EA seriously needs to do a Mass Effect Trilogy remaster.

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Because playing the games seperately is just a flawed experiance. I mean when I played all 3 games on PC it was a pain to set up and make the save transfers work. And downloading all the essential DLC is a pain aswell. Also on the PC version you can't play the DLC for Mass Effect 3 without being hooked to the net and if the net goes away during gameplay the DLC's is cut. So have to be always online for the DLC to work.

What I want is all 3 games and their crucial DLC combined into one package. No DLC authentification, no issues with Save Transfer (Mass Effect 1 to 2 is the most egrigious example) and make it like the Halo Master Chief Collection where its 3 games in one disc.
 

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EA seriously need to fix the damn ending. That's about the only way a remaster would have any point to it.

Even cutting to the credits before the hideous Star Child appears would be a major improvement. All the crap it spouts has no crucial relation to anything that took place earlier in the game (except that Leviathan DLC, or so I've heard... my last BW purchase was the day one DLC for ME3), so it would be simple just to excise the most damaging nonsense.
 

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StatusNil said:
EA seriously need to fix the damn ending. That's about the only way a remaster would have any point to it.

Even cutting to the credits before the hideous Star Child appears would be a major improvement. All the crap it spouts has no crucial relation to anything that took place earlier in the game (except that Leviathan DLC, or so I've heard... my last BW purchase was the day one DLC for ME3), so it would be simple just to excise the most damaging nonsense.
The journey is still a great experiance regardless. And I want that journey to be as smooth as possible.
 

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They already tried that with the Mass Effect Trilogy, but unfortunately not exactly as you suggested.

I dunno, I'm kinda tired of seeing all the masters that's getting released left and right, but I wouldn't put it past EA to do a Mass Effect one.
 

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Aerosteam said:
I dunno, I'm kinda tired of seeing all the masters that's getting released left and right, but I wouldn't put it past EA to do a Mass Effect one.
As someone who wasn't around last gen, I appreciate some of these remasters. But a lot of them seem real lazy.
 

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They already tried that with the Mass Effect Trilogy, but unfortunately not exactly as you suggested.

I dunno, I'm kinda tired of seeing all the masters that's getting released left and right, but I wouldn't put it past EA to do a Mass Effect one.
Trilogy was flawed because EA still wanted us to pay for most of the DLC. Even at $30 for the Trilogy, I ended up paying like $90 to get all of the characters and story DLC in 2 and 3. Given they did it already once, I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again, DLC shenanigans and all.
 

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The problem with getting a remaster is that the games are hitting the backward compatibility services of Microsoft and Sony.

So the games are going to be playable on the next-gen consoles with no extra work needed from EA. It's free money to them, as people who sold their old consoles and games will go out and buy ME2 and ME3 again.

On the PC the modders have already made the games textures High Resolution, so EA have the job done for them again practically.

Plus an official remaster just when Andromeda is coming out? That's just going to bring bad PR when it inevitably brings up the endings to Mass Effect 3 again.

In short. We might see a remaster after Andromeda is released but I wouldn't be holding my breath for one.

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I mean when I played all 3 games on PC it was a pain to set up and make the save transfers work.
The only thing you need to do to make the save transfer work is go into the ME2 config tool and click 'Copy Mass Effect 1 Save games'. Mass Effect 3 doesn't need that and sees the ME2 saves on its own.

I'm guessing that this is because they changed how the saves worked in the second two games. It's my assumption because I can swap saves for the latter two games between my 360 and PC versions but not for the first game.

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And downloading all the essential DLC is a pain as well.
Really? Just use Origin and click on the download button, it's just the same thing as you'd have to do on the consoles, there's no 'Download All' button there either.

Though quite annoyingly, as I discovered yesterday when putting ME1 on my Spares PC, Origin installs Pinnacle Station automatically. SO I had to delete the DLC folder and start again.

It's very odd playing at 4:3 without the high resolution texture mod.

