E3 Preview: Dust 514

[Skratt]

At first I thought that they'd balance the permanent loss thing by making items cheap (compared to most items in EVE), but then I saw the trailer. 375,000 ISK for a single suit of armour for a single player?

Surely only the biggest hyper-ultra-mega-corporations will be able to outfit an army...

Hey, in EVE. If you want the best stuff. You're gonna have to pay big money. Just makes losing it all the more important.

That price seems a bit off. A suit of armor costing more than a starship? Also no PC = boo.

 

[Alexnader]

Mike, think you could add a platform note? I mean, I know it's only for PS3 (damnit), but not everybody does, and who knows, maybe they've changed plans? I'd love a PC version of this to be available.

I spoke directly with the developers about that exact topic, and they confirmed that there are no plans to release this anywhere but PSN. I'm not a big fan of the decision, either.

Nooooooooo!!!!!

Ah well, they probably saw Planetside 2 coming and ran away scared.

How many times does this need to be addressed? Microsoft made it impossible for them to release it on the Xbox.

Uh... but they didn't make it impossible for them to release it on PC? Planetside 2 is a PC exclusive title, not sure where you got the Xbox stuff from.

 

[knight4light]

One thing that caught my attention was at the EVE fanfest held this year, one guy asked the members of the Dust development team if we could fight on EVE players' ships as boarding parties. They're response was "would you like that?"

I saw that on the stream. i was screaming "yes! yes! oh god yes!" but i think bording each ship would be a pain if its in a big fleetbattle and you wouldnt want to kill your friendlies.. but maybe a ship that is always around... always in space...say.... A super cap... they are thousands of km long.. i can see myself as a dust player navigating the corridors of a wyvern. or storming the bridge of an Avatar. Setting self distruct codes or planting explosives all around the area.....an avatar might become one of the bigest dust maps...lol....that would be so..


epic.

 

[Product Placement]

Mike, think you could add a platform note? I mean, I know it's only for PS3 (damnit), but not everybody does, and who knows, maybe they've changed plans? I'd love a PC version of this to be available.

I spoke directly with the developers about that exact topic, and they confirmed that there are no plans to release this anywhere but PSN. I'm not a big fan of the decision, either.

Nooooooooo!!!!!

Ah well, they probably saw Planetside 2 coming and ran away scared.

How many times does this need to be addressed? Microsoft made it impossible for them to release it on the Xbox.

Uh... but they didn't make it impossible for them to release it on PC? Planetside 2 is a PC exclusive title, not sure where you got the Xbox stuff from.

I misread the post. I noticed the "PSN" part and was immediately taken back to old war time flashbacks of endlessly informing people, that were whining about this game not being released on the Xbox. On the PC vs PSN thing, I'm not quite sure why they're not releasing it on PC as well. Could be that it's impossible to run servers, where people on the PSN and people on PCs are playing together.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

In my opinion, Eve is the closest thing to an MMO out right now. A massive world, run almost entirely by players, and everything in the game is player driven. To me, that is the only point of an MMO. It was the primary draw of them back when I first played them. I should add though that I think Eve is massively boring and so are MMOs in general, but at least it lets everything be run by the players instead of stupid NPCs.
I don't know if fans of shooters and fans of the kinda BS in Eve is going to overlap enough for Dust 514 to work.

 

[Alexnader]

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I misread the post. I noticed the "PSN" part and was immediately taken back to old war time flashbacks of endlessly informing people, that were whining about this game not being released on the Xbox. On the PC vs PSN thing, I'm not quite sure why they're not releasing it on PC as well. Could be that it's impossible to run servers, where people on the PSN and people on PCs are playing together.

Ah, fair enough. Anyway I'm going to just keep telling myself Dust won't come out on PC because the devs saw Planetside 2 coming and realised they were never going to make a game as good as that and just decided they couldn't compete.

/fanboy.

 

[WW2Dude]

Ah, fair enough. Anyway I'm going to just keep telling myself Dust won't come out on PC because the devs saw Planetside 2 coming and realised they were never going to make a game as good as that and just decided they couldn't compete.

/fanboy.

"We wanted to find an audience that was kind of diagonally opposite of what we already have, instead of trying to cannibalize what we already have." - CCP Chief Technical Officer, Halldor Fannar.

