EA Germany: "Origin Is Not Spyware"

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AndyFromMonday

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In case people want to play Battlefield 3 without the hassle of Origin, a crack has recently been released that bypasses Origin. This crack is only usable by those who have already bought the game and do not wish to let EA poke around their computers. It does not provide multiplayer access to cracked copies of the game. I obviously cannot provide a link to it but I'm sure if you search for Battlefield 3 on a torrent site you'll find it. I repeat, this crack does not allow you to play online using a pirated copy. You still need to log into Battlelog using your Origin account but you won't have to have Origin installed on your computer in order to start the game.
 

PingoBlack

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Funny how everyone acts as if this is news ...
We had this debate months ago! When we first saw the EULA.

And I clearly remember a number of more reasonable forumites noticing Origin EULA allows BioWare to spy on you. Legally. We also noticed only way to not sign it is to avoid EA products.

Now suddenly, everyone is surprised that it's actually true? Hell, it should have been obvious, no?

Also, let me restate this: Why the hell do you complain after signing the bloody EULA? You could have avoided any EA product in the first place, knowing their corporate practices ...
Now that you signed it you have options: Either uninstall the thing or take it.
Too bad you already payed for it tho ...
 

rsvp42

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Origin isn't spyware. It doesn't do anything more invasive than when Steam checks for non-steam games. Someone actually monitored it. I'm not saying Origin is perfect, but calling it spyware is like when Red-staters were calling Obama muslim: false and completely missing the point.
 

ZippyDSMlee

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Don't be silly it is spyware(like steam,ect) only via legit software. THo the definition of spyware is generally via unwated software.
 

Clonekiller

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AndyFromMonday said:
It's funny how people are actually defending EA. I guess privacy and consumer rights are soon to be a thing of the past.
Just wondering, why the heck would EA WANT your private data?
 

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EA have been caught with their pants down too many times lately - genuinely degrading, sexist and offensive advertising, coercing reviewers and manipulating the critical reception of their games, and now the entire debacle that is Origin - for me to feel any sympathy for the scumbags running the company. I certainly won't be touching Origin ever again, or any games on it.
 

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Clonekiller said:
AndyFromMonday said:
It's funny how people are actually defending EA. I guess privacy and consumer rights are soon to be a thing of the past.
Just wondering, why the heck would EA WANT your private data?
Why the hell would they want to collect it in the first place if they didn't want it?
 

Suicida1 Midget

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Its at times like this EA just seems to shout TROLOLOLOL. Also this is one of those times where i can say i knew this was going to happen.
 

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silverbullet1989 said:
sigh... this again... im sorry but i couldnt care less what origin does.. i have a facebook acount, i have a steam acount, i have a itunes acount, my info is prob passed around all over from those companies yet origin keeps taking the flak for something that just about every other company does
Ignorance is truly blissful isn't it? You have absolutely no understanding of what the programs you use or will use do or don't do and yet you sit here defending Origin. That's both concerning and sad.
 

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Actually this is the 3rd privacy issue within weeks here in good old germany.
-First was the "Bundestrojaner", a govermental backdoor into your computer, wich is very sloppy programmed and it's actually against the law to use.
-Second is Facebook, it's like button creates user profiles, even if you do not use the button, just that it is on a webpage makes it send data to facebook. You don't even have to be a facebook user, cause it always sends the data, wich is linked to your IP address. Wich is completely against the law.
-Third is actually Origin, wich hits right the spot. Many parents and many PC gamers ranged 20-40 really dont wanna take it anymore.

And to be precise, to bind a game to an account is not allowed, nor forbidden in germany.
When you buy a game, digital or a hardcooy, you buy a product and not a license. That means that you as a customer and "owner" of that good are allowed to sell it.

It's in a grey area, actually noone went to court with that issue, but when the first comes up their might be a shock coming to those publishers and STEAM, because they do illegal things.
 

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Well there's a thread on Reddit so it must be true! Origin is harmless... wait. That thread even demonstrates the risk. That guy had tax stuff in his program files. Should he have? No, but Origin picked it up.

If people want to disprove the claims that origin is data-mining, and I consider digging around at will in my program files to see what I have in there data-mining, we're gonna need more than some anonymous screenshots, forum dwellers, or EA saying "It's not spyware." Credible third-party sources please.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
It's funny how people are actually defending EA. I guess privacy and consumer rights are soon to be a thing of the past.
It does seems like people these days are foolish enough to accept any sort of invasion of their privacy these days, just for some shooty-shooty.

I can't really understand how people are so uninterested about their legal rights, but there you go.
 

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Sylveria said:
silverbullet1989 said:
sigh... this again... im sorry but i couldnt care less what origin does.. i have a facebook acount, i have a steam acount, i have a itunes acount, my info is prob passed around all over from those companies yet origin keeps taking the flak for something that just about every other company does
Ignorance is truly blissful isn't it? You have absolutely no understanding of what the programs you use or will use do or don't do and yet you sit here defending Origin. That's both concerning and sad.
Yes it is, thanks for asking -_-

I understand why people are crying over origin but like ive said a hundred times, and im not the only one (5 million + people using it if BF3 sales are to be belived) i really really dont give a damn, it isnt gonna steal important documents off my computer, at worse im gonna get some marketing bullshit turn up in my email inbox, and until the first over blown story hits the internet of some idiot who claims origin stole his life savings... i reserve the right to not give a flying shit
 

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Namewithheld said:
All I can say is "DIE ORIGIN DIE! DIE DIE DIE!"
EA Germany: "ohh no no no. It's not 'Die Origin Die!' it is German; 'THE Origin, THE'..."




Origin Apologist idiots: "Oh well that's fine, no one who speaks German could possibly be evil"
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
MetroidNut said:
This is very good to see; Origin is spyware, and German gamers are displaying their righteous outrage over it!

I'm less ecstatic that I don't see any such reactions here in suburban America. In fact, most reactions seem to be along the lines of "I think they slightly altered the EULA or something, who cares it's Battlefield 3."
I'll make you a deal. I'll get rid of Origin if you complain righteously about Steam having a liability clause that says if Steam completely destroys your computer, Valve is in no way liable. Also you then have to get rid of Steam.
As a strong proponent of internet privacy, I consider EA's efforts to take information from my computer as being much, much worse than Valve refusing liability in the event that your computer explodes and you try to blame them.

Also, allow me to clarify: I'm not demanding that everyone remove Origin from their computers. I just want everyone who does think EA's policies are unacceptable to take a stand on the issue, rather than quietly relenting in the name of playing Battlefield 3.
 

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Clonekiller said:
AndyFromMonday said:
It's funny how people are actually defending EA. I guess privacy and consumer rights are soon to be a thing of the past.
Just wondering, why the heck would EA WANT your private data?
Consumer data is actually pretty valuable and can be sold for a good chunk of money, so that corporations can market their products more efficiently.
 

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Treblaine said:
Namewithheld said:
All I can say is "DIE ORIGIN DIE! DIE DIE DIE!"
EA Germany: "ohh no no no. It's not 'Die Origin Die!' it is German; 'THE Origin, THE'..."




Origin Apologist idiots: "Oh well that's fine, no one who speaks German could possibly be evil"
Well played, my good sir