Now, to answer your question, quite simply: it'd make every zombie movie boring as fuck. If it was world where "zombie" was a household term and everyone knew the genre, the zombie outbreak would NEVER happen. Think about it- if someone got infected, they'd INSTANTLY be killed by 4 or 5 people just standing by, the military and CDC would get involved, places would be quarantined, and after just a day or two crisis, the problem would probably be averted.

Ehh? Say the zombie is like a L4D zombie, and one of them was released into the middle of a village or something, or it happened late at night..

If it was "released" then it wouldn't be a normal outbreak. It would be a targeted attack. Here's what would happen:

Someone would hear someone(thing) trying to break into their house, they'd call the police, the police would get there, and probably shoot it in the head. If one of the cops were bitten, yeah, it'd spread a bit, but the second that happened, they'd realize that biting turns you, so it'd eventually grind to a halt. If it happened to overtake the whole village, by the time it did, the military would probably have been notified, and town would be under quarantine and, depending on the severity of the outbreak in the town, it would be purged.

The idea of a real zombie outbreak with a virus that spreads by biting it just silly. A virus that spreads through the atmosphere is much more realistic.

Then again, the idea of zombies being anything but fantasy is ridiculous in it's own right. The "living dead" would still be rotted, and they'd just fall apart as they walked. Their jaw probably wouldn't be strong enough to break the skin on anything but a small child.

As serious works, I just hate the ideas of zombies in general, though, unless a major twist is put to them, like the Flood from Halo or Las Plagas from Resident Evil 4 (though I wouldn't call RE4 all that serious).

 

[Scarim Coral]

Oh god yes I am so fed up with the whole there no such thing as a zombie in film universe! Serious most zombie films are like that! (Diary of the Dead, Resident Evil degeneration, night of the walking dead remake and etc). I think it's worst that there is a rich history to the whole zombie (it's dated back somewhere in the 1930's in Haiti) and they simple ignore it completely.
I would love to see for once a film where most people know what a zombie is and know how to deal with it (this would bring a new twists if they introduce new zombies that no one is familiar before i.e. headshot does not mean instant dead).

 

[Stilkon]

Well, if a zombie apocalypse ever happens for real, our world will be full of nerdy vigilantes who were educated solely by reading Cracked.com articles.

 

[Chibz]

Ever play Red Dead Redemption's "Undead Nightmare" DLC? In it, John Marston has no idea what zombies are. He even thinks the first one he sees is drunk.

Mostly because it's setting appropriate for him to be ignorant about the *cough* "dangers" of zombies.

 

[ZeroMachine]

First off, for the record, I can never take anything "zombie" seriously, and I think movies that do are too cheesy.

Now, to answer your question, quite simply: it'd make every zombie movie boring as fuck. If it was world where "zombie" was a household term and everyone knew the genre, the zombie outbreak would NEVER happen. Think about it- if someone got infected, they'd INSTANTLY be killed by 4 or 5 people just standing by, the military and CDC would get involved, places would be quarantined, and after just a day or two crisis, the problem would probably be averted.

Ehh? Say the zombie is like a L4D zombie, and one of them was released into the middle of a village or something, or it happened late at night..

If it was "released" then it wouldn't be a normal outbreak. It would be a targeted attack. Here's what would happen:

Someone would hear someone(thing) trying to break into their house, they'd call the police, the police would get there, and probably shoot it in the head. If one of the cops were bitten, yeah, it'd spread a bit, but the second that happened, they'd realize that biting turns you, so it'd eventually grind to a halt. If it happened to overtake the whole village, by the time it did, the military would probably have been notified, and town would be under quarantine and, depending on the severity of the outbreak in the town, it would be purged.

The idea of a real zombie outbreak with a virus that spreads by biting it just silly. A virus that spreads through the atmosphere is much more realistic.

Then again, the idea of zombies being anything but fantasy is ridiculous in it's own right. The "living dead" would still be rotted, and they'd just fall apart as they walked. Their jaw probably wouldn't be strong enough to break the skin on anything but a small child.

As serious works, I just hate the ideas of zombies in general, though, unless a major twist is put to them, like the Flood from Halo or Las Plagas from Resident Evil 4 (though I wouldn't call RE4 all that serious).

