Education & Failure

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Bertylicious

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Several months ago a fellow on Radio 4 told a story about birds having a race and everybody receiving prizes. This refers to the Dodo Bird Verdict, the origin of which comes from Alice in Wonderland:

A bunch of characters get wet and one of them, a dodo bird, suggests having a race around a lake to get dry. All the characters run off in different directions round the lake and dry off. They then ask the Dodo who was the winner. As there was no structure and nobody really paying attention to what was going on, the Dodo furrows its brow for a moment and then declares "everyone has won and all must have prizes".

The analogy is, according to Wikipedia, most used to refer to a problem within psychiatry as it appears that different forms of approach yield similar results, however the fellow on the radio was using it to talk about education and that is what I want to ask you.

The argument is that if all education yields equal merit, if nobody can be deemed to have failed their education, then education as a standard of measure becomes worthless. On the flip side, however, if you deem it possible for people to fail their education then you are kind of throwing those people away. I was pretty rubbish at school, I have a terrible memory and wrecked attention from massive depression, so never went on to higher education but often wonder what might have been if we didn't have a grading system and I'd just gone on to university for the sake of learning and going to university.

Now a lot of you folks are youngsters in university and most of the rest of you are university educated types working in professional fields, so I am curious as to your take on failure in education. Any thoughts?
 

DugMachine

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Load of crap to me. Busted my ass in school. If you have actual learning disabilities sure but being lazy or rather wanting to be gaming/on the interwebz is not an excuse for crap grades. "Oh but I actually pay attention in class!" Then apply what skills you learn. Retaining knowledge means fuck all if you can't use the information.

edit: Er double post thread? I'll copy/pasta this :p
 

Angie7F

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I have a mixed idea when it comes to this.
I think just because you do well in school, it does not make you successful.
However, i also look down on people who did not even try, or are just simply dumb.
So i totally support the idea of education being a standard of measure, but not totally.

maybe I am a super elitist that only like someone that has a combination of high education and high intelligence.

i dunno...
 

jetriot

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Education is not the only standard of worth in our society. It is only one part of many. Other standards of worth include beauty, wealth, popularity and social service(for example taking a career in the military, as a teacher, being a nun, etc.).

Education is held in high regard in a place like the escapist forums, but in the real world it is far from being the only measurement of worth. In fact, being smart in our society may grant many rewards, but having a strong work ethic and strong people skills will typically get you much farther in life.

We all have positive and negative traits that help and handicap us in life. How we decide to apply them and create success is entirely up to us.