So you want them to pay more, so they can get things early... that they have to pay for... This is... pretty low, even for EA. What next, Sims 5 simply has a subscription service. Not for any online functionality, but just to be able to play the game. Plus the 60 dollar initial investment to buy the game, plus the 20 dollar price for every DLC. Even now you can easily pay up to 400 dollars for all the sims 3 content. That is fucking insane. Just stop EA.
EA Unveils Sims 4 Premium Membership
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The worst(?) part is, like BF4 and SimCity, it will be a complete failure and meltdown at launch, so you'll have paid $100 for a Premium Nonworking Lump and then they'll push all the premium stuff back for months while they try to get the game to the state it should have been at release. But they don't care, you already paid to Beta test.
Well cheers for the info, an informed buyer is a happy buyer (or at the very least a much less pissed off one). I'll have to keep an eye out during future sales and see if price becomes reasonable enough for me to take a gamble.Ultratwinkie said:
Well at least my initial memories of my reception to vanilla sims 3 weren't entirely unfounded then.Scrumpmonkey said:
Anyways yea, I pity the poor sod who bought the sims and expansions for full price...Maybe a prenium subscription isn't that much of a ripoff all things considered xP
The thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that people will still purchase this game (and all the extra expansions that go with it).
See, the Sims has always struck me as a game popular with the more "casual" gamers (and I do not want to use that as an insult - it's not. I'm a casual gamer by most definitions.), that is to say - when people see a big TV advertising campaign for this game, they'll go out and buy it.
EAs target demographic for this game is not the informed, forum-reading, review-watching, outrage-following, boycott-partaking gamer. It's the "I've got the Sims 3 on my laptop and I play it on my lunchbreak/after work sometimes, ooooh look! Sims 4! That could be fun!" crowd.
That's my feeling anyway. Personally the last game I played was the Sims 2 - I've never once bought any expansions for any Sims game, and I've no intention of buying this (or indeed, any EA game). However, voting with my wallet has rarely worked in the past, so I doubt it'll work now.
Sad truth is, this is the way games are going, because people are still buying them, no matter how much companies look to gouge you.
See, the Sims has always struck me as a game popular with the more "casual" gamers (and I do not want to use that as an insult - it's not. I'm a casual gamer by most definitions.), that is to say - when people see a big TV advertising campaign for this game, they'll go out and buy it.
EAs target demographic for this game is not the informed, forum-reading, review-watching, outrage-following, boycott-partaking gamer. It's the "I've got the Sims 3 on my laptop and I play it on my lunchbreak/after work sometimes, ooooh look! Sims 4! That could be fun!" crowd.
That's my feeling anyway. Personally the last game I played was the Sims 2 - I've never once bought any expansions for any Sims game, and I've no intention of buying this (or indeed, any EA game). However, voting with my wallet has rarely worked in the past, so I doubt it'll work now.
Sad truth is, this is the way games are going, because people are still buying them, no matter how much companies look to gouge you.
It just seems like as EA games get newer, they get better engines and attention to fine details, but they often end up losing a lot of content from the previous game along the way.
If your brand new game that came out in 2014 has less content that the first game in the franchise back in 2000, then you are doing it wrong.
If your brand new game that came out in 2014 has less content that the first game in the franchise back in 2000, then you are doing it wrong.
This is why I'm proudly sticking to my policy of not buying any EA games. The endless cycle of fuckup, outrage and fake contrition shows that they do not care what people think at all, so you basically have to take your money elsewhere.
This is a common issue whenever an EA exec opens their mouth. If a reboot doesn't fix it, try CTRL+ALT+DEL and end task NOPE mode. Click "FU EA" on the confirmation prompt and restart the "Don't give a damn" system service.lacktheknack said:
It looks like there's going to be a loooot of feedback-backslash-backlash that they could capitalize on. If they really wanted to. Or they could keep doing whatever it looks like they're doing and handle everything after the game is launched. It does make sense that they'd take on an alpha model, but again, the important stuff is feedback, and I can't be certain whether or not they'll take advantage of any of it.
Learn your lesson. Stop giving them money.
But despite the complaints people will still buy this. They can't even have the self-control to wait a week in order to hurt the release numbers.
And like always, the more anti-consumer they get, the more pirates they create because pirates won't have to pay for a full game, then extra for withheld furniture off a day-one digital store, and then extra for an expansion that puts in what was always in the full games.
They're treating customers actually willing to pay them like suckers they can squeeze for every penny rather.
