Educating Annoying Ignorances

[Saulkar]

Atheists who attack organized religion, well, religiously. They talk about how they get religion rammed down their throat, completely unaware that they are doing the exact same thing.

I myself don't believe in god or the after life and all those other religious things but I don't think you should put someone down for being religious. Don't like religion? Don't be religious.

One reason I immediately and involuntarily cringe whenever someone tells me they are an atheist is because of all of the hyper aggressive militant atheist I encounter online and real life that attack me both on the intellectual and personal level.(I encounter just as many conservative Christian nut jobs as well but none were as aggressive) It does not matter how smart I am, it does not matter how decent of a person I am, I have a different belief or lack of belief from them and thus I am an unsympathetic outsider worthy of nothing but their scorn.

I wish I had met more atheists like you instead of the aforementioned ones because I feel an irrational fear or aggression whenever someone mentions that they are an atheist because I have been conditioned to feel (not believe) that atheism and an atheist's lifestyle surrounding it is their sole pursuit in life and everything else comes second.

The constant, unprovoked preachings I have received from many atheists and intellectuals (that I have now distanced myself from) have left me fairly bitter and with a very skewed understanding of what I do and do not believe right now combined with a desire to avoid actual theological discussion altogether to avoid debates that seem designed to make me solely see the other person's point of view neglecting my own and in turn preventing my own spiritual self discovery.

I am a Deist by the way in case you were wondering.

 

[Byere]

oh gawd.. the stories I could tell.

If you want to talk ignorance, think about this. When I worked at my local Co-op (a chain retail store here in England, I worked in the food/grocery side of the business). I cannot tell you how often I had customers come up to me, demanding that something was wrong and when they wouldn't listen to me when I SHOWED them it was wrong (for example, prices or what items were on a deal), I got a supervisor and then they would still not accept that they were in the wrong... just because "The customer is always right".

That kind of ignorance pisses me off.

 

[ChadSexington]

Atheists who attack organized religion, well, religiously. They talk about how they get religion rammed down their throat, completely unaware that they are doing the exact same thing.

I myself don't believe in god or the after life and all those other religious things but I don't think you should put someone down for being religious. Don't like religion? Don't be religious.

One reason I immediately and involuntarily cringe whenever someone tells me they are an atheist is because of all of the hyper aggressive militant atheist I encounter online and real life that attack me both on the intellectual and personal level.(I encounter just as many conservative Christian nut jobs as well but none were as aggressive) It does not matter how smart I am, it does not matter how decent of a person I am, I have a different belief or lack of belief from them and thus I am an unsympathetic outsider worthy of nothing but their scorn.

I wish I had met more atheists like you instead of the aforementioned ones because I feel an irrational fear or aggression whenever someone mentions that they are an atheist because I have been conditioned to feel (not believe) that atheism and an atheist's lifestyle surrounding it is their sole pursuit in life and everything else comes second.

The constant, unprovoked preachings I have received from many atheists and intellectuals (that I have now distanced myself from) have left me fairly bitter and with a very skewed understanding of what I do and do not believe right now combined with a desire to avoid actual theological discussion altogether to avoid debates that seem designed to make me solely see the other person's point of view neglecting my own and in turn preventing my own spiritual self discovery.

I am a Deist by the way in case you were wondering.

To be honest I was quite forceful of atheism when I was younger, one day I just realized that there was no need. I'm quite glad I had this realization and I'm sorry you've had to endure so much harassment and aggression. It never leads anywhere, all it does is make both sides angry.

The worst thing about being an atheist for me is far from religious oppression, it's people telling me "funny" stories about how they "owned" some religious morons. It's frustrating as hell to think that they've spent so much of their time attacking others for their beliefs and that for them, that's entertaining.

I've never been attacked for my lack of belief, I've had people tell me I need to embrace god and save my soul but all it takes to avoid that is "No thank you." It annoys me to no end that atheists will speak of extremists and the nasty religious people who constantly try to convert others as if they're above that.

 

[StarsintheBlood]

People not acknowledging aesexuality as a legitimate orientation. I know that phonetically, "I'm aesexual" sounds like an incomplete sentence, but even after I explain it they either don't understand or don't believe me. I am admittedly in high school, so I suppose telling hormonal classmates that you feel no sexual attraction to any gender is a silly thing to do...
BUT for god's sake, DO NOT tell me it's impossible, that I'm just confused, that I'm afraid of sex, or that I've just not fully matured yet.
Oh, and if you try to "change my mind" as some kind of sick conquest or accomplishment, I will punch you in the face. Repeatedly.
This is just... I find it extremely irksome.

