Bad guy has gun, hero is unarmed. Bad buy throws away gun and engages in overly dramatic hand to hand combat and loses.
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Definitely [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/8868-Experienced-Points-What-s-Wrong-with-Mass-Effect-2]Kahunaburger said:
I still don't understand how you found the combat in the ME2 enjoyable tho.
Just because I watched it recently 9. ?Oh hey the robotic cat thing that was attacking us tried to put this talisman into that slot. I think I?ll put in myself and see what happens!?. At least all the other characters yell at him for it.
Upham in Saving Private Ryan. Yeah, I know he's supposed to represent how the average person would react when suddenly thrown into a war, but his combination of stupidity and cowardice just really annoyed me.
He was INCHES away from the guy that was about to shoot Tom Hanks and he did nothing. He also got 2 other guys killed! Fuck you Upham.
Well Lister's plan kind of faded out, didn't it? As I said, the cyber park mentioned would probably give the cat his choice of sexual partners. I would have thought that being around a genius such as Legion would please Rimmer. Not much of what you said could really be accomplished back on Red Dwarf.FalloutJack said:
Basically anytime someone says let's split up.
Or when a someone has a gun at whoever's head and then cocks the gun instead of already having the gun ready for business.
Specific Example: In one of the newer Nightside books the baddie sends some crappy goons at Taylor which is dumb in of itself b/c at that point Taylor has become a major player and the baddie should know that goons won't do jack. Taylor uses his power to basically rip all the goons teeth out at once and the goons still think they can win until Taylor threatens to do the same thing to their balls at which point they then do the smart thing and beat feet.
If some dude rips all my teeth out with magic and no real effort, I'm out.
Or when a someone has a gun at whoever's head and then cocks the gun instead of already having the gun ready for business.
Specific Example: In one of the newer Nightside books the baddie sends some crappy goons at Taylor which is dumb in of itself b/c at that point Taylor has become a major player and the baddie should know that goons won't do jack. Taylor uses his power to basically rip all the goons teeth out at once and the goons still think they can win until Taylor threatens to do the same thing to their balls at which point they then do the smart thing and beat feet.
If some dude rips all my teeth out with magic and no real effort, I'm out.
Really? I thought the it was an amazing game, character wise. I love Cave Johnson especially.Thespian said:
OT: has anyone said Other M yet? If not, that'd be a surprise.
I know, but they could have just done something where they did something to have Legion force them to leave.TheIronRuler said:
Oh, and in Eragon:
Eragon is flying on dragon back and notices Brom is being chased by Urgals. He lands between them, and tries to throw all the Urgals with telekinetic magic instead of killing them. All because of some "I hate killing" thing. There's making a deep character with inner-conflicts about what he has to do, and then there's just making a transparent ninny.
Not necessarily, sometimes it's necessary if they are looking for something/someone, or have multiple jobs to do. E.g. in Supernatural, it's usually for a good reason. In horror movies, when the character have no combat skills, are terrified of some murderer? Yeah, that's bloody pathetic. Would it kill a director to forcibly split his characters up for once?Gaiseric said:
It's an issue of imprisonment. Lister has always had an anti authority streak and thus co-uld not consent to be imprisoned with pretty strict rules (like the 'curfew', due to Legion needing every one to be in their cells when one of them sleeps). Plus, just because they haven't mentioned it for a while, Lister is still all about his plan and his farm on Fiji. To do that he needs to get back to Earth, to do that he needs a ship and Red Dwarf is the closest.binnsyboy said:
Kryten has to serve the surviving human (a point that crops up in White Hole- he doesn't really serve the crew, he serves Lister).
Rimmer, actually, hates being around geniuses, for the same reason he hates being around his brothers, they remind him of how much of a failure he really is. Plus, Legion was a genius when everyone around him was geniuses, now it's the dwarfers, he's no genius anymore, but still brighter than Rimmer (thus Rimmer would loathe his company- he only wanted Legion to go with them because it would increase his chances of survival and he's used to being hated by everyone around him).
Which leaves the Cat. You every tried trapping a cat in one place? They don't like it. Basically, staying doesn't actually fit any of the characters except Kryten. Also- note that Legion hates them as well and is quite relieved when they escape.
for stupid decisions, anything Peter Petrelli does in Heroes (Like when he goes to save Claire from Sylar in season 1 "I don't have time to wait for the man who can go back in time, or at worst, pause it!"), anytime a character in Heroes lets Peter make a decision.
The part in Infamous 2 when
You shoot a nuke at the beast.
I actually could not believe how bad that plan was.
