Fortunately, the people that put out the quotes and interviews aren't the people that make the game. Just sayin'. =)InterAirplay said:
EA Calls Gran Turismo 5 "Sterile"
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NFS shift is critically shit. It runs on the same crappy engine as NFS Carbon, all the cars textures look awful. To make matters worst the frame rate can collaspe, however it's not a bad game, nor a good one. Racedriver grid comparing to Shift is a whole different game. it follows the same direction as Shift (being a proffessional driver)and being semi-realistic but is so much nicer to drive, the gameplay in Shift wasn't good.
Half of the thrill of driving games is what your car looks like your driving, that's where Turismo and GRID excel, not Shift.
Half of the thrill of driving games is what your car looks like your driving, that's where Turismo and GRID excel, not Shift.
Ah but for simpletons like myself who just want to drive really fast without tampering with menus, NFS is a dream. You see you could just hit the maximize everything button and be on your merry way to driving really fast and wrecking other people's shit...just as God intendedAzrealMaximillion said:
Nailed it, right there. Good job sir, call it a day and join me in counting the hours until TOMORROW.Logan Westbrook said:
I read it more as
EA, "we have, like, 62 cars, 12 are new....BUT WE DO THE RACING BETTER!!!1"
Make underground3, and we'll talk, but right now the next two driving games I'm getting are GT5 and TDU:2
I want to realistic cars in a realistic closed-curcuit enviroment.
not 'pretend race driver' I know what that's like, thank you very much, and Its not quite as much fun, outside of the racing seat.
GT5 gives what I want, shift just doesn't. and a sequel will almost definitely not change that.
EA, "we have, like, 62 cars, 12 are new....BUT WE DO THE RACING BETTER!!!1"
Make underground3, and we'll talk, but right now the next two driving games I'm getting are GT5 and TDU:2
I want to realistic cars in a realistic closed-curcuit enviroment.
not 'pretend race driver' I know what that's like, thank you very much, and Its not quite as much fun, outside of the racing seat.
GT5 gives what I want, shift just doesn't. and a sequel will almost definitely not change that.
Until reading this thread, I didn't even realize that NFS:HP was out yet! What I did know is that GT5 is released today, and that is what I will be buying. Honestly, I will probably get NFS:HP in a few weeks; I do like the games but the last few have just been ok IMHO.
Honestly the only racing games that grabbed my interest were Dirt and Dirt 2. Always found the GT and NFS series kinda dry.
Hey Soderlund, at least Polyphony didn't misspell "Shit" on their game cover. Seriously, educate your team as to what dampers do and maybe have them figure out what oversteer and understeer is before you start slinging mud.
AMEN!MR T3D said:
I suppose Codemasters is just sitting around twiddling their thumbs at this point. "Real racecar driver"? Shift? ...or GT? DIRT and GRiD are the only games I've seen that captured that feeling.
...though I'll still be getting GT5 for the pure simulation experience.
...though I'll still be getting GT5 for the pure simulation experience.
Oddly enough these comments sound pretty similar to the GT5 reviews that I've been reading; that for all of its gorgeousness and attention to detail, the actual driving part of the game is kind of messy. Doubtful that Shift 2 will really be a game-changer or anything, but more fun? Maybe.
Played GT5 in 3d 1080P on a 55 inch television my friend's parents bought on a whim and I gotta say...it's the prettiest game I've ever seen. The 3d is bogus though...I could only notice a moderate 3d effect on the HUD and the car demo videos. I'm not a huge fan of 3d, never have been, so this doesn't bother me. What does bother me is that I hate the gameplay. I'm not a huge fan of racing games, and when I do play them I like to run cars off the road, hear the crashing sound of metal against metal, and love to watch my car burst into flames after crashing 200 mph into a wall. But in GT5, the collisions that occur are absolutely horrid. You hit the back right tire of a guy going 130, and you hear the same "thunk" that a bumper car would make going 15 mph, and the car barely flinches. There's no damage to the car, and your car is still pristine. The only thing that seems to get damaged is your tires, and I refuse to race around a track enough times for my tires to need a pit stop. That is just tedious work.
In summary, GT5 is Car-porn. The developers are afraid to put even a scratch on one of their 1000+ cars, because then the game wouldn't look as aesthetically pleasing. They spent so much time working on the shiny look of the car, that the gameplay suffered.