You're sleeping and a neighbour breaks in, you're kinda freaked but it's your neighbour so you try and ask him WTF?! he bites you and either you over power him, turn and bite someone else, or he eats you and bites someone else you're living with, this happens to your entire neighbourhood before someone notices, and they're quickly overpowered


In Britain police will only shoot if you're an immediate danger to someone's life, no one has their own guns.. it could spread quite easily..

Look up 28days later..? Not officially zombies but similar.

You seem to forget that everyone in horror movies are damn near clinically retarded, even though some seem smart.

The idea that NO ONE would notice an every growing horde of insane people (or, hell, the idea that they wouldn't make enough noise breaking into the houses in the first place to wake the neighbors) is just insane. Someone would hear them. Someone would call the cops. It would be stopped.

Think realistically. People lock their doors- the zombies would have to break into the houses (hell, they probably would anyways, I doubt they know how to use doors). They would probably make enough noise to wake the dead (hardy har har). If you heard that noise, if you have half a brain, your first reaction should be to call the cops. Then, let's say you go downstairs and there's your neighbor. You have a baseball bat in hand. Your neighbor is obviously sick in the head. But remember- he's a zombie. He should be easy to keep at bay with that bat. But let's say you get bitten... you turn into one of them. The cops show up, see the two guys in there that look high as fuck, and they probably try to tase them. If that doesn't work, they'd probably knock them down. And guess what? They probably wouldn't get bitten. Crack heads on the streets try to bite cops all the time. They practically have unofficial training for it. So they put the crack heads in a separate cell, any cop that gets bitten is instantly taken to the hospital, they find out theres some horrible infection, they kill those infected, end of story. Except for the massive amount of paperwork.

And I hated 28 Days Later. Not to mention I've met someone truly insane... he's a gun freak that wants to start a collection to prepare for the impending zombie apocalypse. And he actually believes that shit.

Zombies as works of fiction are fine. Talking about it like it could really happen is silly. And when it comes to works of fiction, nowadays, zombies have become a parody of themselves. I hate the Dead Island trailer for this reason. It tries to take itself too seriously.

EDIT:

Ever play Red Dead Redemption's "Undead Nightmare" DLC? In it, John Marston has no idea what zombies are. He even thinks the first one he sees is drunk.

Mostly because it's setting appropriate for him to be ignorant about the *cough* "dangers" of zombies.

Undead Nightmare is the best zombie anything ever. Not only does it not take itself seriously, it does things in a more realistic manner, AND it has the backing of a fully developed game world behind it that was based in realism. It flips that world on it's head, making for not only a funny but still mildly interesting story, but also gameplay that completely fucks with what was established in the game.

I fuckin' love it.

 

[Spade Lead]

Look up 28days later..? Not officially zombies but similar.

They weren't Zombies? Then what the hell were they?

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

Well most of time people don't initially think zombies because they don't really exist. So why would you need to worry about them. I mean do you start freaking out about dragons every time you see the silhouette of some animal in the sky? Why get freaked out about something that doesn't exist.

That and people can do amazing things with their minds when it comes to denying reality in exchange for mental comfort.

Plus. normal people don't watch tons of zombie movies or play video games with zombies in them. It's consider a rather "geekish" thing to do, obsessing over a fictional thing that much.

 

[SkyeNeko]

Well, if a zombie apocalypse ever happens for real, our world will be full of nerdy vigilantes who were educated solely by reading Cracked.com articles.

yep. they'd be on that in a heartbeat.

I think it'd be pretty easy to tell the difference between an injured person and a zombie. Normal people scream or something when they're hurt, they don't stumble towards you arms out salivating at the thought of devouring your flesh.

Even if you didn't want to think they were zombies, they aren't exactly something you want near you. At most they are some contagious diseased mentally unstable person who escaped from the hospital.

 

[shadyh8er]

Look up 28days later..? Not officially zombies but similar.

They weren't Zombies? Then what the hell were they?

The technical definition of a zombie is a reanimated corpse. The "zombies" in 28 Days Later were living humans infected by a virus.