EA, Sony and Nintendo Withdraw SOPA Support - UPDATED

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BlackWidower said:
AhumbleKnight said:
Edit: the NFL? WTF^^
Well that makes sense. The NFL broadcasts the games, they don't want it posted online.
You mean they don't post it themselves? I don't watch football but I do sometimes catch the Rugby games, and the highlights are posted by the NRL. Also, the biggest thing that gets posted online in relation to sport are the Superball commercials. How is that in any way negative?
 
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RaikuFA said:
Capcom is part of this SOPA as well.

This past year they've just shot themselves in the foot over and over again and now this.
I honestly could care less about capcom at this point, I personally own all the games I need from them "from nes to ps3". I might pick up some of the new resident evil games if they have any possibility of being good "they did drop two major franchises bof and mega/rockman"

On subject..well nice to know that software companies are willing to listen to their buyers before making rash choices that affect a certain base. I do own 2 wii's 2 ps3's one of each are fully modded the other are for online stuff etc.

Companies need to realize it's the consumer that keeps them alive/flourish If you can not compete then restructure your business model but overall treat your customers with the up-most respect.
 

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It's a scary thought that this is actually being considered as a possibility... just think of everything we all do everyday that could be affected by this! I don't think that the people supporting this really understand what it means or what it will actually affect...
 

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AhumbleKnight said:
BlackWidower said:
AhumbleKnight said:
Edit: the NFL? WTF^^
Well that makes sense. The NFL broadcasts the games, they don't want it posted online.
You mean they don't post it themselves? I don't watch football but I do sometimes catch the Rugby games, and the highlights are posted by the NRL. Also, the biggest thing that gets posted online in relation to sport are the Superball commercials. How is that in any way negative?
They don't want you pirating their ads! How are they supposed to make money off them?
 

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I can't remember who said it first but: "SOPA : Sons Of the Patriots Act"
Seriously this is some MGS2 stuff going on here.
 

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Well those 3 companies don't concern me very much anyway, but it would be nice for them to denounce their support for this SOPA shit, same goes for everyone else that knows how to use a computer.

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There are people to punish, after all.
Shame they are punishing everyone on the internet.
 

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CardinalPiggles said:
Well those 3 companies don't concern me very much anyway, but it would be nice for them to denounce their support for this SOPA shit, same goes for everyone else that knows how to use a computer.

Zachary Amaranth said:
There are people to punish, after all.
Shame they are punishing everyone on the internet.
There's a common saying for this. "A few bad apples are ruining it for everyone else".

So, get rid of the bad apples, then we'll talk.
 

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The bill is problem and if the bill is a problem then I have a problem and if I have a problem the you have a problem, is that clear?
 

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There's a common saying for this. "A few bad apples are ruining it for everyone else".

So, get rid of the bad apples, then we'll talk.
So you honestly believe that if you live in a neighbourhood where someone was murdered, you deserve by default to be treated like a murderer?

Come now. Turning Americans into felons without appeal is not something justified under the punishment of a "few bad apples."
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
ResonanceSD said:
There's a common saying for this. "A few bad apples are ruining it for everyone else".

So, get rid of the bad apples, then we'll talk.
So you honestly believe that if you live in a neighbourhood where someone was murdered, you deserve by default to be treated like a murderer?

Come now. Turning Americans into felons without appeal is not something justified under the punishment of a "few bad apples."

If the murder could occur anonymously and was prevalent throughout the neighbourhood, damned straight. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Give the industry reason to trust you and they will. They aren't going to take all the risk in creating a product and just roll over when people don't buy it. If people are enjoying the creation, they'd have better paid for it.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
ResonanceSD said:
There's a common saying for this. "A few bad apples are ruining it for everyone else".

So, get rid of the bad apples, then we'll talk.
So you honestly believe that if you live in a neighbourhood where someone was murdered, you deserve by default to be treated like a murderer?

Come now. Turning Americans into felons without appeal is not something justified under the punishment of a "few bad apples."