 

[Zeema]

Faith Healing.

Every now and then, you'll hear a story about parents who have a sick child, but refuse medical treatment because "if they have faith, God will heal their child."

These are the people who you HAVE to sit down and give a reality check to on the existence of deitei, because their stupidity is hurting someone else.

Agreed.

i also highly dislike it when parent's and with there kids and there in a museum. then you see a big sign that say's 'DO NOT TOUCH THIS BOAT'

[Kid touches boat Alarm goes off. Kid runs up to his mum]

then the mum says stuff like 'oh its not your fault, the Alarm is faulty [lie]. don't worry its not your fault.'

it annoys me so much, you gotta let your son know that he did something wrong and he has to receive a punishment for doing the wrong thing.

 

[Syzygy23]

* Bronies - please stop spamming my preferred sites and forums with your multicoloured bullshit. If you like it, fine, but MLP has fuck-all to do with BMW's and are about as welcome on my Facebook wall as Jesus is (i.e not-very).

* People who own cars / bikes and have no idea how to look after them - It's NOT hard!

* People who own cars / bikes and don't insure them - It's the law you twats and it's honest motorists like myself that have to pay for YOUR accidents!

* People who own cars / bikes, don't insure them and think it's acceptable / funny - I've already reported one of these loathesome people to the Police and I'd do it again!

* Using the word "loose" instead of "lose" - you do NOT "loose" your mind / car-keys / virginity, you LOSE it, you thick fuck...sorry...*breathes into a paper bag*

* Cars have "brakes", not "breaks" - Brakes make things stop whilst breaks are what you take when you are tired.

* Religion - Enough said.

Wardy

What, did Jesus get your sister pregnant and refuses to pay child support now or something?

 

[Syzygy23]

Atheists who attack organized religion, well, religiously. They talk about how they get religion rammed down their throat, completely unaware that they are doing the exact same thing.

I myself don't believe in god or the after life and all those other religious things but I don't think you should put someone down for being religious. Don't like religion? Don't be religious.

One reason I immediately and involuntarily cringe whenever someone tells me they are an atheist is because of all of the hyper aggressive militant atheist I encounter online and real life that attack me both on the intellectual and personal level.(I encounter just as many conservative Christian nut jobs as well but none were as aggressive) It does not matter how smart I am, it does not matter how decent of a person I am, I have a different belief or lack of belief from them and thus I am an unsympathetic outsider worthy of nothing but their scorn.

I wish I had met more atheists like you instead of the aforementioned ones because I feel an irrational fear or aggression whenever someone mentions that they are an atheist because I have been conditioned to feel (not believe) that atheism and an atheist's lifestyle surrounding it is their sole pursuit in life and everything else comes second.

The constant, unprovoked preachings I have received from many atheists and intellectuals (that I have now distanced myself from) have left me fairly bitter and with a very skewed understanding of what I do and do not believe right now combined with a desire to avoid actual theological discussion altogether to avoid debates that seem designed to make me solely see the other person's point of view neglecting my own and in turn preventing my own spiritual self discovery.

I am a Deist by the way in case you were wondering.

To be honest I was quite forceful of atheism when I was younger, one day I just realized that there was no need. I'm quite glad I had this realization and I'm sorry you've had to endure so much harassment and aggression. It never leads anywhere, all it does is make both sides angry.

The worst thing about being an atheist for me is far from religious oppression, it's people telling me "funny" stories about how they "owned" some religious morons. It's frustrating as hell to think that they've spent so much of their time attacking others for their beliefs and that for them, that's entertaining.

I've never been attacked for my lack of belief, I've had people tell me I need to embrace god and save my soul but all it takes to avoid that is "No thank you." It annoys me to no end that atheists will speak of extremists and the nasty religious people who constantly try to convert others as if they're above that.

Human beings hate being wrong. The best way to prove you are right is to put people you think are wrong in their place so you can give yourself a mental pat on the back.

I used to be atheist, and was pretty big douche about it. Then I got into an argument with someone WAY smarter than I am, and they made me think long and hard about what I really believed. Now I'm of the religious bent. Except I ask questions about the 2,000+ year old, translated-many-times, written-by-corruptible-humans account of God and His works instead of simply taking the contents at face value.

The way I see it, if a man can design and build a car, or a computer, why can't an entity on a much more lovecraftian scale do the same, only instead of a car it's a universe?

