EA follows in Sony's footsteps, Changes EULA.

[Catchy Slogan]

Well, EA seem to have jumped on the bandwagon and changed thier EULA to prevent people from suing them. But it's not all bad news! The changes don't apply to anyone living in Quebec, Russia, Switzerland, or the Member States of the European Union.

I have no idea why it's only Quebec and not the rest of Canada. Can anyone tell me why?

Source: http://www.gamersmint.com/ea-follows-sonys-move-insert-class-action-prevention-clause-into-origins-eula

Your thoughts?

 

[fix-the-spade]

I doubt these EULA's would hold the slightest weight in an actual court case, there's already plenty of legal precedent that says tha no matter what the EULA says a publisher/service provider is still bound by US trade and data protection laws.

IIRC there's also been a few cases that say EULA's are not legally binding because no one reads them anyway...

I have no idea why it's only Quebec and not the rest of Canada. Can anyone tell me why?

Quebec is not like the rest of Canada, they like to do stuff differently...

 

[Rawne1980]

I have no idea why it's only Quebec and not the rest of Canada. Can anyone tell me why?

On October 30, 2003, the National Assembly of Quebec voted unanimously to affirm "that the people of Québec form a nation."[102] On November 27, 2006, the House of Commons passed a symbolic motion moved by Prime Minister Stephen Harper declaring "that this House recognize that the Québécois form a nation within a united Canada."[103][104][105] However, there is considerable debate and uncertainty over what this means.[106][107]
At present, nationalism plays a large role in the politics of Quebec, with all three major provincial political parties seeking greater autonomy and recognition of Quebec's unique status. In recent years, much attention has been devoted to examining and defining the nature of Quebec's association with the rest of Canada.

Just an extract that may or may not clarify a bit.

In short, Quebec sees itself as a 'nation within Canada' if that makes any sense?

Being a mainly French speaking 'nation' they follow Europe on some things.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Yay! The era of taking away consumer rights is in it's final stage. Rejoice, as the corporations take away everything from you while you just sit and watch and do nothing.

It doesn't influence me though, because our laws don't allow this. But I still care because you should stand up for your rights. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean it should stay legal. Learn the difference. It's important.

 

[CthulhuMessiah]

EA must really want me to hate them. I guess I'll do them a favor and hate them.

 

[Catchy Slogan]

I have no idea why it's only Quebec and not the rest of Canada. Can anyone tell me why?

On October 30, 2003, the National Assembly of Quebec voted unanimously to affirm "that the people of Québec form a nation."[102] On November 27, 2006, the House of Commons passed a symbolic motion moved by Prime Minister Stephen Harper declaring "that this House recognize that the Québécois form a nation within a united Canada."[103][104][105] However, there is considerable debate and uncertainty over what this means.[106][107]
At present, nationalism plays a large role in the politics of Quebec, with all three major provincial political parties seeking greater autonomy and recognition of Quebec's unique status. In recent years, much attention has been devoted to examining and defining the nature of Quebec's association with the rest of Canada.

Just an extract that may or may not clarify a bit.

In short, Quebec sees itself as a 'nation within Canada' if that makes any sense?

Being a mainly French speaking 'nation' they follow Europe on some things.

Thanks for that. It does make a lot more sense now. So it's sort of like how Scotland has some different laws than England, yet they're both a part of Great Britain. That about right?

 

[Rawne1980]

Thanks for that. It does make a lot more sense now. So it's sort of like how Scotland has some different laws than England, yet they're both a part of Great Britain. That about right?

Pretty much spot on there bud.

They are still part of Canada just see themselves as separate within it, much like Scotland yep.

 

[Richardplex]

So, raise your hand if you were surprised at EA pulling this after Sony...

 

[Mekado]

Thanks for that. It does make a lot more sense now. So it's sort of like how Scotland has some different laws than England, yet they're both a part of Great Britain. That about right?

Yeah, pretty much.

However it dosen't have much to do with this case, the thing is Quebec is the only province in Canada using a bi-juridical law system (criminal code for serious/violent crimes, civil law for "misdemeanors" or non-violent crimes) which is why some things, mostly restrictions (on warranties for example or unilaterally changing a EULA) do not apply in Quebec, because it's illegal (under civil law) here.If the manufacturer wants to sell their products/services here they have to abide by the civil law.

 

[Mekado]

double post

 

[LordLundar]

I have no idea why it's only Quebec and not the rest of Canada. Can anyone tell me why?

On October 30, 2003, the National Assembly of Quebec voted unanimously to affirm "that the people of Québec form a nation."[102] On November 27, 2006, the House of Commons passed a symbolic motion moved by Prime Minister Stephen Harper declaring "that this House recognize that the Québécois form a nation within a united Canada."[103][104][105] However, there is considerable debate and uncertainty over what this means.[106][107]
At present, nationalism plays a large role in the politics of Quebec, with all three major provincial political parties seeking greater autonomy and recognition of Quebec's unique status. In recent years, much attention has been devoted to examining and defining the nature of Quebec's association with the rest of Canada.

Just an extract that may or may not clarify a bit.

In short, Quebec sees itself as a 'nation within Canada' if that makes any sense?

Being a mainly French speaking 'nation' they follow Europe on some things.

Actually, it predates that particular incident. It actually because the province of Quebec refused to acknowledge the Canada Act, the Canadian Constitution or the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

 

[Rednog]

Battlefield 3 will be bet...oh wow...
Yea so that's how many strikes against EA for PC users? And yet people will bend over, spread, and take it with a smile.

 

[Da Orky Man]

Yay! The era of taking away consumer rights is in it's final stage. Rejoice, as the corporations take away everything from you while you just sit and watch and do nothing.

It doesn't influence me though, because our laws don't allow this. But I still care because you should stand up for your rights. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean it should stay legal. Learn the difference. It's important.

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me."

That fit it all right?

I'l be sending a few altered copies of the EULA towards EA anyway, despite it not affecting me, EU FTW!

 

[Krantos]

Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right and it doesn't mean it should stay legal. Learn the difference. It's important.

That's the thing, there are a lot of groups already saying these new EULAs won't stand up in court. So, really, it's not legal.

As someone else also pointed out, there's already been some precedent of the old EULAs not holding in court because they violate US trade laws, so expect these to be shot down the moment they're challenged.

 

[Tony2077]

i called it i said others might do this

 

[emeraldrafael]

can not wait till Microsoft does this.