EA Delays New BioWare IP to FY 2019
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You also have to admit that most people dont care/know about individual brances. It was created by Bioware, has thier name on it, and will Forever be attributed and remembered as being a Bioware game. They put thier name on it, reflecting that as a company they stand behind this product.Hawki said:
Bioware approved it
And in this day and age when hyping the crap out of something so they can shove those pre orders and season passes down our throats based on nothing but doctored footage that only shows the best pre rendered strung together footage is a totally normal and ok thing now. We Literally have nothing to go on but the Developer and game francises name, to intuit how a game will turn out-
So I will remember
Bioware approved it.
I think that's being unfair for a number of reasons:littlebunnyfuufuu said:
-EA gets to slap on the BioWare label. Remember BioWare Victory? If you don't, I don't blame you, because it was soon rebranded to "Victory Games," and was disbanded along with Generals 2.
-BioWare is unlikely to have complete control over what they develop. Publishers have the right to ask their in-house developers to work on whatever, regardless of how said developers feel. It doesn't make the game immune from criticism, but it can shift some of the blame from the developer to the publisher.
Heck, they could put it on hold until 2079 for all the attention I'm going to give it.
Andromeda is proof that Bioware is never going to try ever again, and the company will hopefully fade into obscurity, if we're lucky.
Andromeda is proof that Bioware is never going to try ever again, and the company will hopefully fade into obscurity, if we're lucky.
They'll be shuttered by EA long before that happens. Give it one more disappointing launch and EA will do what EA does.Cold Shiny said:
The problem with putting ME3's combat into the first game is that it would require a redesign of the levels.pearcinator said:
Cover is relatively spartan in the first game, with shields actually being effective and the enemies tied to the same dice-roll as Shepard. Compare that to the levels of 2 and 3, where there were more chest high walls than a Gears of War game, shields were as effective as wrapping yourself in wet tissue paper and every enemy (with the exception of heavy weapons) had pointpoint accuracy.
I really can't see EA seeing it as a viable option when backwards compatibility on consoles is gaining them new sales at no extra cost to them. Remaster? Why when there are a wealth of PC users making high resolution textures for free.
Plus would they really want to effectively discount all the DLC, when they can still get people to pay full price for it.
It was Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 2 which showed me that the Bioware I'd loved was fading away. They weren't bad games but it was clear that Bioware was moving away, whether by their choice or EA's, from the type of games that had gained them a following who believed that they could do no wrong.
Surely it can't just be a coincidence that 'hate' has built up around the company the further they move away from the type of games that made EA want to buy them in the first place.
Bioware is part of the beast that is EA, now ladies and gentlemen the best thing we can hope for is a quick death of it. It would be the most humane thing to do for that former great studio so it can void the long agonizing death that awaits it like others before.
Also side note, anytime you use the words "exhilarating action" you are trying to describe something which is normally a mundane, sound amazing.
"Stunning design" well that might be true, if you had never played a video game since the 70's. or is he talking about the box art?
In truth I think we all have a idea of exactly what we are getting in 2019 a MMO with Light RPG elements that have you using a gun of so sorts with a special ability. With of course a heavy dose of micro transactions placed in good measure so EA doesn't have to work hard.
Also side note, anytime you use the words "exhilarating action" you are trying to describe something which is normally a mundane, sound amazing.
"Stunning design" well that might be true, if you had never played a video game since the 70's. or is he talking about the box art?
In truth I think we all have a idea of exactly what we are getting in 2019 a MMO with Light RPG elements that have you using a gun of so sorts with a special ability. With of course a heavy dose of micro transactions placed in good measure so EA doesn't have to work hard.
It's a goddamn shame is what it is. Like Pearcinator above, I *really* wanted to like this game: I'm an absolute raging fanboy for the original trilogy, the kind of blindZhukov said:
Err....sorry to have talked your ears off with my pseudo-review, but I missed the release-day threads due to university!
That's actually a good point, I keep getting that impression too. It's almost paradoxical really, like a half-hearted collection of gameplay styles from each of the originals mashed together: combat that's halfway between 1 and 3, an improved yet worsened Mako substitute (handles better then the Mako but still feels very wonky and clumsy to me, and the lack of armaments - and inability to effectively run people over - turns field trips into plodding stop-out-shoot-loot-in repetition), just about every side-quest reduced to bog-standard fetch-quests (especially painful after all the times preview material said they were looking to Witcher 3 for deep and meaningful side-stuff) and so many goddamn pre-fab structures everywhere! I played 3 over and over and over and over again, but I can't see myself touching Andromeda after the first playthrough is done.saluraropicrusa said:
'Sall good. It's nice to find a view that's a bit more nuanced than "It's the best/worst! Shut up!"Dragonlayer said:
I was in a somewhat similar position. I'd made my peace with the ME3 ending. I don't think the extended version fixed everything, but it at least gave a sense of closure which, upon reflection, was my main problem with the original ending.