 

[New Troll]

oh gawd.. the stories I could tell.

If you want to talk ignorance, think about this. When I worked at my local Co-op (a chain retail store here in England, I worked in the food/grocery side of the business). I cannot tell you how often I had customers come up to me, demanding that something was wrong and when they wouldn't listen to me when I SHOWED them it was wrong (for example, prices or what items were on a deal), I got a supervisor and then they would still not accept that they were in the wrong... just because "The customer is always right".

That kind of ignorance pisses me off.

Haha, this reminded me of a customer I had last week who really wanted a laptop I had personally marked down, but was trying to talk me down to a lower price. I kept telling them I couldn't go any lower and I was giving the lowest price they'd get from anyone in the store because I'm more concerned with getting rid of the product to make room for new merchandise where-as my managers are more concerned with getting as much out of the customer as they can. They refused to believe me and demanded to talk to a supervisor. They ended up leaving without the laptop they wanted so badly because my manager only would allow me to take 10% off retail price. I had 40% off. Customers shot themselves in their own feet.

And that reminds me of pawn stores. I've been watching Pawn Stars lately and it always amuses me when the customer will find out what an item is worth, yet still demands more. Either be reasonable or move on. And I also love it when they use the term "sentimental!" Like that has any value what-so-ever to anyone else in the world!

 

[Chairman Miaow]

I don't mind intensive purposes, in that I remember much mocking of a guy who said that while trying to impress us with his write wordy skills.

Generally, eh, I could care less.

Was trying to think of something but you just dropped it in my lap. It is "couldn't care less" not "could care less".

This is relevant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

 

[Varrdy]

Anti-furry ignorance is one I'd like to destroy. People act like every furry is some messed-up zoophile or something. It's just plain wrong, and statistically most furries aren't even into the "yiff" stuff anyway....

Too-right! I am a very un-furry furry (if that makes sense) but I love furs and a vast majority of my friends are furs.

Also, for the record, whenever I hear / read the word "yff" / "yiffy" / "yiffing" it makes me want to smash things because it's one of the most annoying, twee words ever!

Wardy

 

[Varrdy]

What, did Jesus get your sister pregnant and refuses to pay child support now or something?

Of course not, that would be ridiculous!

I don't have a sister!

Wardy

 

[Chairman Miaow]

Also, I saw a sign which said "get results 140% sooner!"

So I get my results before I even ask for them? I don't think we should be messing with powers like that.

 

[Queen Michael]

I can relate to that. I dont like when people say that anime is only made in Japan or asian countries. Thats probably because one of my favorites is French.

I can relate to that. I don't like it when people think that manga isn't manga unless it was made in Japan. Frédéric Boilet might be French, but his comics give me more of a manga feeling than many Japanese mangaka.

And let's not forget that the only really established meaning of the word manga is "comics." Not "big-eyed comics," or "comics read right-to-left," just "comics." So when I get into an argument about that kind of thing, I tell people that. And add "So when I say that the word "manga" can be used about this comic, I've got over one hundred million Japanese people who agree with me. You think you know this stuff better than the entire population of Japan?"

Yes, but you don't live in Japan, do you? One word can mean different things across cultures. "Pants" means pants in American English but means "underwear" in Japanese. Consider even the different meanings that words like "biscuit" and "pudding" have in British English.

So yes, while "manga" means "comic" in Japanese, as a loanword it means "Japanese comic."

Separate issue: Midi-chlorians does not equal "The Force," they are just the middle-man between living things and said "Force." George Lucas, no matter what else he may have done to ruin the Star Wars franchise, he did not retcon a mystical energy field into microscopic bacteria.

First of all, I agree 100% on the Star Wars thing. Secondly, I'll admit that you're right about the loanword thing too, because it still means that people have a way too limited definition of what "manga" means. I've had it with people who think that it has to look like Sailor Moon to be manga.

 

[Queen Michael]

Anti-furry ignorance is one I'd like to destroy. People act like every furry is some messed-up zoophile or something. It's just plain wrong, and statistically most furries aren't even into the "yiff" stuff anyway. The really freaking creepy ones (AKA the only ones that ever show up on TV by some magical media manipulation) and the people who post dirty stuff in completely unnecessary places make us all look bad. Then a bunch of furs come out of nowhere when someone bashes the fandom or makes a joke at its expense (which I usually join in the laughter about, myself...) and they make terrible fools of themselves trying to argue with others.