Samtemdo8 said:
Also on the PC version you can't play the DLC for Mass Effect 3 without being hooked to the net and if the net goes away during gameplay the DLC's is cut. So have to be always online for the DLC to work.
No you don't. Put Origin in offline mode or turn off your internet and all your DLC works normally.

The only thing I have found is that I need to be online when starting a new game in order for my Collectors Edition content to be there (the dog and N7 weapons etc). Once I get the chance to save though, I can take the game back offline and that content remains unlocked.

If you are having to be online for your DLC to work then there is something wrong because it really is meant to work offline.

This I know because....cough....I've disabled Origin in order to be able to run Mass Effect 3 directly through Steam in order to use its screenshot functions.
 

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votemarvel said:
The problem with getting a remaster is that the games are hitting the backward compatibility services of Microsoft and Sony.

So the games are going to be playable on the next-gen consoles with no extra work needed from EA. It's free money to them, as people who sold their old consoles and games will go out and buy ME2 and ME3 again.

On the PC the modders have already made the games textures High Resolution, so EA have the job done for them again practically.

Plus an official remaster just when Andromeda is coming out? That's just going to bring bad PR when it inevitably brings up the endings to Mass Effect 3 again.

In short. We might see a remaster after Andromeda is released but I wouldn't be holding my breath for one.

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I mean when I played all 3 games on PC it was a pain to set up and make the save transfers work.
The only thing you need to do to make the save transfer work is go into the ME2 config tool and click 'Copy Mass Effect 1 Save games'. Mass Effect 3 doesn't need that and sees the ME2 saves on its own.

I'm guessing that this is because they changed how the saves worked in the second two games. It's my assumption because I can swap saves for the latter two games between my 360 and PC versions but not for the first game.

Samtemdo8 said:
And downloading all the essential DLC is a pain as well.
Really? Just use Origin and click on the download button, it's just the same thing as you'd have to do on the consoles, there's no 'Download All' button there either.

Though quite annoyingly, as I discovered yesterday when putting ME1 on my Spares PC, Origin installs Pinnacle Station automatically. SO I had to delete the DLC folder and start again.

It's very odd playing at 4:3 without the high resolution texture mod.

Samtemdo8 said:
Also on the PC version you can't play the DLC for Mass Effect 3 without being hooked to the net and if the net goes away during gameplay the DLC's is cut. So have to be always online for the DLC to work.
No you don't. Put Origin in offline mode or turn off your internet and all your DLC works normally.

The only thing I have found is that I need to be online when starting a new game in order for my Collectors Edition content to be there (the dog and N7 weapons etc). Once I get the chance to save though, I can take the game back offline and that content remains unlocked.

If you are having to be online for your DLC to work then there is something wrong because it really is meant to work offline.

This I know because....cough....I've disabled Origin in order to be able to run Mass Effect 3 directly through Steam in order to use its screenshot functions.
On the 3rd part:


But the stupid thing is is WHY do I have to do that? Besides what if I need the internet to look up guides for things like quests.

On the 2nd part:

Its mostly because on my end these are huge games and in my internet speed it can take 1 day to fully download. And I live with a brother that uses the net extensively so he cannot afford the internet slowed with downloading.
 

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Unless you are running the Collector's Edition, you don't. You can even unlock the Hoodie from it with a save editor. As I said if ALL your DLC is requiring an internet connection at all times, then something is wrong with your install.

Beyond the aforementioned Collectors Edition stuff, at the start of each new run, and of course the multiplayer DLCs, you don't need to be online for them to work.

If you need to use the internet, then use it if it is available. Your access to it should not be doing anything to your DLCs.

As to the download. I was under the impression you already had the games installed? Is that not the case?
 

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StatusNil said:
EA seriously need to fix the damn ending. That's about the only way a remaster would have any point to it.