But despite the complaints people will still buy this. They can't even have the self-control to wait a week in order to hurt the release numbers.
And like always, the more anti-consumer they get, the more pirates they create because pirates won't have to pay for a full game, then extra for withheld furniture off a day-one digital store, and then extra for an expansion that puts in what was always in the full games.
They're treating customers actually willing to pay them like suckers they can squeeze for every penny rather.
As much as the CoD series is hated for stagnating, at least they provide a complete AAA game for the initial price at launch! No platform exclusive missions and nothing cut out from the offline single player to sell as day 1 DLC. All of the other AAA developers (Except Valve AFAIK) are continuing to extort every penny from their paying customers while Activision, Infinity Ward, Treyarch and Sledgehammer Games continue to provide a full offline single player experience for the game's asking price and still end up laughing all the way to the bank.
EA doesn't NEED the extra money generated by the subscription service, it WANTS the extra money out of sheer greed and nothing more.
EA doesn't NEED the extra money generated by the subscription service, it WANTS the extra money out of sheer greed and nothing more.
I've got something for you, too, EA. Just give me a second, it's in here somewhere...
Ah yes, here you are. It's a brand new shiny GO FUCK YOURSELF. Enjoy!
Everything I hear about them these days just pisses me off more and more. All this exclusive BS, give us money before we've done any work, blah blah. What happened to making just a freaking game straight up. So now we'll have this and 10 very over priced "expansions".
Ah yes, here you are. It's a brand new shiny GO FUCK YOURSELF. Enjoy!
Everything I hear about them these days just pisses me off more and more. All this exclusive BS, give us money before we've done any work, blah blah. What happened to making just a freaking game straight up. So now we'll have this and 10 very over priced "expansions".
Remember when BP caused a spill, drilled into another dimension, and then summoned cthulhu somehow in that trilogy of excellent south park episodes? And they issued those apology commercials?
That's what this is. That's totally what this is. To a tee. I can't believe a company can fuck up this much. The key difference being that petrol, while slowly being phased out, is still a very necessary and useful fuel source.
Here, they're selling an entertainment product which nobody needs. And they're still fucking up this badly. There are no good reasons to buy the sims 4. No good ones. New emotion animations? Yeah, that sure sounds worth 60 dollars and a subscription. If you have literally no concept of the worth of a dollar or value for money.
You know, when I first joined this forum, I kind of liked EA, if only because of the good NFS games. And battlefield 2 modern combat. But instead of asking anybody, I simply hung around the forums, checking the news. And that is literally all it took. All the shit they've been doing for the past few years. I've seen news articles exposing all of it since my join date. The sim city debacle, yahtzee's sims 3 review, dungeon keeper mobile, a subscription fee for tetris (look it up and you'll find a wonderful destructoid article by our own fabulous jim sterling), all of the shit they're doing. No wonder people hate them. Hell, I hate them now too. I can't defend this. It would be like defending hitler while he stands behind me eating kittens.
That's what this is. That's totally what this is. To a tee. I can't believe a company can fuck up this much. The key difference being that petrol, while slowly being phased out, is still a very necessary and useful fuel source.
Here, they're selling an entertainment product which nobody needs. And they're still fucking up this badly. There are no good reasons to buy the sims 4. No good ones. New emotion animations? Yeah, that sure sounds worth 60 dollars and a subscription. If you have literally no concept of the worth of a dollar or value for money.
You know, when I first joined this forum, I kind of liked EA, if only because of the good NFS games. And battlefield 2 modern combat. But instead of asking anybody, I simply hung around the forums, checking the news. And that is literally all it took. All the shit they've been doing for the past few years. I've seen news articles exposing all of it since my join date. The sim city debacle, yahtzee's sims 3 review, dungeon keeper mobile, a subscription fee for tetris (look it up and you'll find a wonderful destructoid article by our own fabulous jim sterling), all of the shit they're doing. No wonder people hate them. Hell, I hate them now too. I can't defend this. It would be like defending hitler while he stands behind me eating kittens.
EA: No it's cool. We don't mind being voted the worst company in America, anymore. Bring on your hate. In fact, We're thinking about piecemealling all of our games. Then we can charge for a premium service AND have a cash shop at the same time. And then, we can piecemeal the premium service. The premium service won't really kick in until you buy both parts A and B. Don't worry, Angry Joe, this is all in the name of fighting piracy.
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Well, damn... that turned into a Corporate Commander sketch...
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Well, damn... that turned into a Corporate Commander sketch...