Durango Developers Verify Xbox 720 Prototype Details
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This is pretty much all that matters to me as well for the next set of consoles.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
And maybe I'm overreacting or being crazy, but I also agree if Sony and MS enable the no used game policy, console gaming will be dead.
Sure the Wii will continue but..um.
Well.....
Yeah.
why give it a year or 2 and the pc will make this look out dated "again"DVS BSTrD said:
also considering the specs if legit this will cost the same if not more than a decent gaming rig with none of the upgrades that the pc user will be able to do
on the other hand as a pc and console gamer i will be happy to see the consoles catch up again this can only be a good thing for games
Blah Blah, technical babble blah. Anyway, as someone who wants to join the PC gaming crowd but is just too damn poor to afford it, this is somewhat good news. If this is cheaper than a high end PC then I'll definitely buy it because game devs will most likely optimise their games for this type of build and then I will continue to save up for a high end PC so I won't have to buy the Xbox 1440 or whatever they'd call the next Xbox after this. Budgeting, simple stuff.
Yay for RAM upgrades! No more looooooooooong loading screens. Less pop up. More players, larger battlefields. All the good stuff that PCs have had for a while now. Except the free online, but PCs have to hold on to something. You guys are going to love it! I for one will be looking forward eagerly to the next gen PC ports.
I feel obliged to answer the accusation of "PC elitism" myself.
As the previous poster already pointed out I didn't mean to say that I'm better as a PC gamer simply because I have abetter machine. It's not hard to have more performance in a PC than the consoles have. The current console generation is about 6 years old. Even at release the top PCs were already ahead in regards of performance and now they have 10 times the power a console has.
But this doesn't make me feel elite. It's just the nature of consoles. They have a specific set of hardware and that's it. The advantage for the user is, that they don't have to care about upgrading the systems getting new OS and so on. Turn it on and it usually works. That's fine.
But it also becomes a problem when these systems get to old like with the current generation.
Look at the game releases over the last 3 years. Where are the really interesting games? Most of the fresh ideas came PC only releases from indy studios. The triple-A productions were all multiplattform titles and far over 50% of them sucked....especially in the FPS genre.
We need interesting new ideas (open dynamic worlds for example) but it's impossible to realise this stuff with proper graphics if a console like the PS3 only 256MB memory.
So yes, I want to see new consoles so I can see some progress on pc gaming as well.
As the previous poster already pointed out I didn't mean to say that I'm better as a PC gamer simply because I have abetter machine. It's not hard to have more performance in a PC than the consoles have. The current console generation is about 6 years old. Even at release the top PCs were already ahead in regards of performance and now they have 10 times the power a console has.
But this doesn't make me feel elite. It's just the nature of consoles. They have a specific set of hardware and that's it. The advantage for the user is, that they don't have to care about upgrading the systems getting new OS and so on. Turn it on and it usually works. That's fine.
But it also becomes a problem when these systems get to old like with the current generation.
Look at the game releases over the last 3 years. Where are the really interesting games? Most of the fresh ideas came PC only releases from indy studios. The triple-A productions were all multiplattform titles and far over 50% of them sucked....especially in the FPS genre.
We need interesting new ideas (open dynamic worlds for example) but it's impossible to realise this stuff with proper graphics if a console like the PS3 only 256MB memory.
So yes, I want to see new consoles so I can see some progress on pc gaming as well.
We DON'T NEED another system. Last I heard is that there won't be any difference in capabilities in comparison of this generation to the last meaning little to NO upgrades. Not much reason to invest in a new system if they aren't going to enhance it's capabilities. This is the reason that sony is holding off. What we NEED in the video game industry is the following CHEAPER GAMES , NEW INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY , and lastly REMOVAL / DISCONTINUATION OF D . R . M as well as D . L . C since the industry doesn't know how to handle either.
Yeah but just because this prototype is x86 doesn't mean the eventual retail model will be. Until final production specs are locked in, it only makes sense to use an overpowered x86_64 machine for your devkit and have it emulate (hence the 'overpowered' requirement) your proposed console.NLS said:
I really can't see Microsoft switching back to CISC based architecture processors... it would leave their consoles far too open to 3rd parties doing their own thing with them.
If Microsoft were smart they would base their new console off the Windows 8 kernel so it can be cross intergrated across platform (PC , nextbox , surface tablets and Win mobile )
Then you have two markets they are tapping into by being able to sell and distribute their games cross platform.
Only downside I guess is that MS would undoubtedly want you to have a XBL gold account that you have to pay for in order to use the PC side of things.
They are not smart though so its likely that they will continue to deny the existence of PCs gaming market.
And if the hardware specs are accurate then it looks like we are in for another generation of the Microsoft console being the one that is the weakest in terms of its hardware which in turn leads it to being the one holding development back. Likely more so than this gen as from the PS4's specs that were released yesterday it looks like the gap will be bigger between the consoles hardware wise.
Then you have two markets they are tapping into by being able to sell and distribute their games cross platform.
Only downside I guess is that MS would undoubtedly want you to have a XBL gold account that you have to pay for in order to use the PC side of things.
They are not smart though so its likely that they will continue to deny the existence of PCs gaming market.
And if the hardware specs are accurate then it looks like we are in for another generation of the Microsoft console being the one that is the weakest in terms of its hardware which in turn leads it to being the one holding development back. Likely more so than this gen as from the PS4's specs that were released yesterday it looks like the gap will be bigger between the consoles hardware wise.