Meh, I don't particularly care for Marvel movies for the most part anyways. My favorite one is actually Iron Man 2, so I clearly am missing something when it comes to these films. They just seem so flat and boring sometimes.
Edgar Wright No Longer Directing Marvel's Ant-Man
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Based on what? To pretty much the whole sentence.marcooos said:
Anyway, this is a damn shame and things where going so well, maybe Marvel and Whedon do have someone else they considered with Edar or maybe they've filmed enough footage so another director can fill in the blanks. If the story is going where I think it is this movie is rather important to the overall structure to the Marvel Movie U as is, so they most definitely will rectify this change in events.
Fingers crossed.
Well, that sucks. =(
That's pretty much all I can say about it. I can't speculate on why they parted ways or who's at fault. All I know is that (a) it's suck to hear that two sides couldn't find a middle ground, (b) Marvel has lost some major momentum with the fans, and (c) it's gonna take something spectacular to fill in those shoes or make people forget about this come San Diego Comic Con.
I'd like to offer more insight on this, but I think Drew McWeeny (yes, that's his name so quit laughing) of HitFix.com covered it better than I could.
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/edgar-wright-and-marvel-part-ways-on-ant-man-over-a-different-vision-of-the-film
That's pretty much all I can say about it. I can't speculate on why they parted ways or who's at fault. All I know is that (a) it's suck to hear that two sides couldn't find a middle ground, (b) Marvel has lost some major momentum with the fans, and (c) it's gonna take something spectacular to fill in those shoes or make people forget about this come San Diego Comic Con.
I'd like to offer more insight on this, but I think Drew McWeeny (yes, that's his name so quit laughing) of HitFix.com covered it better than I could.
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/edgar-wright-and-marvel-part-ways-on-ant-man-over-a-different-vision-of-the-film
Well, that's lame. I have a standing rule to watch anything Edgar Wright makes because he's a brilliant director and everything I've seen from him has been great (Spaced, the Cornetto trilogy, Scott Pilgrim), so I hope this just means he's off to do something else. Marvel's loss I suppose.
I hate to say this, but Wright may simply have not been a good choice for a big budget tentpole movie in a shared universe. Yes he has made some movies that we all love. Pretty much the 3 Simon Pegg Nick Frost movies. But Scott Pilgrim was not exactly a breakout success. Even with it's inherent quirkiness. Marvel hasn't exactly been against the concept of using directors from different mediums or styles. Kenneth Branaugh for a comic book movie? Not exactly intuitive. Or the TV directing Russo brothers for an action spy thriller? Those paid off well. but that doesn't mean every combination works. We don't know what Wrights plans were or how he was looking to bring the characters to the screen. As you say if Marvel did not think it fully lined up with their overall vision then yeah it might be perfectly legit creative differences. Marvel has been keeping their IP's on a somewhat shorter leash. But I think we can all agree that that has paid off for them. They want them to hew closely to the source materials and peoples expectations of the characters. The alternative to their overarching creative and character control is stuff like Fantastic Four or X3 and lets not forget Man of Steel and Green Lantern. If Wright was delivering a quirky comedy or character study where Marvel was wanting a SciFi action adventure then yeah. Creative Differences.
let's also not forget that Edgar Wright does not have a ton of experience playing around in the large budget world. Once again his only "A List" Hollywood project before this was Scott Pilgrim. One question we as fans rarely think about or talk about is "is the director capable of delivering the product that the studio wants within budget?" The fact that there are stories floating around about concerns regarding Wrights lack of "coverage" when shooting is a pretty good indication that the studio might be worried along these lines. For Wrights smaller quirkier films he can get buy with shooting less and working in reshoots if he doesn't like something. Heck I think his Simon Pegg stuff was shot on film? So minimizing that is budget cutting. He came up through BBC and British television where this is a common approach. But on a summer blockbuster? reshoots cost an order of magnitude more than just throwing a few extra cameras and cameramen at primary shooting.
And the simple fact is sometimes studios and good skilled directors with drooling fan bases do legitimately have creative differences. They do not always agree with what direction to take a project. Heck Joss Wheedon and Warner Brothers had such with Wonder Woman. He wanted to do a classic WW2 set Wonder Woman. They wanted a modern action adventure. He was replaced. (granted one would think in hindsight they are probably kicking themselves.)
let's also not forget that Edgar Wright does not have a ton of experience playing around in the large budget world. Once again his only "A List" Hollywood project before this was Scott Pilgrim. One question we as fans rarely think about or talk about is "is the director capable of delivering the product that the studio wants within budget?" The fact that there are stories floating around about concerns regarding Wrights lack of "coverage" when shooting is a pretty good indication that the studio might be worried along these lines. For Wrights smaller quirkier films he can get buy with shooting less and working in reshoots if he doesn't like something. Heck I think his Simon Pegg stuff was shot on film? So minimizing that is budget cutting. He came up through BBC and British television where this is a common approach. But on a summer blockbuster? reshoots cost an order of magnitude more than just throwing a few extra cameras and cameramen at primary shooting.
And the simple fact is sometimes studios and good skilled directors with drooling fan bases do legitimately have creative differences. They do not always agree with what direction to take a project. Heck Joss Wheedon and Warner Brothers had such with Wonder Woman. He wanted to do a classic WW2 set Wonder Woman. They wanted a modern action adventure. He was replaced. (granted one would think in hindsight they are probably kicking themselves.)
Edgar Wright was the key reason I was mostly interested in this one. Hearing he is no longer on the project has made me very hesitant about it now.
Likewise. I don't really have any interest in Ant-Man as a character right now, if anything would have made me go and see this film, it would have been the fact that it was directed by Edgar Wright. Most likely, this is another one I'll just wait and watch it later...SomebodyNowhere said:
I didn't particularly like the two Edgar Wright movies I've seen (namely Hot Fuzz and Scott Pilgrim vs The World) so I'm not as bent out of shape over this as other people. I think Marvel will probably find a suitable replacement; but failing that I don't think one stinker is nearly enough to sink the MCU.
While I like Edgar Wright, I didn't like his last foray into comics (Scott Pilgrim...). That more or less is why I wasn't up in arms thrilled to hear he was directing. I don't know how well this will translate to film either so I was wary and still am, as much as I like Paul Rudd (and really want him to succeed as an actor beyond comedy).
It's sounds then like I've just added another movie I'm gonna watch afterwards on dvd or something. I just happen to know nothing about the character nor care about it, and now this.
I'm leaning towards Wright wanting to put more of him into the movie than Marvel wanted.
I'm leaning towards Wright wanting to put more of him into the movie than Marvel wanted.
Thought just occurred: since Edgar Wright isn't doing Ant-Man...he should walk across the street to Fox and direct Deadpool. It'd be PERFECT.
"In a shocking turn of events that stunned the film industry..."
Oh, please. This isn't Channel Nine Action News.
Anyway, I was already expecting Ant Man to be the first big letdown from Marvel, and now it looks all the more likely.
Oh, please. This isn't Channel Nine Action News.
Anyway, I was already expecting Ant Man to be the first big letdown from Marvel, and now it looks all the more likely.