EA Readies Big SimCity Patch

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Karathos said:
MMO's go offline for large updates and maintenance all the time, but hey - you never want to miss an opportunity to ***** and moan about EA no matter what the situation right? Classy stuff.
Not an MM-
Akexi said:
Yep! The glories of always on DRM (no it's not an MMO)...
Seems we posted at the same time. I'm curious to know why you feel it doesn't count as an MMO. Granted if we want to go in on technicality you're not playing with MASSIVE amounts of people at the same time, but it's still a "Multiplayer Online" game.
You just answered your own question there.
It's not massive, so the first M doesn't belong. It's barely even multiplayer, so that doesn't really belong there either.
And it works perfectly well when offline if you disable the online check, so I don't quite see how it's even an online game when it's really just a singleplayer game with forced online and shoehorned multiplayer elements that are in no way worth it or even a true part of the experience. Well, positive experience anyway.
 

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i wanted to buy this game really bad, i still do. i bin a huge fan of sim city since the first one. to sell me, all they would have to do is offer an offline mode. /crossing fingers for offline mode.
 

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I didn't see an offline mode there.

EA, this is like treating a person who just lost a fucking limb by disinfecting the wound, but forgetting to patch the damn stump or stop the bleeding. I think he's still gonna die, but just not as horribly.
 

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I'm so proud of you lot. With this much aggression and sarcasm I doubt online DRM will take over, and hopefully in future they will release a game without a shit load of bugs either.

MorganL4 said:
Anyone else just go and check, only to find that the escapist STILL hasn't put out a review for the game... Did they just forget? Anyone know?
Theirs Yahtzees "review". Or maybe they're waiting for the game work properly so they can give a fair review.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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Any word on patching out that coding bug?

You know, the one that breaks the game if the EA servers aren't contacted every 20 minutes?
 

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TKretts3 said:
I have an idea to fix the processing issues and trouble in picking a suitable update time - remove the always online 'not-DRM'. I just hope that if they make a Civilization 6 that it won't have this trash in it. :(
Why would Civ VI (6) have this in it? Civilization is made by 2K not EA, different companies. It would probably use the same DRM Civ V uses, steam (sofar the best DRM if it must be in there as steam gives compremises and doesn't treat legit customers like thieves).
 

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Having re-read the headline, I am now picturing a metaphor: a large man with the EA logo for its face in a fancy suit getting ready to take a massive dump into a toilet marked "SimCity".

And that about summarizes my thoughts about what EA has done to SimCity.
 

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Please tell me they've at least fixed the traffic bugs that cripple cities later on, regardless of how efficient their systems are.
 

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Chessrook44 said:
No offline mode then?

Right, still not buying then.
Yup. Same here.

Saw the headline, skimmed over the text, brain told me it's recognized 'offline' somewhere, went for a cup of coffee, sat down, read it... yeah. Still always-on crap. Oh, well. It sure made me revisit and enjoy Sim City 4. That's a very OK game right there.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
SimCity will be offline for about two hours tonight


No changes there then.

1337mokro said:
It seems they just don't quite get it.

The only patch that can fix SimCity is an Offline mode patch.
I'm going to have to disagree there. Sure, there's no reason for SimCity to force you to be online. But ultimately, if the game actually worked and was actually fun, that wouldn't stop an awful lot of people playing it. For all the complaints Diablo 3 gets it's still a very successful and popular game, not least because Blizzard actually listen to their customers and try to fix the real problems. The main problem with SimCity is not that you need the internet, it's that the game is just fundamentally broken. Cities are far too small, resources are bizarrely finite, sims don't even have assigned homes or jobs, the pathfinding is somehow worse than in previous games, and so on. And EA/Maxis just don't give a fuck, and instead just focus on telling us it's all fine and trying to flog ever more pointless micro-transactions. A version of SimCity 4 that forced you to be online would be a good game that happened to have a bit of an annoyance tacked on for no good reason. A version of SimCity 6 that allowed you to be offline would still be shit.
 

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Kahani said:
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I'm going to have to disagree there. Sure, there's no reason for SimCity to force you to be online. But ultimately, if the game actually worked and was actually fun, that wouldn't stop an awful lot of people playing it. For all the complaints Diablo 3 gets it's still a very successful and popular game, not least because Blizzard actually listen to their customers and try to fix the real problems. The main problem with SimCity is not that you need the internet, it's that the game is just fundamentally broken. Cities are far too small, resources are bizarrely finite, sims don't even have assigned homes or jobs, the pathfinding is somehow worse than in previous games, and so on. And EA/Maxis just don't give a fuck, and instead just focus on telling us it's all fine and trying to flog ever more pointless micro-transactions. A version of SimCity 4 that forced you to be online would be a good game that happened to have a bit of an annoyance tacked on for no good reason. A version of SimCity 6 that allowed you to be offline would still be shit.
Don't you mean SimCity 5?

I don't think they counted Societies.

However MOST (read most not all) of SimCity 5's problems and horrible design are endemic to the online features. Why are our towns the size of a sand grain? Online features! Why are services so expensive and why is SimCity akin to a nightmare version of Soviet Russia where nobody pays for any public service? In reality that sewer system I built would require a tax to use, literally called sewage tax. The answer is Online features so you are more motivated to centralize a single resource or service in a single city and share it. Why do factories offer so many jobs? A few simple factories could offer work to a town of nearly 100'000, perhaps because only 1/8 people actually works, I guess the SimCity devs are stuck in the 1950's housewive mentality, but the answer is again obvious, so that cities could again be specialized to house only one type of building and they even made a great work based exactly on that. The Arcology(yes I know it was in earlier games) is basically a giant worker hive that will send out workers to other cities. Not to mention that they freeze the city when you leave which is perhaps the cheapest and stupidest way to encourage multiplayer play.

So for MOST (read most not all) of SimCity 5's many many many problems I can find a direct link back to the online features.

Now other things like the Resource-Sink system, the drill to the forehead stupid AI, the ridiculous tax system where anything above 11 will force Sims to leave. Welcome to the real world SimCity devs I pay 18% and when I work fulltime I pay 41%. Both have not yet caused me to leave my town.

Those are just built into the hardware, however these could also be fixed with separate patches.

Also I am a huge Diablo fan. The words Always Online, means that I have NO idea how Diablo 3 plays because I did not buy it. Don't be mistaken I did not buy SimCity myself, it was a birthday present because my friends knew I loved to play the previous games. Can you imagine my face when I opened up the package to find the game that I had shunned for so long?
 

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Andy Chalk said:
I've stayed as far as humanly possible away from the whole SimCity fiasco (except to point and laugh)
haha! Well at least you're honest, Andy.
+ Hmm... Sounds like they're at least trying to fix this mess, but same time, what'd be wrong with, say, delaying release, allowing pre-orders early access as a final beta
 

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Kahani said:
For all the complaints Diablo 3 gets it's still a very successful and popular gam
Last I heard, the Diablo 3 population was circling the drain; to the point where they basically threw up their hands and stopped developing PvP, because there wouldn't be enough players to justify it.

Since the PS3/PS4 version of the game is going to be strictly better (it has offline mode), I'm guessing that's where their efforts are going now.