E3...seriously...

[Manji187]

E3 2010:

Killzone 3
Gears of War 3
Crysis 2
Vanquish
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier
Rage
Bodycount
Brink
Bulletstorm
Medal of Honor
Fallout: New Vegas


*sigh*....

Guess this is what we want, right? We want to OD on FPS apparently...well..let's all fire away then shall we...until our brains rot and ooze out of our ears and nose.

Okay, that wasn't so nice...sorry. It's just that this is a serious trend...a bit too serious really. Can you imagine a future where only FPS games sell well enough and thus mainly FPS games are made? *shudders* Hey, I'm not saying people are not allowed to like FPS games...hell no. It's just....people don't eat their favorite dish every single day of their lives right?

You know Mass Effect 2 and Fallout 3? For all their talk of being RPGs...they're more FPS with RPG elements. And that's what bothers me as well...this "converting" influence FPS has over other genres. Pressing a button to stick to chest-high walls ad infinitum sound acceptable to you?

I hope this is all just a phase the industry will grow out of...I really do.

Look, having fun and not having to think about where the hell the industry is going is just fine...but unless you want "Run & Gun" to be the only game in town in a couple of years...you might want to start caring...maybe even trying to "vote with your wallet" (boycot). Cuz otherwise E3 2011 might look something like this:

Killzone 4
Gears of War 4
Crysis 3
Vanquish 2
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier 2
Medal of Honor 2
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 3
Battlefield Bad Company 3
BioShock 3
Fallout 4
Mass Effect 3
Bulletstorm 2
your by the book imitator FPS title #1-5
Maybe Bungie will decide to milk the Halo franchise for a little longer: another Halo FPS
another Red Faction title
another F.E.A.R. title

and..so...on...and on and on.

EDIT: I mean OD ing on shooters...thank you for pointing it out.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I love FPS so... yeah.
The trend is pretty much up my alley.
Also, games like GoW 3, Vanquish and Mass Effect 2 are TPS, not FPS.
Just so that you know.

 

[Gabanuka]

Biggest let down was no TES:5 How I long forthat game.

 

[IamQ]

E3 2010:

Killzone 3
Gears of War 3 third person
Crysis 2
Vanquish third person
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier partially third person
Rage
Bodycount
Brink
Bulletstorm
Medal of Honor
Fallout: New Vegas [/b]Can be played in third person as well as first person[/b]
Mass Effect 2 is also third person

*sigh*....

Guess this is what we want, right? We want to OD on FPS apparently...well..let's all fire away then shall we...until our brains rot and ooze out of our ears and nose.

Just wanted to point out a few flaws in your text. And what's so bad about the first person perspective anyway? Do you really hate it, or do you just want to follow the wagon of hating fps because it's cool?

 

[molesgallus]

I'm cool with that. Fps is about all I enjoy. Well, Fp game play, anyway. It usually ends up involving a projectile weapon of some sort. Occasionally a 3rd person is fun, if done right. However, racing, and RPG's rarely appeal to me. I like strategy games, though. We need more money spent on them...

 

[Carbonic Penguin]

I guess it's because FPS's are the easiest to design online multiplayer for, which is all the rage now. When I saw those games on E3, I ignored them (except for Goldeneye 007, the remake of the game which arguably started all of this, which you left out of the list), and concentrated on the others, namely Donkey Kong, Kirby, Little BigPlanet 2, and yeah... Also, I suppose FPS could be easier to program to be interesting, the lines of the bullets. Whereas in other games, many other things need to be put in to be as interesting (except maybe platformers...)

 

[MercurySteam]

Gears games and Mass Effect games are third person shooters btw, so I assume you mean we went OD on shooters.

Dead Space 2, Metal Gear: Rising, Red Faction: Armageddon and Deus Ex 3 aren't FPS's so there is hope yet.

