EA Confirms No Battlefield 3 on Steam

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SgtFoley said:
Alphakirby said:
Now that it's not on Steam,I officially don't give a shit about it. Because I am not downloading EA's stupid ass attempt to trump Valve just to play a first person shooter.
Congratulations for not reading the article.
^Some people only read the heading and imagine the rest of the article.
 

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Already pre-ordered on Origin and Origin itself isn't half as bad a service as everyone is saying it is. Just because it's EA doesn't automatically mean it's rubbish, try using it before making a comment.

So, in short, this doesn't affect me in the slightest.
 

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doggie015 said:
JustaGigolo said:
OH NOES!!!

I can't play my generic modern war shooter on Steam. What shall I ever do?
Dude; EA is behind Battlefield 3. Not Call Of Generic: Modern Blandfare 3

But Modern Blandfare 3 is looking rather attractive now because it's on steam...
It's not good when the only promising thing you can say about a game is 'well at least it isn't this game'.

Yeah, I'm not getting it then until after Christmas...unless of course MW3 distracts me, which it could easily do. Bad move EA
 

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A few months after release of BF3 we'll probably see.

EA: "Due to the poor performance of the most recent battlefield game, we are discontinuing the franchise."
 

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James Raynor said:
A few months after release of BF3 we'll probably see.

EA: "Due to the poor performance of the most recent battlefield game, we are discontinuing the franchise."
That would be a sad day in gaming.
 

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Amazon it is then. It'll be the first retail game I've bought in a while. Though I think EA are making a big mistake by doing this.
 

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James Raynor said:
A few months after release of BF3 we'll probably see.

EA: "Due to the poor performance of the most recent battlefield game, we are discontinuing the franchise."
I'd say it's more likely we'll see them choose to focus on console development after the PC version fails to sell as well as expected.
 

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ph0b0s123 said:
So before all the steam lovers start bashing EA. This is not EA's fault as the article says the game will be available on many different on-line services, just not steam. So it is not like EA are trying to make it exclusive so they can put others out of business. The real issue is Steam's terms being more restrictive than other on-line services.
Ah you silly man.

Yes they can have their way with other services because they can't stand up to EA.
Steam has the same restrictions as XBL or PSN, which EA also can't bend to their will but oddly doesn't mention, they just bash Steam in every public outing to get more water on their own mill.
 

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"The service limits our ability to deliver patches and downloadable content directly to players. No other download service has adopted these practices. At EA, supporting our players is a top priority, and we are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our own consumers"

F you EA....thats EXACTLY what steam is...

I turn on my steam, and I see it updating games i havent played on in 4 years...just in case i do want to play them

While they havent 100% lost my purchase, ill definately be waiting for the bargain bin with this one, i guess i gotta bite the bullet and buy another COD game, something I was praying BF3 would convince me otherwise
 

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bahumat42 said:
The Reverend said:
Alphakirby said:
Now that it's not on Steam,I officially don't give a shit about it. Because I am not downloading EA's stupid ass attempt to trump Valve just to play a first person shooter.
You dont need Origin to play BF3, you can buy retail (or from another service) and play it without ever touching Origin.

Honestly, I've dl'ed origin, and can see no problems with it as yet. And some competition to Steam is never a bad thing. Capitalism folks, get used to it.

Unless you live in China or North Korea.
its not that origin is a bad thing (which it is, but thats the whole charging for redownloads and generally being shit) its more the hassle of having yet another pile of software i need to run, and im not willing to put up with that just to play a game. Which is a shame, because modern warfare needs a real competitor to ensure the future of fps will keep growning past its current stale state.

*shrugs*

oh wells guess im pre ordering saints row 3 instead, regardless of bugginess.

*fun edit*

ooo can i confirm no battlefield 3 on my PC xD
But surely if people wont gove other distribution platforms a chance, there will be no real competitors able to gain as much popularity as steam.
I remember all the hate that steam went through when it was first released, and look at it now. All these platforms are gonna have teething problems, but like peace, we must give them a chance!
 

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TitsMcGee1804 said:
"The service limits our ability to deliver patches and downloadable content directly to players. No other download service has adopted these practices. At EA, supporting our players is a top priority, and we are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our own consumers"

F you EA....thats EXACTLY what steam is...