To anyone who is reading the spoiler because they haven't played the game and do not plan to, here is a basic outline of the plan. Two untrained civilians find a nuclear missile in a warehouse. They have no proof that the missile works and no knowledge of how powerful it is. They decide the best thing to do is to fire the nuke from the back of a flatbed truck, using a pair of binoculars to aim it. The target they are aiming a nuke at is visible from their position with the naked eye.
We are also told later that there are "no reports of fallout from the blast", despite the fact that the explosion was close enough to knock the protagonist out, and the fallout from the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings was detected on the other side of the world.
I actually could not believe how bad that plan was.
To anyone who is reading the spoiler because they haven't played the game and do not plan to, here is a basic outline of the plan. Two untrained civilians find a nuclear missile in a warehouse. They have no proof that the missile works and no knowledge of how powerful it is. They decide the best thing to do is to fire the nuke from the back of a flatbed truck, using a pair of binoculars to aim it. The target they are aiming a nuke at is visible from their position with the naked eye.
We are also told later that there are "no reports of fallout from the blast", despite the fact that the explosion was close enough to knock the protagonist out, and the fallout from the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings was detected on the other side of the world.
Nerfing one of the most badass characters so that he can only take on a few enemies at the same time, only carry two weapons and have to cry behind a rock to heal up, instead of taping health kits to his chest...
I'm not saying he has to be, but those are hardly qualities generally associated with heterosexuality.warrcry13 said:
And not that he said he never had a relationship with a woman, but rather, nothing ever indicated that he had.
And finally, if you never got a sense that he might have fallen in love with one of his male friends before, then perhaps you should read more carefully. As Rowling saw it, Dumbledore had fallen in love with Grindelwald, adding to the horror of what he eventually became, and the depth of their relationship.
I just don't understand how a character that has never been alluded to being one sexuality or the other or expressed a love interest in any female can seem "wrong" to be gay. I don't know what you mean by "it made no sense". What does a character have to do for it to be okay for them to be gay? Have rainbows shoot out their eyes, cross dress and speak in a high pitched camp voice about fashion trends?
Geez.
I enjoyed the game, but I thought it ruined the characters. Portal 1 managed to balance being funny and being sinister. In Portal 2...SilverUchiha said:
The comic side-kick who was lovable, funny but not the least bit threatening became the villain. The big, end-all evil villain.
The previous big end-all evil villain known for being a sadistic murdering witch was put into a potato, so that you had absolutely none of the chemistry with her from portal 1.
The cold, unknown face of Aperture science that provided so much mystery was given a bland paint job with fucking Saxton Hale from TF2. Fairly funny, but it reminded us how boring Aperture was really, just a dude running a business with his secretary, no hidden motive behind it, no secret agenda, nothing.
Ugh.
The previous big end-all evil villain known for being a sadistic murdering witch was put into a potato, so that you had absolutely none of the chemistry with her from portal 1.
The cold, unknown face of Aperture science that provided so much mystery was given a bland paint job with fucking Saxton Hale from TF2. Fairly funny, but it reminded us how boring Aperture was really, just a dude running a business with his secretary, no hidden motive behind it, no secret agenda, nothing.
Ugh.
So yeah
But you are right about Other M, for sure.
I disagree...SirBryghtside said:
The hilarious Moron, instead of making funny quips whilst being hilariously incompetent, became the villain you had to outsmart.
By the way, GlaDOS repeatedly says he was "designed to be stupid" but he's obviously the smartest damn thing in Aperture. He's clearly smarter than GlaDOS, making far better decisions than her again and again, tricking and trapping both of you on multiple occasions.
And GlaDOS is psychotic, yes. You know what you do with a psychotic character? You make them frightening, dangerous. You do not put them in a potato.
God damn it.
By the way, GlaDOS repeatedly says he was "designed to be stupid" but he's obviously the smartest damn thing in Aperture. He's clearly smarter than GlaDOS, making far better decisions than her again and again, tricking and trapping both of you on multiple occasions.
And GlaDOS is psychotic, yes. You know what you do with a psychotic character? You make them frightening, dangerous. You do not put them in a potato.
God damn it.
Thespian said:
You are trying to make me out to be the ass. Not saying you are either. No I just never got a gay vibe from him. An old guy usually doesn't go around talking to teenagers saying hey dude you see that ***** I wore her out. I always saw him as seeing Grindelwald as a brother not a lover. Though hey it can be seen both ways sure I suppose.
Not that he would have to say it, the book's narrative could have translated that he had a pass relationship with a woman, which was my point, not that he said it.warrcry13 said:
But dude, my point is, what's a "Gay Vibe"? Did you get a "Straight Vibe" from him? I know heterosexuality is more common, but why is it default? Why does a character have to be gay enough to give a "vibe" in order to be gay?
It just sounds like you think gay people act totally different. /Shrug
Sorry if I came out too belligerent. Didn't intend to imply anything negative about your character.