In summary, GT5 is Car-porn. The developers are afraid to put even a scratch on one of their 1000+ cars, because then the game wouldn't look as aesthetically pleasing. They spent so much time working on the shiny look of the car, that the gameplay suffered.
Unholykrumpet, if that's what you enjoy, I suggest NSF: Shift then as your next game as it allows you to play both the simulation style and that "run people off the road" fun that Split/Second and Burnout have.
My feeling on the whole matter is wondering if anyone can get both factors of those games into one. I understand what EA's talking about in how games like Gran Tourismo and Forza Motorsports seem "sterile". Gameplay wise they ARE the ultimate in ultra-realistic driving games that put years and years into making sure every car looks immaculate, that they all drive differently in some degree and look beautiful... But the driving just feels so... "floaty". When I'm in the driver's view of the car, everything is almost perfectly still, I can feel my controller shaking and vibrating with every slide and rough pavement yet it shows nothing on screen, as if the in-game driver was just sitting in some very well designed arcade cabinet.
On the other hand, Shift seems to be the exact opposite, at least to my friend who has been playing Sim-Racing games for most of his life. There's tremendous steering lag, even when you turn the intentional lag off completely, any amount of traction control will kill any speed through corners, the tires screech with every turn when in real life they'll only do that when you lose grip in them, the driving line to help you find the right corners is broken, I could go on. But I can forgive all that because when you're in the driver's seat, you feel like your RACING! In Forza, your announcer and aid sounds more like a butler than a pit manager, dealing out races to you as if asking for your choice of tea and biscuits. In NSF: Shift, the guy sounds like he's had years of experience, giving you encouragement, telling you what every upgrade's going to do to your vehicle (the only real break in realism in that regard is that unlike the demo, your pit manager doesn't give you a break-down of the track's layout). And that's before you even hit the gas! When you're in Shift, the car shakes and vibrates, as you speed up your vision dims as everything around you goes out of focus except for the road in front of you. When you get hit by someone or take a turn wrong and hit a barrier, your car lurches forward, your vision goes out and turns blurry, feeling every like you got hit by an elephant. Shift just has that feeling of driving that "The Ultimate Driving Simulation" doesn't have, period!
... Still, I'd rather play GT5 then Shift anyways. Stupid game telling me a fully upgraded Nissan Skyline can't run against a Murciélago... Rubbish.
My feeling on the whole matter is wondering if anyone can get both factors of those games into one. I understand what EA's talking about in how games like Gran Tourismo and Forza Motorsports seem "sterile". Gameplay wise they ARE the ultimate in ultra-realistic driving games that put years and years into making sure every car looks immaculate, that they all drive differently in some degree and look beautiful... But the driving just feels so... "floaty". When I'm in the driver's view of the car, everything is almost perfectly still, I can feel my controller shaking and vibrating with every slide and rough pavement yet it shows nothing on screen, as if the in-game driver was just sitting in some very well designed arcade cabinet.
On the other hand, Shift seems to be the exact opposite, at least to my friend who has been playing Sim-Racing games for most of his life. There's tremendous steering lag, even when you turn the intentional lag off completely, any amount of traction control will kill any speed through corners, the tires screech with every turn when in real life they'll only do that when you lose grip in them, the driving line to help you find the right corners is broken, I could go on. But I can forgive all that because when you're in the driver's seat, you feel like your RACING! In Forza, your announcer and aid sounds more like a butler than a pit manager, dealing out races to you as if asking for your choice of tea and biscuits. In NSF: Shift, the guy sounds like he's had years of experience, giving you encouragement, telling you what every upgrade's going to do to your vehicle (the only real break in realism in that regard is that unlike the demo, your pit manager doesn't give you a break-down of the track's layout). And that's before you even hit the gas! When you're in Shift, the car shakes and vibrates, as you speed up your vision dims as everything around you goes out of focus except for the road in front of you. When you get hit by someone or take a turn wrong and hit a barrier, your car lurches forward, your vision goes out and turns blurry, feeling every like you got hit by an elephant. Shift just has that feeling of driving that "The Ultimate Driving Simulation" doesn't have, period!
... Still, I'd rather play GT5 then Shift anyways. Stupid game telling me a fully upgraded Nissan Skyline can't run against a Murciélago... Rubbish.
