Eidos: New Deus Ex Game is "Kind of a Reboot"

[ItsAPaul]

So there's no reason not to get it for PC still, gotcha.

 

[mad825]

hmm, I dont care so long as the story is good, my gut is stabbing my stomach that its going to a love story or at least turn into some hybrid JRPG

 

[Xero Scythe]

"The experience will be the same on PS3, Xbox 360, and PC. The same mechanics - everything is the same,"

Read: "By catering to the weaknesses of the weakest platform we minimize production costs, but it's easier to sell the idea by calling it an 'equal experience.'"

At least it isn't on the wii. I wouldn't even consider it them. However, I saw this on the gamestop website about a day before this, and it looked interesting. Playing DX on the xbox I think will be interesting.

 

[Sebenko]

I seem to remember them saying something like that about Deadspace. It sucked hard on PC.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Hmmm, similar across consoles and the PC, sounds like they're all going to suck. Loved Deus Ex, but I tried to play it on the Playstation 2, emphasis on tried. Afraid the projects going to be bogged down because everything has work for both consoles and computers.

I played it first on PS2. I remember the controls being pretty awful and was on the verge of returning it to the store. However, I happened to glance at a magazine review which said it was mouse compatible.

I double checked the box and no mention of it there - but I tried it, plugged in a USB mouse and man, totally different game, much better. Aiming actually worked now

As for the reboot thing, meh, pointless - makes me feel like they're just cashing in on the name. Things like that always feel hollow to me. If it's not a continuation of the series they need to start a new franchise imo.

 

[Doug]

So long the in-game graphics resemble something what we have seen in the Trailer and you don't betray the original amazing Deus Ex, count me in, good sir.

Sadly, I fear they will... I want to hope, but I can't trust. Especially after Square-Enix where given the job of cutscene maker...just doesn't look right.

Some gameplay footage for me to see would raise my spirits no end, I think, but at present, they choose to make me more suspicious by only showing it to the press so far.

 

[CopperBoom]

If it stands alone, why could you just not use the name of a series I already love?
If you are worthy I will love you too.

 

[Lawyer105]

As long as the gameplay is more like DE1 than DE2... DE2's gameplay was terrible. Stupid auto-aim helpers and mushy controls. They tried to make it easy for console players or something.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

I actually played and completed the original Deus Ex on the Ps2 and had no idea there was a PC version until much later. To my memory the primary difference - besides the controls - were the graphics, sounds, and some cut content.

So, why is it people get furinated about that new X-COM game having nothing to do with X-COM, but everyone reads this and is like "eh..okay, we'll see."

I call bullshit.

 

[sunburst]

Same on all platforms?

Forgive me for preparing for a shitty port to PC then. That's how this always goes.

My thoughts exactly. I completely wrote the game off as soon as I saw that line. Not that I'd had much hope that this game could possibly live up to the original Deus Ex, but it looked like it might be fun on its own. It still might surprise me, but I seriously doubt it.

 

[The Imp]

"The experience will be the same on PS3, Xbox 360, and PC. The same mechanics - everything is the same,"

Read: "By catering to the weaknesses of the weakest platform we minimize production costs, but it's easier to sell the idea by calling it an 'equal experience.'"

Bye bye, modding tools on the PC. It was nice when they came with every title.

 

[Blind Sight]

I actually played and completed the original Deus Ex on the Ps2 and had no idea there was a PC version until much later. To my memory the primary difference - besides the controls - were the graphics, sounds, and some cut content.

So, why is it people get furinated about that new X-COM game having nothing to do with X-COM, but everyone reads this and is like "eh..okay, we'll see."

I call bullshit.

Because the internet is a shallow *****, sometimes a response is positive, other times in a similar situation it's negative, tis the way of the geek it is.

I'm holding off on both X-COM and Deux Ex until I actually get to play them, as always, and then I'll make my judgements.

*Pause* "HOLY CRAP THERE'S A FUTURISTIC MONTREAL IN DEUX EX 3 I'M SO BUYING IT." *cough*

Also, to the OP, Free Conrad? Really? Is that sarcasm? Whatever, as long as he doesn't show his face in Canada again, traitorous bastard.

 

[Arec Balrin]

A reboot of a great game is almost never a bad thing.

This is either ironic or....

Wolfenstein.
Super Mario Bros.
Alien VS Predator.
Alone In The Dark.
Prince of Persia(only one good reboot).
And possibly future X-COM and Syndicate.

As for Eidos' claim to be developing Human Revolution in parallel for all platforms; Rockstar claimed the same thing about GTA IV.

 

[Tourette]

The new Deus Ex game makes me all tingly and excited

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Someone remind me why they are calling it Deus Ex at all (beyond the obvious, to get more sales and name recognition answer). Just to be clear I'm not complaining about it, it looks really fun so far. I just don't see what it actually has to do with Deus Ex beyond having cyborg's running around, which is hardly unique to the setting or what made it a big name.