So I was willing to meet MEA halfway and assess it on its own merits. I wasn't checking it out because it was a Mass Effect game, but because it was a sci-fi action-RPG with a decent premise.
The crummy animation and visual bugs didn't even bother me that much. I'd rather they weren't there, obviously, but I've dealt with worse. What killed it for me was the filler. You log back in and the game is all, "Time to drive around scanning for resources! Time to complete fetch quests for NPCs you will forget in 30 seconds!" Combine that with the lackluster characters and story pacing and I concluded that there are vastly more rewarding ways to spend one's leisure time.
We unfortunately live in an age where 8/10 means unplayable dreck, and people will bombard review sections with -11/10s because they want to punish the developers and fans alike for some perceived injustice, whether game, social or politically motivated so yeah, I try to offer a more useful and balanced opinion. Andromeda is perfectly functional (glitches aside, I've at least never encountered anything game breaking), enjoyable enough in its own right and I've sunk 70 hours into it this far, it's just a big disappointment as a Mass Effect game, even when I had adjusted my expectations during development. It's a good enough sci-fi action RPG....but if it didn't have the ME label, I would never have been interested enough to check it out, and because it does have the ME label, it doesn't meet my standards! And then because of that, all the little things start to add up and bug me: the conversation wheel that never seems to represent what I want to say, and then makes male Ryder say something sassy and stupid (reminds me of DA:I where I actually reloaded several times to choose new conversation lines because my character had sounded like the world's biggest twat), that all the characters seem to be moulded from the same overly lighthearted and airy, "Dude, being shot at is like, the worst part of my day!" template, that side-quests have no impact to them, even when they're about arresting murderers,Zhukov said:
Andromeda will at least make my collection of ME games and goodies complete, but I can't help thinking that I should have picked up Nioh or Titanfall 2 instead.
yeah... personally, i felt that Mass Effect was the type of series that benefited from being less open world/galaxy, not more. it needs more tight focus on the story, in my opinion.Dragonlayer said:
while i do really like some of the new characters (i'm a sucker for krogans so Drack is my favorite so far, the pilot, Kallo, is adorable, Jaal is really cool so far, Vetra's pretty badass--hell, i even like Peebee), that's not enough to keep my interest. i found that i'm just not hooked by the story (so far), and i'm not sure if that'll change. i don't find the Kett particularly compelling, i'm disappointed at the recycling of the "mysterious ancient alien civilization/technology," and the whole colonization angle isn't much in the way of motivation for me. nor is the equally recycled "you, player character, are the special human that everyone's going to answer to because you're so special."
i'm still disappointed we couldn't play as an alien in the story. ):
Sounds about right. Why do people even bother buying from EA anymore? The last game I purchased from them was NFS: Rivals Complete Edition and never looked back. Making the "reboot" online only hurt their sales, as they did not make nowhere near as much as Rivals.Jamcie Kerbizz said:
Agreed, I can't really think of anything in Andromeda that made me go "Wow!" on account of the open world mechanics. Quite the opposite in fact, the opening up of the galaxy for exploration was ultimately pointless because scanning 50 uninhabitable worlds is boring as fuck, *and* the pacing of side-quests is made even more painful by dividing them into multiple stages of "Fly to a new world, talk to someone for 50 seconds, fly to another world, do it again".saluraropicrusa said:
Eeeeh, none of the new companions really grabbed me, though none earned significant ire from me; they all just felt rather similar with endless lighthearted snark regardless of how serious the situation was (sometimes quite entertaining, sometimes infuriating). I'm also in agreement that the Kett are pretty bland, even after their "shocking" plot reveal, though I do like the look and sounds of the Remnant, poor man's Geth that they are: the Architect boss battles do have a sense of epic confrontation them, especially when you scan their husks in high-orbit and they are only damaged, not destroyed. I wouldn't mind the recycling of the ancient precursor angle so much if they actually did anything with it, but nope, it's just those bloody glyph puzzles! And as for being the brand new Pathfinder, that could have real potential from stumbling into a position of enormous responsibility, without any preparation, real training or allies, forced to make impossible decisions in a hostile galaxy - but aside from Mrs Tired Face, everyone rapidly falls into line behind Ryder who can do no wrong. There's a bit where you have to make a moral choice that impacts Drack, the decision I made got him almost foaming at the mouth in rage and about to jump ship....then five minutes later we're talking like best friends again, so so much for impossible decisions!
Indeed, that could have been a far more interesting perspective to play from!