Even cutting to the credits before the hideous Star Child appears would be a major improvement. All the crap it spouts has no crucial relation to anything that took place earlier in the game (except that Leviathan DLC, or so I've heard... my last BW purchase was the day one DLC for ME3), so it would be simple just to excise the most damaging nonsense.
There are a lot of issues with the plot. The ending was just where all the mistakes made by the writers for 2 games collided(ME1 had a good plot, ME2 and 3.....not so much).

Changing the ending wouldn't have helped much, I mean, other then getting rid of the Star Child. You'd still have a bunch of other things that don't really work. I suspect a lot of the problem was the lead writer for the first game leaving halfway through the 2nd(which is why the whole Dark Energy plot in ME2 mysteriously just kinda drops).

There's also the problem is that other then the combat and inventory system in ME1 being rather clunky(and then whole mako thing, which I didn't mind too terribly), ME1 was all Bioware, before they sold their souls to EA(or was bought out by them). I don't trust EA not to "improve" ME1 to make it "better"(aka more like their normal games), including a bunch of paid DLC and an Origin requirement(like ME3 had).

Nah, there's really no way EA can realistically make the series better by remastering it, but there's a lot of ways they can make it worse. Kind of like why I don't want EA making a sequel to Jade Empire. The company that made that game doesn't really exist anymore, it's been/being absorbed into the EA collective.
 

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A full remake of ME3 would actually be a better move. It's shit.

Wake Shepard up from some Collector containment unit and pass ME3 off as a bad dream Bobby Ewing style, then it'll be worth looking at.
 

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Bit early for a remaster imo, let the technology progress a bit more so as to make the remake effort worth it.

Samtemdo8 said:
The journey is still a great experiance regardless. And I want that journey to be as smooth as possible.
The journey might be a great experience, but it can still be soured by the destination. I'm not even bitching about the actual ending cinematics btw, but the actual end game of me3 on earth which was just shoddy final level, every time in me3 I'd reach Earth I'd be like, fuck it, just gonna say I beat the game cos no way I'm doing London again, it's the worst part of the whole trilogy and that's before you even get into the endings and star child xD

Redo London entirely is all I'd ask for in me3 remastered. Keep the cutscenes for all I care, but make the end of me3 GOOD dangit, don't make me feel like there's no point playing past the half way point of me3 or even just outright stopping at me2.
Say what you will about me2's plot and story, but at least it was effective as an action movie and remained consistent to its theme of building up a team to go on a suicide mission. Gameplay served story and even if said story was shitty, I for one didn't care and just enjoyed the ride.

Me3 can't be compared to Me2, both might have had crap stories but Me2 at least knew what it was bloody doing and even if you found the baby reaper stupid, the whole suicide mission finale is awesomness, much more in line with how I'd view the series ending then...whatever the fuck THAT was in me3.

/nerdrant over

Otherwise remaking me1 would worry me a bit. A lot of the things I loved about that game are things that would probably get removed (big open wide areas where you can actually move around and snipe enemies from afar without being forced into a corridor, weapons have no ammo but cooldowns, your aim and other characteristics depended on your stats, etc). No idea if I'm a special snowflake with this opinion though, me1 seems to be the most polarizing of the 3 games.
 

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Mass Effect 2 has my favourite moment of the trilogy in Tali's loyalty mission, but overall it is Mass Effect 1 that is the best for me.

It ticks every box of what I wanted, even if it didn't do them all particularly well. I think it has by far the best and smoothest combat (I don't get the clunky comments), the best collection of squad-mates. I love the Mako (find it difficult to drive, then use the map to find the easiest route).

I could wax lyrical about the game for the longest of times. Suffice to say while the next two games might have become visually more impressive (I find the second game to be the best looking), it's this one that keeps me coming back to the trilogy.

So it's all the more saddening for me that it looks as if Mass Effect: Andromeda will have moved even further away from the game that started it all.

Bioware seem determined to move away from the style of game which made them popular, that gave them a fanbase in whose eyes they could originally do no wrong, which made EA want to buy them in the first place.

I wish them all the success in the world and hope their future games are popular. I just have the biggest of suspicions that I'm not going along for this journey.

