I'm glad someone caught that joke. Considering the rumours of a Plants vs Zombies FPS that appeared shortly before the squeal announcement, we now may have the first case of a Zombified Zombie.uncanny474 said:But Pop Cap's most recognizable IP was ALREADY a zombie!Ed130 said:If you are bought by EA the company will be gutted like a fish and your IPs turned into unrecognisable zombies.
OT: It's interesting that EA is pretty much giving up the pretense of niceness at this point and admitting that they exist only to kill developers. I mean, this quote is basically the PR equivalent of putting your pinkie to your mouth, stroking a cat, and demanding one million dollars in gold bars.
INB4 class-based TF2 ripoff. Hoovey is walnut, anyone? Medic is sunflower?Ed130 said:Plants vs Zombies FPS
Yeah, but do you think the loss of those staff members is what people are complaining about? I think they are more focused on the staff that were integral to PvZ. After all, that was the loudest part of the headlines.Devoneaux said:Possibly, but folks like you need to recognize the difference between EA's crap and standard practice for corporations. When you acquire a new asset, you don't need things like a second legal team, so you get rid of it, MAYBE keep some and integrate them into your legal team if they're talented and so on.
Benefit of the doubt or not, I'm still allowed to voice my concern that they are removing key developers of PvZ without any explanation beyond redundancy, which makes no sense without the context and is not satisfactory, unless we were to assume that doing so would somehow compromise their business standing while not telling the entire truth had an entirely justifiable reason, such as finding out that the released employees were in fact, extraterrestrials planning to use mind control through popular games.Devoneaux said:There could be any number of reasons for that having occurred. I won't pretend like I know what's what over at EA HQ.
It's possible that EA are stupid and have no idea what they're doing. It is equally possible that Mr. Fan did something to compromise his own position. We just don't really know either way.
I agree. He does look like an old Harry Potter.Hero in a half shell said:I think he looks more like an ageing Harry Potter (it's the eyes!)Worgen said:That kid from Malcolm in the middle is laying people off at popcap? What the hell?
(yeah yeah I know he... might not have or whatever, but damn does he look like Frankie Muniz or whatever)
That's like saying I should familiarize myself with the difference between loose stool and diarrhea. Massive layoffs or cutbacks due to a greedy publisher cannibalizing game studios left and right should not be standard practice. This is just one of the many reasons why EA was named Worst Company in America by The Consumerist. They even beat out Bank of America, who's mortgage people are some of the worst lot I've ever had to deal with. So no, "folks like me" don't need to go along with their crap and pretend they're doing anything positive for this industry by ripping apart jobs.Devoneaux said:Possibly, but folks like you need to recognize the difference between EA's crap and standard practice for corporations. When you acquire a new asset, you don't need things like a second legal team, so you get rid of it, MAYBE keep some and integrate them into your legal team if they're talented and so on.weirdguy said:To be fair, they did just freaking lay off that guy who did the first PvZ so it's like, what logical reason would there be for that unless they somehow uploaded a copy of his brain into an android that was superior in every way to the original...Boudica said:I don't know why Escapist bothers reporting on EA news anymore. The second the average forum goer sees the words Electronic and Arts they devolve into hate spewing regurgitators of the same few lines over and over, with no care at all for the actual contents and context of the report, but for the aforementioned words.
All they have to do is keep smiling while they slowly peel away the skin, then the muscles, and the bones and the organs, and by the time a valid complaint can be lodged, it's already hanging in the butcher's window. It's not as if they haven't already done it before. You act as if these concerns and yelling are completely unfounded.
Not until 10 years ago they weren't. Software/developer buyouts only started happening en masse when our economy hit the dirt.Devoneaux said:Corporate buyouts are actually fairly common in the corporate world regardless of industry.
Um, no they aren't. Pandemic was doing fine until they were bought by EA. Then they release Mercenaries 3 and poof, goodbye.Devoneaux said:As for cannibalizing studios left and right? Moot point, those studios were likely already on their last leg.
So this is what it's like to talk to somonee who's been brainwashed. The fact that EA tries to pass itself as the sole videogame savior is terrifying enough without you going merrily along with their developer holocaust. There should be plenty of other options available to companies besides letting the bigger one gobble them up, otherwise things like Kickstarter would not exist.Devoneaux said:If they wheren't then they wouldn't agree to sell themselves to EA and the like, because it would have been more financially beneficial to remain their own entity. Almost every studio EA buys up were in some type of financial trouble and would have probably died off far earlier if not for EA.
No, they do a fine job of demonizing themselves. For fuck's sake, the evidence has been there all along. They don't give second chances, unless by "second chance" you mean "impossible deadlines" and "unfair workloads." Oh, and eventual "career deadends." Thanks to EA, we will never get to see another game from Hypnotix, NuFX, Phenomic, Bullfrog, Kesmai and Origin (now used as the name for their shitty delivery service). Kinda like if I killed one of your family members, stuffed their corpse, then asked you for money.Devoneaux said:People like to demonize EA, Activision and so on for destroying developers, but really all they do is give these developers who were already in the process of sinking a second chance with strings attached.
Yea, whatever. If this is their idea of how to run a business, I'd rather just watch AAA games die right now. Fuck EA. And fuck any company that buys up as many IPs as it can only to let them stagnate.Devoneaux said:A chance nobody else is capable of giving them. You can argue the effects of this, or if they even do it well, but that is all they are guilty of.
Cannot be unseen...Worgen said:That kid from Malcolm in the middle is laying people off at popcap? What the hell?
(yeah yeah I know he... might not have or whatever, but damn does he look like Frankie Muniz or whatever)
Origin Systems weren't in any financial difficulty, and had no intention of being bought out by any company.Devoneaux said:Corporate buyouts are actually fairly common in the corporate world regardless of industry.hooksashands said:Bile bile bile
As for cannibalizing studios left and right? Moot point, those studios were likely already on their last leg.