Dyack: Fart App Flood "Disrupting" Entire Videogame Industry

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gunner1905

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Tom Goldman said:
"As an example, my understanding is that there are 17,000 fart apps right now," Dyack told Industry Gamers. "Those are more fart apps than anyone could possibly ever consume. What that does, when you start having performance oversupply, it accelerates the commoditization that drives the value of games down."
You know the value of something isn't only based on supply but also demand, and nobody is demanding these fart apps that are probably made by someone with a spare time or by a small time game dev to pad out their catalog
the point is nobody are buying these fart apps and the good games on the app store will rise above just because they're better than other apps
and also the games that are eroding other game markets are good games (like #sworcery) not these fart apps
good games will always overshadows bad games (too human) cause that's just what the customers wants on any platform or even between platforms
 

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17,000 fart apps? Is like people who make these believe that they are the first ones to come up with it. Reminds me of that one stupid developer that keeps making shitloads of that "Talking _____ the talking_____" apps.

Makes me wish the App Store had a strict set of rules to reduce cheap knockoffs.
well then there'd be only about one or two things in the app store wouldn't there?

anyways:
the fact that there are THAT many freaking fart apps says one thing. the fact that they disrupt sales of things you SHOULD be spending your money on is an entirely different matter.

Short version?
Yahtzee's right.
 

LeeshaJoy

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Dyack is misinformed. There are 17,000 total apps in the App Store. A quick search for "fart" in said store brings up about 900 hits, which is a pretty significant chunk of the total count but nowhere near what he seems to think it is.
 

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And the saddest part is that all 17, 000 of those fart apps are more entertaining than Too Human.

Dyack has been mouthing off a lot lately...
 

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This is to be expected with every new craze. Right now apps are the new craze and people all around are trying to cash in. I don't see it hurting videogames as much as it will turn around and hurt the app industry. Think about when consoles first really hit their stride, and companies came up to make games to cash in on that. What happened? It busted and we had quite the drought until the NES came out and hit its stride.
Then there is the dotcom craze. People saw the chance to make millions selling whoknowswhat online. What happened? It crashed and people ended up owing millions. But now it seems pretty stable with sites that stayed above the waterline.
Same thing is going to happen with the app craze. I give it another year or two before it crashes. When the smoke clears, it will be a much more stable marketplace where videogames can survive and even grow alongside.
But for right now, I ain't touching a smartphone with a ten foot pole.
 

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
And the saddest part is that all 17, 000 of those fart apps are more entertaining than Too Human.

Dyack has been mouthing off a lot lately...
Ouch. I think you got some blood on you with that bit. Need a towel?
 

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It's such a shame that anything this man says is immediately tossed aside when one remembers that he was involved in making a ten year in production that turned out to be worth less than a fart app.
exactly, and i dont see fart apps as 'games' i see them as toys. there isnt really any 'game' part to them.
 

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LeeshaJoy said:
Dyack is misinformed. There are 17,000 total apps in the App Store. A quick search for "fart" in said store brings up about 900 hits, which is a pretty significant chunk of the total count but nowhere near what he seems to think it is.
There's actually closer to 300,000 aps in the app store. Theres about 30,000 alone just for the iPad, even android market is only about 100k behind apple.
 

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What can I say? People think it's gas. They hear a fart and they go "<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whoopee_cushion>Whooppee!"
 

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Do crappy low budget B movies detract from the Oscars each year? Does the existence of Bieber mean music is no longer art? Does the popularity of Harry Potter mean Terry Pratchett should have quit?

(Yes, I'm still a little pissed that Rowling got hundreds of millions in movie budgets for her generic 'teen wizard done a sparkly thing' stories, while the Discworld has to grovel to Sky for a few lousy million. There again, it's harder to sell complex layered storylines with deep social comment and satire to movie funders, they like cute kids and sparkly trails in the sky).

Sure there's a heap of old crap out there, but it makes the gems glimmer all the brighter when you unearth one, however, yes, Apply could spend a few bucks from their billions on hiring some kid to check if the new apps being presented to the store just go 'prrrrrp' and ask $3 for the privilege.

There again, the 'I'm rich' app sold a few too, and that was $1000 for a picture of a diamond and the words 'I'm rich' on the screen. (Looked it up, he sold 8 copies, but 2 were 'mistakes' and he refunded their money, so it seems he's a fairly honourable guy who just saw a way to sell a really dumb overpriced status symbol to rich people, and isn't that wht fast cars, expensive jewellery and the like are too?

In the end, I guess crap serves a purpose in making the good stuff look better, but some kind of quality control makes the owner of the store look better, take a look in a LIDL, then go to Marks n Spencer, there's some great stuff dirt cheap in LIDL if you're willing to look, but M&S is pretty much guaranteed levels of quality, for a price.
 

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He sounds right on paper, but in practice i'm not seeing it.As long as his games are actually better than the crap shovelware over there, there shouldn't be a problem. I mean, does the existance of cheap frozen chicken somehow devalue fillet mignon? Bit of a strawman, but it's effectively the same thing.

Just sounds like he's bitching that Nintendo can't make $ off their own shovelware anymore.
 

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Whenever I hear ?X is ruining the Y industry? I wonder why.

It has always been my view that if you cannot compete in a fair and free market, then perhaps you are in the wrong industry.

When I heard Nintendo complaining I thought ?Wow, now with competition, they realize that a lot of the DS games wouldn?t go for more than $4 on the app store. Rather than get on the business and make money, they want to ***** about it?.
 

Reed Spacer

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This guy thinks all the dumb apps haven't helped the small game developers, they've rectum.
 

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It's really sad to see all these large developers get so damn butt hurt about cheap mobile gaming the likes of the App Store and the Android Market. Tell ya what fellas, if you big boys are so put off by indie developers exposing your products as largely overpriced, overvalued garbage maybe you should adapt and if you can't adapt the world can always use more ditch diggers.

Man it's like every god damned time someone from the game industry opens their mouth anymore it's to ***** about either low priced apps, or used games, or piracy, or whatever else they want to believe is victimizing them on any given day. I really wish their collective balls would drop and they would stop being such whiny little bitches.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
"So what's happening is you have a lot of people going into this hoping that they're going to get this smash hit like Angry Birds and you have a lot of investment in this industry and it's not clear if that's a viable industry."
What, you mean like how publishers in the AAA-title realm are doing the exact same thing with Call of Duty?

Also, what's up with all this trash talk from Silicon Knights about new-fangled game genres all of a sudden? First they ***** about social games, now appstore games.

This just sounds to me like a desperate attempt by SK to try and be relevant anymore. I'm just going to quote myself from the last SK news story on here:
beema said:
That's great. Too bad this opinion comes from a developer that ceased being relevant 6 years ago.
 

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LeeshaJoy said:
Hungry Donner said:
Wasn't Angry Birds itself a knock off? You could find free launcher/knock-down flash games all over the internet before it showed up. I've never played AB so maybe it added something new I'm unaware of.
Yeah, it added the aspect of not being able to friggin' see what you're aiming at. How the game ever got so popular is beyond me--I played the free demo for two minutes and got fed up with it.
Maybe on the 3DS version they'll allow players to adjust the arc and strength of the shot with the stylus while viewing the birds projected flight and point of impact on the top screen.

.....I'm also dumbfounded by the game's popularity. Cut the Rope ftw