So what does that ramble have to do with the topic of the thread. It's that if we do get a remaster/remake, I fear that we'll see it go the way of Final Fantasy VII and end up with something that we didn't actually want.
 

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Frankster said:
Bit early for a remaster imo, let the technology progress a bit more so as to make the remake effort worth it.

Samtemdo8 said:
The journey is still a great experiance regardless. And I want that journey to be as smooth as possible.
The journey might be a great experience, but it can still be soured by the destination. I'm not even bitching about the actual ending cinematics btw, but the actual end game of me3 on earth which was just shoddy final level, every time in me3 I'd reach Earth I'd be like, fuck it, just gonna say I beat the game cos no way I'm doing London again, it's the worst part of the whole trilogy and that's before you even get into the endings and star child xD

Redo London entirely, or even the finale. Keep the cutscenes for all I care, but make the end of me3 GOOD dangit, don't make me feel like there's no point playing past the half way point of me3 or even just outright stopping at me2.
Say what you will about me2's plot and story, but at least it was effective as an action movie and remained consistent to its theme of building up a team to go on a suicide mission. Gameplay served story and even if said story was shitty, I for one didn't care and just enjoyed the ride.

Me3 can't be compared to Me2, both might have had crap stories but Me2 at least knew what it was bloody doing and even if you found the baby reaper stupid, the whole suicide mission finale is awesomness, much more in line with how I'd view the series ending then...whatever the fuck THAT was in me3.

/nerdrant over
You dislike ME3's ending, some of us (including me) loved it (God forbid amirite), let's leave it at that and focus on the topic. That's a hole the thread won't crawl out of.

OT: I would love the idea you're suggesting, if I had to buy everything again. Not the crappy trilogy package they have on origin right now either- it'd be amazing if you got every game, every DLC, in one package, and going from one game to another was seamless.
 

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Setting up the DLC in 2 is just a fucking headache. I usually go on a Mass Effect 2 pilgrimage every summer, and just getting everything ready and installed properly can be a real hassle. It's worth it, though.

The sad thing is the fact that it makes me crave playing 3 for its updated mechanics, and I usually do. And regret it. (By the way, did you know that if you haven't bought the day-one-dlc with it, they replace the prothian guy in the final speech Shepard gives before the endgame section with a random-ass alliance marine? Like they didn't even try?)

I usually skip out on 1, not because I don't like it, or anything, it just feels too clunky for me to get real enjoyment out of it. I've beaten it twice, and for me that's enough. I've beaten 2 like seven or eight times, and I just keep wanting more.
 

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Definitely not (at least while EA keeps being the IP owner)! If you hate to have to be always connected in ME3 just to play the DLC, imagine that for just playing the 3 games normally! You're playing ME1, the connection dies, and your game goes back to the main menu with a "Connection Lost" error.
 

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Hell, a whole reboot would be better at this point. Some minor improvements into ME1 and start 2 and 3 from scratch.
 

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I'd be down, I'd like to get back into the multiplayer too. Never really got the super extreme hate for 3 honestly.
 

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The first game would even profit (imo) from a remake. While the story was great the gameplay, I felt, was inferior to that of the second and third game.

Basically I'd love to see the entire trilogy remade to look like ME3, sold to us as a unified experience with all relevant story DLC included. I'd pay good money for that.

Who knows, maybe we'll see something like that around the time Andromeda hits store shelves, so a potential remaster could ride the hype train more effectively.
 

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Sonicron said:
The first game would even profit (imo) from a remake. While the story was great the gameplay, I felt, was inferior to that of the second and third game.

Basically I'd love to see the entire trilogy remade to look like ME3, sold to us as a unified experience with all relevant story DLC included. I'd pay good money for that.
I think this, more then anything else, is the problem with rereleasing all the Mass Effects. Without going into who is 'right,' the choice to leave the gameplay as is, or to 'unify' the experience by updating the older game, is going to end up pissing someone off, no matter what.