If the murder could occur anonymously and was prevalent throughout the neighbourhood, damned straight. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Give the industry reason to trust you and they will. They aren't going to take all the risk in creating a product and just roll over when people don't buy it. If people are enjoying the creation, they'd have better paid for it.
EDIT: No appeal? You're free to buy products without DRM. All of them. Vote with your wallets. Since Origin was released, I haven't bought a single EA product.
 

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I find it amusing because somehow if SOPA passes I only see companies being able to lose profit over it.
 

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This gets uglier than what is first shown and believed.

Let us say the bill passes and now video's that corporations do not want posted are removed indiscriminately.

Now companies have the power to say, "Hey, there are images of Mr. X and Mrs. X outside of our control and we never gave permission for those to be on Y site." Than a bill will try to be edited to include pictures that are not approved of since the corporation is losing profit from unregulated image sharing. Imagine on the amateur pictures of stars, cartoons, or manga/comics that have not been approved by the distributor. Kinda like a store can't use Mickey Mouse to advertise their store/product sine it is in violation of copyright protection.

"How is this possible? It's not the same thing." Actually, the video game rights were held up with a very similar situation of 1st amendment rights on books, movies, and music. Since those were protected it allowed games to be protected as well. So if "illegal" videos are shut down, than "illegal" images can be shut down too.


The possibilities from this bill goes dark...very dark.
 

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Hopefully this means that people working for the 3 giants are getting pissed and it is just their bosses that want to crush their son to be non-existant indy careers that would have made far better games.
 

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This was proved to be untrue. I'd link, but I can't really be bothered to go find it. There are two lists for SOPA supporters, and Sony, Nintendo, and EA weren't on that list to begin with. They are still present on the other one. The companies also never announced them removing their support from the bill.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
This has very little to do with piracy.

Look at Valve. Not only does piracy of their own games hurt them, piracy of every PC game available on their store potentially hurt them as well. And they aren't behind this.

And Sony? Are you asking for another bumrape?
Actually, piracy of their own games does not in fact hurt them. Neither does piracy of any other game. Please do some research on piracy and its actual effects before spreading more misinformation.

Article about Valve CEO Gabe Newell explaning why piracy isn't an issue for them.
http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1213357p1.html

And this backs up his point.
http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/02/17/0526200/valve-beats-google-apple-for-profits-per-employee

OT: At this point I kind of want SOPA to pass. The rage that will be unloaded on the entertainment industry will truly hurt them, before SOPA ultimately gets reversed.

By the way, if you didn't know, it was the entertainment industry itself that made it so easy for us to pirate their crap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc&feature=g-all-f&context=G29b77d1FAAAAAAAABAA
 

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ResonanceSD said:
If the murder could occur anonymously and was prevalent throughout the neighbourhood, damned straight. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Give the industry reason to trust you and they will. They aren't going to take all the risk in creating a product and just roll over when people don't buy it. If people are enjoying the creation, they'd have better paid for it.
Wooooow.

At least you're consistent, I'll give you that. And just about only that.
 

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People also keep forgetting that Microsoft who says they are against the legislation is also a member of the ESA. The ESA members include quite a few of the "major" developers in the US. (Except Activision/Blizzard which dropped out of the organization a few years ago.) I will post a member list at the end of this post.

The bad news comes in that the ESA has no intention of dropping its support.

http://kotaku.com/5872766/the-video-game-industrys-lobbyists-support-sopa-but-they-understand-why-you-might-not

So if these members, including Microsoft are truly against the legislation they should drop out of the ESA, the only down side it may mean the end of E3, which the ESA also organizes and runs.

Here are the members:

http://www.theesa.com/about/members.asp

EDIT: Put the link to the site instead of listing them separately.
 

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Magnicon said:
Article about Valve CEO Gabe Newell explaning why piracy isn't an issue for them.
http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1213357p1.html

And this backs up his point.
http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/02/17/0526200/valve-beats-google-apple-for-profits-per-employee
Butt according to the Escapist, a lawyer has demolish piracy lawyers. And we're apologists!