 

[Manji187]

I love FPS so... yeah.
The trend is pretty much up my alley.
Also, games like GoW 3, Vanquish and Mass Effect 2 are TPS, not FPS.
Just so that you know.

Yes, you're absolutely right...but together with FPS they fall into the general Run & Gun category and they share several gameplay mechanics, like covering.

 

[Jack and Calumon]

Gamers are trying to appease their appetite until Half Life 3 arrives. Also it's hard not to be amused you missed Portal 2, I presume that was intentional. ; )

Calumon: (Oh no... I don't play first person games... think think...)I'm CUTE!

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I love FPS so... yeah.
The trend is pretty much up my alley.
Also, games like GoW 3, Vanquish and Mass Effect 2 are TPS, not FPS.
Just so that you know.

Yes, you're absolutely right...but together with FPS they fall into the general Run & Gun category and they share several gameplay mechanics, like covering.

Well, not really.
Ghost Recon is definitely not run and gun.
The games you mentioned are not that big of a part in the overall line-up of games shown at E3.
So, yeah, I guess I don't see why you would be angry seeing how there was a ton of other stuff shown and the only thing missing were RPGs.
Also,

you might want to start caring...maybe even trying to "vote with your wallet" (boycot).

You do realise that people who buy FPS like them?
And those who do not, they weren't going to buy the games anyway.

 

[Maeshone]

I honestly don't care about what kind of game I play as long as the game is good. And quite frankly, a lot of the games that are listed up there seem like genuinely good games. Sure, I wouldn't mind some more RPGs or other game-types, but they showed some of those as well. Human Revolution and The Witcher - Assassin of Kings for example.

 

[mikemart]

I didnt watch E3 so i dont know what games got announced but http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/6/16/

you left out all the nintendo games..

 

[JIst00]

While there is nothing wrong with a good FPS shooters, so few of those titles actually qualify as good FPS's Shooters.

I agree with the OP, I would like to see a more varied collection of genre's, yes I understand that business practice dictates that you want to produce a product that will sell very well, but I think the focus remains too havily embedded on that fact. Its not all about making vast sums of oney (to me at least), but about maiing works that will stand the test of time, redifine and expand upon existing genre's and raise the bar of quality. I do not believe that endless sequels achieve this, for example Call of Duy: 102974 : Shoot People in the Face 45785.

 

[PurpleLeafRave]

Biggest let down was no TES:5 How I long forthat game.

I just hope they've actually started making it, and they aren't concentrating on another Fallout.

Like the OP said, too many shooters. I wan't sword and magic and bow action dammit! As well as many other weapons to bludgeon people to death with.

 

[Manji187]

E3 2010:

Killzone 3
Gears of War 3 third person
Crysis 2
Vanquish third person
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier partially third person
Rage
Bodycount
Brink
Bulletstorm
Medal of Honor
Fallout: New Vegas [/b]Can be played in third person as well as first person[/b]
Mass Effect 2 is also third person

*sigh*....

Guess this is what we want, right? We want to OD on FPS apparently...well..let's all fire away then shall we...until our brains rot and ooze out of our ears and nose.

Just wanted to point out a few flaws in your text. And what's so bad about the first person perspective anyway? Do you really hate it, or do you just want to follow the wagon of hating fps because it's cool?

I don't hate it...I own ME2 CE for PC and enjoy it a lot. I meant shooters in general...i've edited my original post.

The reason I posted is that this... IMHO is an innovation stiffling trend. Innovation in the same genre is not true innovation. So they might tweak the cover mechanics...the basic idea is still the same and will remain the same. You will still be killing countless opponents..whether they're alien, mutant or terrorist...you will still have to save the world, a country, a fellow combatant...

Don't you see? In essence it's all the same...the graphics can look different/ better (for the magpies among us)...the controls can vary...the perspective can vary...but you're still playing the same damn game over and over again. Go there, kill that, drive there, kill final boss...woohoo you saved whatever that needed saving.