The title deus ex is derived from the phrase deus ex machina, which means "god from the machine". The notion that technology can ascend humans or evolve an AI to a powerful form is a common theme in both deus ex and deus ex IW, along with the whole conspiracy approach.

It's in my opinion that deus ex IW flopped so bad due to the developers of the project been too afraid to venture too far beyond the originals story (while simultaneously dropping a ton of the originals actual gameplay as too please the dreaded "casual gamer")

Currently, HR is clearly aiming for the conspiracy side of the series and, presumably for traditions sake, will also throw a boat load of god complex into the mix.

In a sense, bar it been a copyrighted name, Deus Ex isn't exactly narrowed down to the presence of the dentons, versalife, cyborgs, greys or any of the other common entities in the first 2 games. All it needs are the 2 themes mentioned above. It's quite likely they may even return to the series name (depending on HR's success) but not relate it to the current canon, which they are doing rather mildly now with HR. The name "Deus Ex" is a very flexible title for a science-fiction story.

In my eyes Deus Ex is as flexible a title name as say, Final Fantasy. But with more awesomeness and less campness.

Anyway, they have said that the game is a prelude to deus ex, so why not call it deus ex... just because they are ignoring the rather bland design of the original? You do realise it look the way it did, due to hardware limitations of the time. I imagine the artists had a much grander vision, but the tech just wouldn't have it.

 

[Thedayrecker]

I remember hearing somewhere that they're gonna make it more shooter, and less whatever awesome genre the first Deus Ex can be catagorized into.... and that's not cool.

Oh well. A man can dream

 

[The Austin]

A reboot of a great game is almost never a bad thing.

This is either ironic or....

Wolfenstein.
Super Mario Bros.
Alien VS Predator.
Alone In The Dark.
Prince of Persia(only one good reboot).
And possibly future X-COM and Syndicate.

As for Eidos' claim to be developing Human Revolution in parallel for all platforms; Rockstar claimed the same thing about GTA IV.

You named 6 reboots out of the hundreds that exist.

As I said.

 

[Kanodin0]

Someone remind me why they are calling it Deus Ex at all (beyond the obvious, to get more sales and name recognition answer). Just to be clear I'm not complaining about it, it looks really fun so far. I just don't see what it actually has to do with Deus Ex beyond having cyborg's running around, which is hardly unique to the setting or what made it a big name.

The title deus ex is derived from the phrase deus ex machina, which means "god from the machine". The notion that technology can ascend humans or evolve an AI to a powerful form is a common theme in both deus ex and deus ex IW, along with the whole conspiracy approach.

It's in my opinion that deus ex IW flopped so bad due to the developers of the project been too afraid to venture too far beyond the originals story (while simultaneously dropping a ton of the originals actual gameplay as too please the dreaded "casual gamer")

Currently, HR is clearly aiming for the conspiracy side of the series and, presumably for traditions sake, will also throw a boat load of god complex into the mix.

In a sense, bar it been a copyrighted name, Deus Ex isn't exactly narrowed down to the presence of the dentons, versalife, cyborgs, greys or any of the other common entities in the first 2 games. All it needs are the 2 themes mentioned above. It's quite likely they may even return to the series name (depending on HR's success) but not relate it to the current canon, which they are doing rather mildly now with HR. The name "Deus Ex" is a very flexible title for a science-fiction story.

In my eyes Deus Ex is as flexible a title name as say, Final Fantasy. But with more awesomeness and less campness.

Anyway, they have said that the game is a prelude to deus ex, so why not call it deus ex... just because they are ignoring the rather bland design of the original? You do realise it look the way it did, due to hardware limitations of the time. I imagine the artists had a much grander vision, but the tech just wouldn't have it.

You have admitted this game is walking a fine line on whether it even has anything to do with the other Deus Ex games. Even better, you have done all the work of showing how little it actually has to do with Deus Ex for me.

Instead you argue that having little to do with Deus Ex is a good idea. I don't disagree, exploring the concepts it introduced from different angles with different worlds is a good idea. At some point however you should stop calling it by a name that it isn't.

Now sure Deus Ex could have been a flexible name for a sci-fi Final Fantasy equivalent, but that opportunity passed with IW being a direct sequel instead. Such a series could still be made, but why would you insist on calling it Deus Ex when that simply associates it with an existing franchise and the world it occupies? The likeliest answer remains to cash-in on the name. I'm afraid your arguments have only served to strengthen that viewpoint of mine instead of dissuading me.

Further they are insisting this takes place in the same world as Deus Ex. Instead of actually going with your idea they are shoehorning a new conspiracy in where it doesn't fit. Besides complaints about how it doesn't make sense, they are trying to do both a new game and a sequel to the detriment of both.

I have absolutely no idea why you think my argument was on artstyles with your last paragraph.

 

[darknight910]

At least Eidos is being honest with itself and admitting it's a bit of a reboot compared to those guys at 2K with X-Com. "See, you have a base, just like X-Com!" YOUR GAME IS SET IN THE 50'S AND IT'S AN FPS! THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS THAT'S X-COM!