Whenever I see the whole "kill it with fire" thing because the term "furry" happened to come up, I Ultra-Facepalm. It's just ignorant, and stupid at that. There are quite a few creepy furs out there, but that's nowhere near the majority of us.

Agreed. A friend of mine said that she thought that furries are mentally ill. I asked why, and she said that wanting to have sex with anthropomorphic animals isn't really healthy. I told her (and by "told her" I mean "yelled at her") that for most furries, it's not a sex thing.

 

[Knife]

I know that wasn't your point, but you just drew my attention on the phrase "twice smaller". What's that even supposed to mean? Smallness can't be measured. There just isn't a value or unit for it. You might be able to define one by saying that smallness=1/size, as we do with resistivity or conductivity depending on the situation, which would mean that "twice as small" actually means "half as big", but even that would be incorrect, because you actually said "twice smaller". So the object would be smaller than the other one by two iterations. Since I live in a metric country, the basic iteration for length would be a meter. That would result in (since you were comparing to fists) about -1.8 meters (for a large fist). That is not possible, so, as an engineer, I presume the next likely iteration: 1 millimeter. So you can shoot something a little smaller than a fist (keeping with the "large fist" I proposed, about 18mm) if it is not moving.

The same happens all the time. People even say "twice larger" or something like that if they mean "twice as large". Supposing their basic increment in this case was the size of the object, what they actually said was "three times as large".

Twice simply means two times, times implies multiplication not addition. When you say "3 times 2" you mean 2*3=6 not 2+1+1+1=5. Iterations have absolutely nothing to do with it. If I would have said "smaller by two" or "smaller by twice" (which makes no sense) then you'd have a point about two iterations. But if you really want to nitpick I meant objects that are twice as small or half as big or whose size is 50% of the original size (but you already knew that).

Now I'm no medic, but from what little I know of first aid external bleeding can usually be stopped pretty quickly and efficiently and people can survive amputated limbs, no such luck with torso injuries. While a leg injury could potentially be deadly so could the common cold, just because something is as possible doesn't mean it is as likely.

I got a pretty good education on emergency medicine, and internal bleeding, no matter in which bodypart, is almost certainly deadly unless the injured person undergoes surgery within a few minutes. It does take a while before someone goes unconscious from a leg wound, though, so even with a badly damaged leg artery, they can still be quite dangerous, despite being doomed to die. I think that's what he was referring to.

And that's why I said external bleeding not internal, or do my eyes deceive me and my memory fails me? A shot to the leg is less likely to cause internal bleeding than a shot to the torso. And there is always the option of applying a tourniquet when we are talking about a wounded limb (and if the wounded gets to the hospital in less than 2 hours he may actually keep his limb attached), which is impossible on a torso. If wounded soldiers in the middle of the desert can survive limb wounds long enough to get to a hospital (though not everyone does) then I doubt it is much harder in an urban setting where an ambulance is just a phone call away.

Edit: As I have already pointed out several times, in real life someone with a badly damaged leg artery would be lucky to make a shot, let alone one that hits anyone.

 

[Arsen]

People who care about things they consider ignorant but are really their petty, terminological definitions of things that may fall under a single term in the eyes of another?

 

[FireAza]

But every day I will get customers asking for "Sony iPods" or "generic iPods." Every single time.

I've always found is really bizarre that customers ask for "generic" versions of complex electronic devices. This isn't medication or something! You can't just slap together the same ingredients and have something that's identical, yet not the original brand! Manufacturing the exact same product would be an expensive venture (hence, not cheaper) and would violate multiple patents. Did you mean "compatible" or "3rd party"?

 

[Stu35]

People who care about things they consider ignorant but are really their petty, terminological definitions of things that may fall under a single term in the eyes of another?

This. So, very very much of this.

I know an awful lot of very specific terminology about a lot of things, for example, I know the difference between a Schooner and a Sloop (I dunno why I know that, or why I'm using it as an example, but hey ho), and yet to the majority of people they're just boats, the differences ultimately being irrelevant.

And yet, I know there's someone out there who would feel the need to point out the difference to someone who, ultimately, doesn't care.

 

[Terminate421]

Here's a good one:
People who believe in religion are not nut jobs, nut jobs who are religious just make us look bad

 

[Joshimodo]

One that seems to have an actual affect on me almost daily is the ignorance of people not being able to understand that although a show has been made for small children, if it's extremely well made, we can all enjoy it immensely

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>w>

Though it being plastered everywhere is annoying.