I turn on my steam, and I see it updating games i havent played on in 4 years...just in case i do want to play them

While they havent 100% lost my purchase, ill definately be waiting for the bargain bin with this one, i guess i gotta bite the bullet and buy another COD game, something I was praying BF3 would convince me otherwise
So you're going to go back to the no dedicated servers, fifteen dollar map packs with no new weapons or vehicles (Or any vehicles at all), no new major updates to graphics or gameplay, continuing to support a publisher with draconian policies towards it's employees, and legions of swearing 13 year olds because it doesn't have your favorite form of DRM on it? If you don't want to support EA or get the game fine, but that seems like kind of a silly reason.

You don't need to install Origin and you can still get it from all of the other digital distribution sites. This is like being mad you can't buy the new Justin Bieber CD at Walmart. You have to go any other retailer that isn't Walmart.

And EA dared to passively aggressively criticize Steam or dared to challenge Steam by making it's ow digital distribution platform, so now everyone's breaking out the pitchforks and torches for that? When did Valve fans turn into Apple fans? I don't know what EA and Valves's issues are with each other and frankly I don't care. It doesn't affect my ability get the games I want. It doesn't affect anyone else's ability either.

But if you really are that serious I guess I won't see you on the Battlefield then.
 

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CD-R said:
You don't need to install Origin and you can still get it from all of the other digital distribution sites.
My money is still on having Origin as part of the install no matter where you purchase from.
If there is an official statement saying you wont, could you source me up please?
Not that I am bothered either way anyway.
 

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CD-R said:
no dedicated servers
I hated the idea of no dedicated servers, then I realised i prefered the devs to make the rules and not the admins...it made for great balance and newbie friendly gameplay, dedicated servers make the game too faffy
CD-R said:
fifteen dollar map packs
If i dont think i will get my moneys worth, i wont buy them
CD-R said:
with no new weapons or vehicles (Or any vehicles at all),
I dont like vehicle combat in online FPS's, its clunky and adds complication to what should be a straightforward gunwank multiplayer game, I play starcraft for complexity, i play FPS's to shut of my brain and shoot people in the face

CD-R said:
no new major updates to graphics or gameplay,
I dont expect them to update the graphics and the gameplay...graphics are not important to me and as long as the gameplay is tight why would i want them to change it?
CD-R said:
continuing to support a publisher with draconian policies towards it's employees
I hate activision too, but as long as they make their game fun, i dont care how they treat their employee's...every single industry on earth has good and bad places to work, its the way the world turns
CD-R said:
, and legions of swearing 13 year olds
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This has never been a problem for me in MW2, in fact i prefer these to the entitled admins who give you 'warnings' whenever you dont follow the rules...i get enough rules at work, why the hell am i playing a game that feels like im back at school

CD-R said:
because it doesn't have your favorite form of DRM on it? If you don't want to support EA or get the game fine, but that seems like kind of a silly reason.
favourite form of DRM? I dont want ANY drm on my games, its just i have a library of 150+ games on steam and i found the blatant bullshit coming from EA about 'DLC issues' pathetic, all im doing is voting with my wallet

and before you ask, yes I am a Valve fanboy - but hey, 12+ years of free updates, fantastic games and fun times really goes a long way when taking sides in these arguments
 

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Dexter111 said:
klasbo said:
Dexter111 said:
It won't take any of your experience away as Battlefield has always had Stat Tracking/Achievements/Friends List/Clan Support/Voice [...]
(Emphasis mine)
This is the sequel to BF2 and 1942, and the Bad Company games aren't "true" battlefield games (something DICE themselves have said several times). Neither BF2 or 1942 had Achievements, friends list or clan support, and 1942 didn't have voice or stats. No BF game has ever had clan support.