 

[Latinidiot]

Sir, this is a trend. trends pass. buy the games that you like, play them, enjoy them, for you'll not have enough money or time to buy the entire line up of every year. simply stand buy and watch as time passes and recycles old concepts again.


LIKE MOTHERFUCKING ELDER SCROLLSS

Bethesda!

WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!

 

[Woodsey]

For Christ's sake, just because ME2 isn't as balls-deep in skill points as Dragon Age and the combat is actually good and works doesn't mean it's a shooter with RPG elements. Borderlands is a shooter with RPG elements.

Anyway, half the games you mentioned aren't FPS's. And for starters, Crysis 2 won't be much like CoD at all apart from the camera perspective.

 

[Jiefu]

Several of the games in this topic are as much shooters as they are other genres. New Vegas, as a Fallout game, will fall heavily in the RPG field as well - although Obsidian is making it so the bugs could push it into the puzzle genre. Mass Effect is just an action RPG with guns instead of the more typical melee weapons (and some realistic technology and not-so-realistic technology to replace magic). Guns are the main form of modern combat, so don't expect them to disappear any time soon - and there will always be Star Wars games coming out if one does dislike guns (sure, Star Wars *has* guns, but who wants to play as the lamer stuck with a blaster when you can be a Jedi?)

 

[ThatFanBoyGuy]

I get what you mean Manji, and I had the same perspective

E3 2010:

Killzone 3
Gears of War 3 third person
Crysis 2
Vanquish third person
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier partially third person
Rage
Bodycount
Brink
Bulletstorm
Medal of Honor
Fallout: New Vegas [/b]Can be played in third person as well as first person[/b]
Mass Effect 2 is also third person

*sigh*....

Guess this is what we want, right? We want to OD on FPS apparently...well..let's all fire away then shall we...until our brains rot and ooze out of our ears and nose.

Just wanted to point out a few flaws in your text. And what's so bad about the first person perspective anyway? Do you really hate it, or do you just want to follow the wagon of hating fps because it's cool?

I got what you mean, Manji. I had the same response, too. "oh look, another shooter game." And yes, while while there is a wagon of "I hate FPS" I think there is a bigger wagon of "I love FPS" and it seemed game developers took advantage of that. I've heard people give Nintendo give a lot of lip because they were just appeasing to the fanboys, by making another Zelda, another Metroid, another Kirby, another Donkey Kong, another Mario sports, and another Golden Eye. But really XBox did the same thing. The 360 appeased to their fanboys by having another Halo, another Call of Duty, another Gears of War, another Medal of Honor, another Fallout. Maybe that's why I like Assassin's Creed Multiplayer - a multiplayer game that isn't merely shooting at your opponents.

 

[Keava]

Question is. What would you rather like to see?
FPP/TPP games make best use of nowadays hardware, so they can offer eye candy with quite an easy programming setup that doesnt involve reinventing the wheel.

With RTSes the problem is always was, and most likely will be decent AI, majority of Hard modes in RTSes is just Computer having more units/more resources/faster build times etc. to artificially ramp up difficulty. They dont get more strategic.

RPGs usually involve a lot of work, all the dialogs, choices, possibilities, endless hours of writing first the paper version of it and then transferring it into lines of code, and if you do idiotic plot, people will complain.

Shooters are the easiest genre to make. All you need is graphics, few interesting levels that are relatively small and a gun or two. Most engines and by default set up for a shooter. Plot is secondary, all that counts is action and that you can headshot people from afar. Physics are already done, you just change some math here and there.

So first point is lazyness. Less work - same money. Why bother?

Other thing is, most of players are shooter crowd. Strategy is niche, not enough action, RPG is for nerds who wet their pants due to few lines of dialog. Shooters are for manly man and teenagers to spew their rage over the internets. Thats the price we pay for gaming industry being popular.
Same happened to MMO genre. Pre-WoW developers where trying new things for the few poeple that bothered, post WoW, you got casual gameplay being primary aspect of nearly every production.