1. They're trying to appeal to the console audience and it's easier to do that when your entire dev team is working on the game for one console, other than spreading thin for two consoles and the PC. They could have done it for Xbox but Microsoft didn't feel comfortable connecting Xbox Live to CCP's Tranquility super server. Sony is more open, in fact they lifted all PSN regulations off Dust 514 in order for CCP to make updates quicker and operate it more effectively.

2.They think that releasing it on the PC will incite unhealthy competition. CCP is afraid if the PC gamers who pay to play EVE leave to play Dust ( A free 2 play game), they loose their primary income. In my opinion, they're being overcautious but maybe when Dust and EVE start balancing out after release, they'll release it for PC.

 

[Alexnader]

Ah, fair enough. Anyway I'm going to just keep telling myself Dust won't come out on PC because the devs saw Planetside 2 coming and realised they were never going to make a game as good as that and just decided they couldn't compete.

/fanboy.

"We wanted to find an audience that was kind of diagonally opposite of what we already have, instead of trying to cannibalize what we already have." - CCP Chief Technical Officer, Halldor Fannar.

1. They're trying to appeal to the console audience and it's easier to do that when your entire dev team is working on the game for one console, other than spreading thin for two consoles and the PC. They could have done it for Xbox but Microsoft didn't feel comfortable connecting Xbox Live to CCP's Tranquility super server. Sony is more open, in fact they lifted all PSN regulations off Dust 514 in order for CCP to make updates quicker and operate it more effectively.

2.They think that releasing it on the PC will incite unhealthy competition. CCP is afraid if the PC gamers who pay to play EVE leave to play Dust ( A free 2 play game), they loose their primary income. In my opinion, they're being overcautious but maybe when Dust and EVE start balancing out after release, they'll release it for PC.

Well yeah they'd say that. Sony also gives fat bonuses and makes deals to developers that go PS3 exclusive, or to those who give benefits to PS3 players. E.e. DICE and them giving PS3 players 2 week previews of everything. Read between the lines sheeple! Wargarble! I'd agree with your view that they're overcautious. Even if there is a big overlap in scope between the giant spreadsheet that is Eve and the FPS that is Dust, it's not like people can't play both games.

 

[WW2Dude]

Ah, fair enough. Anyway I'm going to just keep telling myself Dust won't come out on PC because the devs saw Planetside 2 coming and realised they were never going to make a game as good as that and just decided they couldn't compete.

/fanboy.

"We wanted to find an audience that was kind of diagonally opposite of what we already have, instead of trying to cannibalize what we already have." - CCP Chief Technical Officer, Halldor Fannar.

1. They're trying to appeal to the console audience and it's easier to do that when your entire dev team is working on the game for one console, other than spreading thin for two consoles and the PC. They could have done it for Xbox but Microsoft didn't feel comfortable connecting Xbox Live to CCP's Tranquility super server. Sony is more open, in fact they lifted all PSN regulations off Dust 514 in order for CCP to make updates quicker and operate it more effectively.

2.They think that releasing it on the PC will incite unhealthy competition. CCP is afraid if the PC gamers who pay to play EVE leave to play Dust ( A free 2 play game), they loose their primary income. In my opinion, they're being overcautious but maybe when Dust and EVE start balancing out after release, they'll release it for PC.

Well yeah they'd say that. Sony also gives fat bonuses and makes deals to developers that go PS3 exclusive, or to those who give benefits to PS3 players. E.e. DICE and them giving PS3 players 2 week previews of everything. Read between the lines sheeple! Wargarble! I'd agree with your view that they're overcautious. Even if there is a big overlap in scope between the giant spreadsheet that is Eve and the FPS that is Dust, it's not like people can't play both games.

An easy statement to make from someone who doesn't know CCP. There was at one point when I would have agreed with you, during the mayhem that Incarna expansion for EVE brought. But thanks to some sobering wake up calls from the The Council of Stellar Management(a council of players elected by the the players who are flown into Iceland twice a year to have a sit down with CCP to make sure the players are enjoying the game, address issues, and discuss ideas) and from the player base, those issues were resolved. Time and time again they show that even though money is important, players come first. Requesting to be relieved of regulations and getting it is to me a an example of that dedication.

...But yeah, they're still being overcautious with Dust.