EA and Valve are Pretty Similar
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The developers provide excellent customer service, the customer service staff... not so much. I don't think I've ever got a response from Steam Support that wasn't copy-pasted from a tangentially related page from the Knowledge Base until about a week into the ticket. Even if I specifically say that I read what it says to do on the site and it didn't work they'll send me a copy-paste of it and ask me to try it.Lilani said:Yeah, considering Valve has a rabid fanbase willing to die for it and EA has a rabid hatebase ready to burn their HQ down at any momentThis is because in spite of its long delays, Valve actually provides good customer service in the meantime.
Op your post was just pure awesome. Thank you for that.
The quest for money is always a common trait in gaming companies.
I think Valve makes more educated decisions by taking their time rather than having many of the rushed problems EA faces.
I think EA and Activision are much more similar rather than EA and Valve.
The quest for money is always a common trait in gaming companies.
I think Valve makes more educated decisions by taking their time rather than having many of the rushed problems EA faces.
I think EA and Activision are much more similar rather than EA and Valve.
The main difference between EA and Valve is that Steam provides plenty of third-party games while Origin only provides EA releases. This might not seem very significant (apart from the fact that Steam gets a bigger library), but it means that a lot of money that goes through Steam actually ends up in the pocket of third party producers/developers. So while Origin gives every cent back to EA, Steam only gives a fraction of the profit to Valve unless the game is Valve made.
What this means in practice is that EA will want to cram every cent out of Origin, because every sale made is pure profit. Valve on the other hand only gets a part of the profit from Steam and are thus better off selling loads of games as every sale is a small profit but the profit for Valve probably doesn't differ that much between $60 games and $10 games.
In essence: Origin is a producer service, while Steam is mostly a middle-man service. EA makes money out of selling their own games, Valve makes money out of selling other people's games.
What this means in practice is that EA will want to cram every cent out of Origin, because every sale made is pure profit. Valve on the other hand only gets a part of the profit from Steam and are thus better off selling loads of games as every sale is a small profit but the profit for Valve probably doesn't differ that much between $60 games and $10 games.
In essence: Origin is a producer service, while Steam is mostly a middle-man service. EA makes money out of selling their own games, Valve makes money out of selling other people's games.
Yes but one of the primary things to remember as a consumer is that companies try to make money so if they do somthing that pleases you buy the product related to how they pleased you so they are more likely to do it again.chimpzy said:
The biggest problem with Origin is price to be honest. I think Jim Sterling mentioned it a while ago. They charge full retail price for digital copies of games despite not having to cover the costs of producing a manual (or the shitty pamphlet we get from them now), packaging, distribution, storage, retailer percentage etc.
They don't get it, surely a digital download cannot cost as much to produce as a boxed product. So how can it be priced the same?
If they want to maximise their profits fair enough, what business doesn't? But you can do that without taking the piss out of your customers (and your developers).
If they make £30 from a £50 boxed game, (I've plucked these numbers out of the air!) then surely they'd make £30 from a £40 digital download. Even a saving of 20% on standard retail prices would increase sales, as people would rather download a game at a saving of 20% than buy a boxed retail version at full price.
Anyway, my ranting 1st post is over!
They don't get it, surely a digital download cannot cost as much to produce as a boxed product. So how can it be priced the same?
If they want to maximise their profits fair enough, what business doesn't? But you can do that without taking the piss out of your customers (and your developers).
If they make £30 from a £50 boxed game, (I've plucked these numbers out of the air!) then surely they'd make £30 from a £40 digital download. Even a saving of 20% on standard retail prices would increase sales, as people would rather download a game at a saving of 20% than buy a boxed retail version at full price.
Anyway, my ranting 1st post is over!
That was hilarious Though Brotherhood didn't have a hookblade and Assassin's is Ubi so I don't know why EA would like it.
When I noticed John Rowrowrowyourboat and glanced back up at his names, I burst out laughing
But yeah, great non-fiction script of the HQ of both publishers!
Though Brotherhood didn't have a hookblade and Assassin's is Ubi so I don't know why EA would like it.When I noticed John Rowrowrowyourboat and glanced back up at his names, I burst out laughing
But yeah, great non-fiction script of the HQ of both publishers!
I'm sorry... What?Sean Hollyman said:
I find that being able to buy games... at home... online... without even having to put on pants.. for about twenty five cents on the dollar is god's gift to my personal gaming experience.
The only drawback is I can't meet my old high school friends at Fry's and then hook up and smoke pot with them later. Which is a detriment to my smoking pot and socializing... which gives me more time for gaming. Which only serves to further strengthen my argument.
OP is the biggest retard in the world. Know why? He thinks Gabe Newell hungers for human flesh. You moron, it's common knowledge the source of Gabe Newells power are ZEBRA CAKES. Sheezus, get it right!
It's not that hard: Gabe Newell eats ZEBRA CAKES, his body converts them into PRECIOUS GOO, which increases his girth, which makes him sweat more, and his sweat contains mind control pheromones. Seriously, this is 3rd grade syllabus were talkin' about here.
It's not that hard: Gabe Newell eats ZEBRA CAKES, his body converts them into PRECIOUS GOO, which increases his girth, which makes him sweat more, and his sweat contains mind control pheromones. Seriously, this is 3rd grade syllabus were talkin' about here.
So which do you think happens more? Valve screwing up, or EA doing something right.Loonyyy said:
Off the top of my head, the most egregious thing I can think of with Valve is adding crates to TF2 while it was not a free-to-play game. Every one of my crate drops could have been another item. The whole L4D2 and Portal 2 fiascos didn't even phase me, because they were both quality full games. Expecting them to give them away as free content/DLCs is just being entitled.
The best thing I can remember about EA is they were kinda honest in one interview I read recently.
Damn, that was a good read, although I disagree with you. Valve is pretty indie when compared to EA.
The new Source Filmmaker Valve are kind enough to let go for free made me fall in love with them even more.
The new Source Filmmaker Valve are kind enough to let go for free made me fall in love with them even more.
You're absolutely right!FelixG said:
I would like to take this chance to personally thank Valve for their tireless and constant struggle towards bringing us closer to a world without pants!
You realize that every Valve game has not only made them lot's of money, but that they've also releassed at least one game a year for the last six years (or at least will be whe the new CS and DOTA 2 are out). For all of the talk about Valve time and being inefficient, that's a pretty fast and consistent release schedule. The only reason people complain is because none of those games were HL2:E3 or HL3.The Lazy Blacksmith said:
Valve are going to charge 15$ for CS:GO. EA would have charged 60$ + pack of DLC with one weapon in each for additional 60$. Yeah, it's quite the same.
My fear is... What happens when everybody gives all their money and support to Valve? Will they simply rise to take EA's place as they start gobbling up game studios and IPs?
Let's be honest: Valve has all but monopolized digital distribution already. Calling them "indie" just to be technical is like calling a full-grown dog a "puppy".
Let's be honest: Valve has all but monopolized digital distribution already. Calling them "indie" just to be technical is like calling a full-grown dog a "puppy".
I'd be very surprised if there's a gif used more on the escapist. It just suits so many posts!Hazy992 said:This gif has so many uses! It's so resourceful!Binnsyboy said:
OT: I see a shitstorm of valve fanboys approaching.
Ummm Brotherhood didn't have hookblade, revelations did.Revelations was average, brotherhood was above average.
Assassin's Creed: Revelations had the hookblade, not Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.The Lazy Blacksmith said: