Educating Annoying Ignorances

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flyingwithsharks

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Saulkar said:
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Atheists who attack organized religion, well, religiously. They talk about how they get religion rammed down their throat, completely unaware that they are doing the exact same thing.

I myself don't believe in god or the after life and all those other religious things but I don't think you should put someone down for being religious. Don't like religion? Don't be religious.
One reason I immediately and involuntarily cringe whenever someone tells me they are an atheist is because of all of the hyper aggressive militant atheist I encounter online and real life that attack me both on the intellectual and personal level.(I encounter just as many conservative Christian nut jobs as well but none were as aggressive) It does not matter how smart I am, it does not matter how decent of a person I am, I have a different belief or lack of belief from them and thus I am an unsympathetic outsider worthy of nothing but their scorn.

I wish I had met more atheists like you instead of the aforementioned ones because I feel an irrational fear or aggression whenever someone mentions that they are an atheist because I have been conditioned to feel (not believe) that atheism and an atheist's lifestyle surrounding it is their sole pursuit in life and everything else comes second.

The constant, unprovoked preachings I have received from many atheists and intellectuals (that I have now distanced myself from) have left me fairly bitter and with a very skewed understanding of what I do and do not believe right now combined with a desire to avoid actual theological discussion altogether to avoid debates that seem designed to make me solely see the other person's point of view neglecting my own and in turn preventing my own spiritual self discovery.

I am a Deist by the way in case you were wondering.
Don't worry, we hate those guys too. We try to distance ourselves from them as much as gamers try to keep away from the ones who think they are really Ezio Auditore.

I don't think it's because they're atheists, though. I think it's a personality thing and that even if they were Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or a member of the church of The Fonz they'd still be the same.

Personally I don't care what you believe, but I guess people can be religious nutjobs even if they aren't religious.


OT: I could care less about peoples spelling and grammer when their writing and if you disagree your wrong
 

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FireAza said:
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But every day I will get customers asking for "Sony iPods" or "generic iPods." Every single time.
I've always found is really bizarre that customers ask for "generic" versions of complex electronic devices. This isn't medication or something! You can't just slap together the same ingredients and have something that's identical, yet not the original brand! Manufacturing the exact same product would be an expensive venture (hence, not cheaper) and would violate multiple patents. Did you mean "compatible" or "3rd party"?
3rd Party would definitely be a much better term to use, but we're dealing with people's ignorance here so... ;)

But I do totally agree. Why buy an off-hand version when you have to realize it's not the same thing? These are the same customers who complain to me about having to buy a new gaming controller every month cause they never last. I inquire as to which controllers they're buying and every single time they respond with the cheaper 3rd party controllers. Then I get the pleasure of trying to explain to them how not only are their controllers not lasting as long, but also generally not working as well also. And then I watch as they buy the same cheap piece of garbage they just got done complaining about. Yes, I should be excited because not only am I guaranteed another purchase from them come next month, but the 3rd party accessories usually have a much higher mark-up too! But no, I always feel like I'm letting the world down.
 

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Trezu said:
i also highly dislike it when parent's and with there kids and there in a museum. then you see a big sign that say's 'DO NOT TOUCH THIS BOAT'

[Kid touches boat Alarm goes off. Kid runs up to his mum]

then the mum says stuff like 'oh its not your fault, the Alarm is faulty [lie]. don't worry its not your fault.'

it annoys me so much, you gotta let your son know that he did something wrong and he has to receive a punishment for doing the wrong thing.
Don't punish the child. Punish the parent for letting the child do something the child had no clue they weren't allowed to do. But yes I agree, the parent needs to "teach" their child on rights and wrongs, not just leave it up to someone else to do. Parents need to take more responsibility for their offspring.

And this reminds me of something similar. The First Lady Obama is fighting for healthier lunches in schools. And she has been getting a LOT of flak for it from people saying government shouldn't be getting involved in a parent's responsibility. BUT, if parents were doing their job to begin with, this wouldn't be an issue at all. I am far from being political, but to me everyone up on their soapboxes against this just seem like uncaring, anti-Obama hypocrites.
 

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1.When people are reading something out loud and they find a word they dont know how to pronounce or whatever, so the just say a completely different word that is spelled like it. i.e, they say insure instead of insulate

2.When one of my friends spend or want to spend ridiculous amounts of money on an off-the-shelf PC, so I point out why its unnecessary and they just say something like "Wow, nerd." I want to punch them in the face every time.

EDIT: 3.When I say something that even remotely disagrees with their religion and they immediately respond with "You're going to Hell."

Me: Well I think that evolution has a lot of evidence going for it.

Friend: Well you're going to Hell.

Me: I don't believe in Hell.

Friend: When the Second Coming happens you'll go to Hell.

Me: I just died a little inside.
 

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MajorTomServo said:
Velociraptors, and the fact that they were feathered.

No one ever seems to depict them with feathers though. Friggin Jurassic Park.

At least Pokemon gets it...

Well, that and the fact that Velociraptors are actually that size of large chickens. The dinosaurs depicted in Jurassic Park are closer to Utah Raptors, but Utah Raptor is a hell of a lot less threatening sounding then Velociraptor. Which is probably the main reason behind the name switch in the book.



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There are many ways of being human, and our species has evolved to the point where specialization is more preferable over the generalization that was once needed for survival. So while it may be annoying gaps in knowledge is perfectly normal, because human culture has developed to the point were we are or more able to rely on others for things we have no interest in, in order to specialize in things we are interested in.

Another point I found interesting about this thread is that the things people are finding annoying that people don't know is usually things related to the field in which they themselves have chosen to specialize in. The techie finds it annoying when people generalize name brands as specific types of device, while the mechanic finds it annoying that people know nothing about the cars the hurl down the road. It is a good illustration how humans tend to believe that their way of doing things is right, or more important then others' way of doing this.
 

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Hipsy_Gypsy said:
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I don't know exactly how common either of these are anymore, but just a few years ago I couldn't seem to escape them.
*A-chem*
British is NOT shorthand for English, there are three whole other countries in there.

On a similar note, for the love of God DO NOT make the mistake of thinking the WHOLE of Ireland is part of Britain, ESPESSIALLY if you are talking to someone actually from Ireland.
Ohh, it bugs me when people say "North of Ireland" as opposed to "Northern Ireland" because the north of Ireland consists of counties Donegal and Monaghan, haha. Mind you, I'm a wee bit tolerant of people saying I'm Irish, but usually only whenever they're referring to the whole island. I'd prefer to live down south anyway! That reminds me; I'm suppose to be heading to Kent in the summer months as part of a film crew but I've been hearing things about how the mainlands won't accept Northern Irish money. It's absurd though, because it's the same currency. Apparently Scottish folk have the same problem. I hope that doesn't happen but it'll be their own fault if I hand them all my change! Where are you from, out of curiosity?
There's actually a comedy sketch somewhere about that very problem.
I'm from America, why so curious?
 

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RoBi3.0 said:
Another point I found interesting about this thread is that the things people are finding annoying that people don't know is usually things related to the field in which they themselves have chosen to specialize in. The techie finds it annoying when people generalize name brands as specific types of device, while the mechanic finds it annoying that people know nothing about the cars the hurl down the road. It is a good illustration how humans tend to believe that their way of doing things is right, or more important then others' way of doing this.
Again, as I stated every one, and I mean EVERYONE, has ignorance. This is just a place to vent on what ignorances annoy you personally in your life. Which makes sense most would involve daily aspects of their life.

i.e. I work in electronics retail so most annoyances I encounter will be electronics related. I don't spend any time at all in bars so I have no annoyances drink related. I play on-line through Steam and PSN so I'm not going to encounter XBox Live annoyances, though I know they're out there.
 

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When people say they are agnostic. That doesn't mean anything. I can be agnostic about colors, because I have no preference in them, you have to say that you are religiously agnostic for it to mean anything.
 

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Connor Lonske said:
Not tech related, but people who think pansexuality is the same as bisexuality(it's not), or those who haven't heard of pansexuality and are like "what" or "that's stupid" or even "you're going to hell for you sexuality, why don't you change??".

And some of these people I've even seen here on the Escapist. It's insane.
Can I ask, what -is- the difference?

As far as I'm aware...

Bisexual = Attracted to males and females.
Pansexual = Attracted to all genders.

Which is kind of the same thing. :/


I'm not trying to be confrontational, I literally just want someone to explain what the difference between the two terms is! :(
 

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"yeah..but racers and platformers are just better on console"

WHY?

is it the controlls? if you dont liek mouse/keyboard just get a gamepad..problems solved

and if you dont like mouse/keyboard that much then why are you attempting to play sich game son a PC?
 

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Vault101 said:
"yeah..but racers and platformers are just better on console"

WHY?

is it the controlls? if you dont liek mouse/keyboard just get a gamepad..problems solved

and if you dont like mouse/keyboard that much then why are you attempting to play sich game son a PC?
This reminded me of something else I always dread hearing... "Lets get Call of Duty on Wii because it's cheaper!" Seems to a lot of people, if it's on multiple systems, it has to be the exact same. They never think about stuff like hardware restrictions or modding capabilities. It's all the exact same damn it! :p
 

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SirBryghtside said:
From what I can tell (could be wrong here), Pansexuality means that you don't 'see' them as male or female, you just see them as people. Which leads me to believe that there are also a lot of people who think they're bisexual who are actually Pan.
Or alternatively there are a lot of bisexual people who identify as pansexual and are actually just pretentious dicks.

*shrugs*

There's too much labelling and attempting to define sexuality in the world for my liking, some people like men, some like women, some like both, some like neither, and every bastard thing inbetween... Why can't we all just shag who we want without having to argue semantics.
 

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MajorTomServo said:
Velociraptors, and the fact that they were feathered.

No one ever seems to depict them with feathers though. Friggin Jurassic Park.

At least Pokemon gets it...

Well, that's kind of a recent fact compared to Jurassic Park, and most people still don't know (they should really start getting it, you've got a point there).
By the way, that's an Archaeopteryx, not a Velociraptor.
 

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Trezu said:
i also highly dislike it when parent's and with there kids and there in a museum. then you see a big sign that say's 'DO NOT TOUCH THIS BOAT'

[Kid touches boat Alarm goes off. Kid runs up to his mum]

then the mum says stuff like 'oh its not your fault, the Alarm is faulty [lie]. don't worry its not your fault.'

it annoys me so much, you gotta let your son know that he did something wrong and he has to receive a punishment for doing the wrong thing.
Don't punish the child. Punish the parent for letting the child do something the child had no clue they weren't allowed to do. But yes I agree, the parent needs to "teach" their child on rights and wrongs, not just leave it up to someone else to do. Parents need to take more responsibility for their offspring.

And this reminds me of something similar. The First Lady Obama is fighting for healthier lunches in schools. And she has been getting a LOT of flak for it from people saying government shouldn't be getting involved in a parent's responsibility. BUT, if parents were doing their job to begin with, this wouldn't be an issue at all. I am far from being political, but to me everyone up on their soapboxes against this just seem like uncaring, anti-Obama hypocrites.
I heard and read the American government now considers pizza a vegetable. Foolish Americans!

Wait, how is the food that is served in SCHOOLS the parents' responsibility?
 

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Chunga the Great said:
1.When people are reading something out loud and they find a word they dont know how to pronounce or whatever, so the just say a completely different word that is spelled like it. i.e, they say insure instead of insulate

2.When one of my friends spend or want to spend ridiculous amounts of money on an off-the-shelf PC, so I point out why its unnecessary and they just say something like "Wow, nerd." I want to punch them in the face every time.

EDIT: 3.When I say something that even remotely disagrees with their religion and they immediately respond with "You're going to Hell."

Me: Well I think that evolution has a lot of evidence going for it.

Friend: Well you're going to Hell.

Me: I don't believe in Hell.

Friend: When the Second Coming happens you'll go to Hell.

Me: I just died a little inside.
And that little bit of you is also going to Hell.
 

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Nokshor said:
Connor Lonske said:
Not tech related, but people who think pansexuality is the same as bisexuality(it's not), or those who haven't heard of pansexuality and are like "what" or "that's stupid" or even "you're going to hell for you sexuality, why don't you change??".

And some of these people I've even seen here on the Escapist. It's insane.
Can I ask, what -is- the difference?

As far as I'm aware...

Bisexual = Attracted to males and females.
Pansexual = Attracted to all genders.

Which is kind of the same thing. :/


I'm not trying to be confrontational, I literally just want someone to explain what the difference between the two terms is! :(
Because there ARE more than two genders. You could be a male by sex by a female by gender. You could be a female by gender but want to be gender neutral. You could be a male who wants to look like a female but doesn't have a sex change, or a drag queen or drag king even.

Even sex can have grey area (due to surgery). You could be a hermaphrodite of ether original sex and a pansexual would accept you.

Really, there are so many possibilities for people to identify themselves, that having bisexual be the only sexuality to accept them is just silly. Not to mention the linguist advantage (Pan meaning "all" and bi meaning "two").

Really, I don't see why most people are more aware of this sort of thing. If they were, then maybe I would have to argue with them over the existence of pansexuality all the damn time.
 

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Thaliur said:
Queen Michael said:
I think AMV is supposed to mean "Anime Music Video," though I can't remember where I heard that.
ExileNZ said:
Fair's fair, AMVs were "anime music videos" first - I'd never even heard the term with "animated" before I read your post but I'm presuming that's the current compromise.
Not that AMVs with western series weren't around beforehand, they just didn't go by that name.
Still, since "Anime" is actually just a Japanese short version of the English word "animation", the meaning remains the same, no matter how you interpret the abbreviation (Since "Anime" is itself an abbreviation of "Animation").
There is just so much wrong with that logic, but let me give the short answer.

Whatever it's origin, "anime" refers (unambiguously) to Japanese animations.

Unless you want to try to tell me that "famicom" still refers to any "family computer" aside from the old NES.

Or that the word "nice" still means "retarded" in the pejorative sense, as that was the original abbreviated form of "nescio" (literally "I don't know") the Romans used ~2000 years ago.

So no, the meaning doesn't remain the same. Not only has it changed context (or at least become more nuanced), but it's changed languages, twice.
 

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Chunga the Great said:
1.When people are reading something out loud and they find a word they dont know how to pronounce or whatever, so the just say a completely different word that is spelled like it. i.e, they say insure instead of insulate
I don't think that they are willfully saying the wrong word. When we read, we read the word as a whole, not letter by letter, so when someone comes across insulate when they are reading, and hasn't seen it enough to recognize it automatically, their brain reads insure, a word they know and looks similar without even noticing.
 

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Mau95 said:
I heard and read the American government now considers pizza a vegetable. Foolish Americans!

Wait, how is the food that is served in SCHOOLS the parents' responsibility?
Pizza isn't a vegetable! It's a whole nutritious meal covering all the food groups! ;)

Doesn't make a great deal of sense to me either, but it's something along the lines of restricting children's choices of meals which only their parent should have the right to do or something. Don't look at me; back when I was in school we never had any options like they do today. We either got the grub of the day or we brown-bagged it.
 

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New Troll said:
Vault101 said:
"yeah..but racers and platformers are just better on console"

WHY?

is it the controlls? if you dont liek mouse/keyboard just get a gamepad..problems solved

and if you dont like mouse/keyboard that much then why are you attempting to play sich game son a PC?
This reminded me of something else I always dread hearing... "Lets get Call of Duty on Wii because it's cheaper!" Seems to a lot of people, if it's on multiple systems, it has to be the exact same. They never think about stuff like hardware restrictions or modding capabilities. It's all the exact same damn it! :p
I think I once saw call of duty black ops....on a wii

like....WHAT? how much butchering would that game have to go through to get on a wii?