You've been setting other people's facts straight (thumbs up, +rep or equivalent), so this time it's my turn ;)

Anyway guys, Battlefield 3 will suck because it's basically Bad Company Two and a Half, not because it isn't available on your monopolized digital distribution service.
You forgot Battlefield Vietnam and BF2142 which nobody bought because it was shit, upon which DICE turned to consoles xD

Battlefield 2 certainly had "Achievements", e.g. http://bf2s.com/player/59173458/
Look at all the Badges/Medals/Ribbons which are basically nothing else. Also I'm not sure what you are reffering to when you say "Clan Support" but I'm pretty sure that you could both make and keep a Clan Server in any Battlefield game and from 2 onwards it was very much possible to add a separate Clan-Tag/Prefixes to your name and a few other things.

Friends List true, but the latest Bad Company game did have them.
In no order:

The badges/ribbons etc aren't "achievements" in the modern sense (ie some metagaming thing that requires you to play the game in an oddly specific way to get), but rather a part of the stats system (get kill streaks/spend x amount of time doing y).

Vietnam and 2142 are not "proper" Battlefield games, they are more like intermediate titles between 1942 and 2, and 2 and 3 respectively. The two games are also basically mods on the previous game. You can even load BF2 maps into 2142 with little hassle... Heroes and play4free are their own thing, and the Bad Company series are also their own thing.

You could never create a "clan server", but you could reserve spots on servers based on player ID. Clan-tags is a feature that was added to BF2 in a later patch, and no BF game has ever had a proper clan/team system, like for example Massgate (World in Conflict).

2142 also had a friends list, but this thing was so broken it was faster and more efficient to just use xfire...
 

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Dexter111 said:
You don't need to use Origin to play Battlefield 3.
Getting a Retail copy or just using any of the other half a dozen Digital Distributors out there it will appear on like Direct2Drive or GamersGate will do the trick just fine.
natster43 said:
Still doesn't effect me because retail exists. Hooray for physical copies.
GeorgW said:
Yeah, I agree that it's silly to not just get a physical copy or use Origin (from what I hear Origin is actually quite nice, it usually has the best pre-order stuff and no client required.)
But still, it's a stupid business move, but I get why they did it, see below.
I would just like to point you, and several dozen other posters, to the following:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1187538p1.html

So...what was that about just buying a retail copy and skipping this whole Origin debacle?

As I have said all along. I didn't really have a problem with Battlefield 3 not being sold on Steam. (disappointed, yes. but not bothered) What I DO have issue with is this blatant smear campaign EA has going to besmirch Valve and Steam. Putting Valve in tight spots and limiting the quality of the titles Steam has access to. Then, after Valve acts accordingly (in the interest of providing the best experience for their users), EA turns around and paints Valve as the bad guys and themselves as the victims. Even then, if Valve did go along with this EA bullshit, EA then points out how much "better" their Origin version of a game is compared to Steams.

It's obnoxious. It's juvenile. It's devious and twisted. And, it's the primary reason I'm no longer that anxious to try Battlefield 3. At least, on PC.
 

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Vigormortis said:
Dexter111 said:
You don't need to use Origin to play Battlefield 3.
Getting a Retail copy or just using any of the other half a dozen Digital Distributors out there it will appear on like Direct2Drive or GamersGate will do the trick just fine.
natster43 said:
Still doesn't effect me because retail exists. Hooray for physical copies.
GeorgW said:
Yeah, I agree that it's silly to not just get a physical copy or use Origin (from what I hear Origin is actually quite nice, it usually has the best pre-order stuff and no client required.)
But still, it's a stupid business move, but I get why they did it, see below.
I would just like to point you, and several dozen other posters, to the following:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1187538p1.html

So...what was that about just buying a retail copy and skipping this whole Origin debacle?

As I have said all along. I didn't really have a problem with Battlefield 3 not being sold on Steam. (disappointed, yes. but not bothered) What I DO have issue with is this blatant smear campaign EA has going to besmirch Valve and Steam. Putting Valve in tight spots and limiting the quality of the titles Steam has access to. Then, after Valve acts accordingly (in the interest of providing the best experience for their users), EA turns around and paints Valve as the bad guys and themselves as the victims. Even then, if Valve did go along with this EA bullshit, EA then points out how much "better" their Origin version of a game is compared to Steams.

It's obnoxious. It's juvenile. It's devious and twisted. And, it's the primary reason I'm no longer that anxious to try Battlefield 3. At least, on PC.
To be fair, those comments were made before that news broke.
Nevertheless, welcome to the world of EA marketing!