Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)
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I think they are checking what day the ballots are postmarked, not that it matters provided they do the other check to see if there’s already a reported vote in another state, which is another thing that they check while counting. It’s an attempt tho.
Or cheating and using the lie that Dems are cheating to justify themselves. You know, like Republicans have done for the last 30 years?
To repeat what I said 19 pages ago: I'm tired of republicans being so ruled by demagogory that they can fall in line behind someone as grossly unqualified as Trump and look the other way on his every misdeed because "Democrats must be worse, otherwise they wouldn't be Democrats"
The battle between Al Gore and Bush in 2000 took 35 days to get a result, so that was a fact I learned today.
Can we just burn the government down and install people who will actually help the citizens instead of lining their own pockets from special interest groups? That would be better I think.
Can we just burn the government down and install people who will actually help the citizens instead of lining their own pockets from special interest groups? That would be better I think.
Hey whoa, don't question blind faith. Blind faith is all that's keeping Republicans from realizing they're stuck in dead end jobs in dying small towns and the rest of the nation moved on from them 50 years ago and think they smell and won't miss them when they're gone.
To repeat what I said 19 pages ago: I'm tired of republicans being so ruled by demagogory that they can fall in line behind someone as grossly unqualified as Trump and look the other way on his every misdeed because "Democrats must be worse, otherwise they wouldn't be Democrats"
For the Russian Collusion thing once again, I remind everyone of this.
It's one of the reason Trump is fighting so hard to win this election. As Mueller said, once Trump is out, the government can start charging him for at least Obstruction.
Yes, There are a lot of people in the cult, and some republicans.
And there are a lot of people in this world that are utterly disgusted with Trump and what the Republicans have allowed. Take this forum as a microcosm. Most are dismayed that Trump even had 4 years.
It continues to baffle me that a lot of Republicans I meet say "God, stinking Democrats are everywhere, hating on everything Just Trump does" and then "How can there be these many votes for Biden?! CONSPIRACY BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY CAN'T BE THIS MANY EVEN THOUGH WE SAID WE SEE THEM EVERYWHERE!!"
And I say this genuinely. As someone who still have respect for you. I implore you to take a step back and look at what you're saying. It gives the air that you believe the only true outcomes are the ones that align with what you think is right. I don't doubt that Trump won 2016. I hate it. I wish it never happened. I see that Hillary got the popular vote, as most democrats have done since the Original Bush. But that doesn't erase that Trump got the College. And I never contested that. And Lord knows, the Republicans I've met along the way wouldn't even let you try. "GET OVER IT, HILLARY LOST" was the catchphrase of 2017.
But there must be some conspiracy if Trump loses?
Could it be that there are more people who dislike Trump than like him? That people look at the leader in a Crisis and see one who has failed? Who has admitted that he didn't even try? One who has let millions of jobs go. One who is trying to rip apart the environment protections, something polled as a bipartisan issue that people are concerned about. a leader who has rolled back countless civil right protections. Someone who's time and time again prioritized The American Economy over the American People. And those two things are not the same. Someone who dared say that he considered withholding funding from a state because they were mean to him? Someone who betrayed Veterans who came to this country, fought in our military, and still kicked them over the border even though they are OUR vets.
Or a party that feigns outrage if the opposite sides attempts to do an occurrence (Supreme Court), but can not wait at all to do the very thing they once feigned moral indigitation over. A party that does everything it can to strip away voting rights of an already marginalized people, but then tries to purge the votes that are already cast because it might make them lose? A party that cheers on Trump Trains and The Cult harassing others because they might not think like them for one election... but not understand what Minorities are protesting generations of torment from Government sanctioned police brutality.
If you can honestly look at all the things the Republican party did over the last four years and not understand why a new crop of people experienced it and are looking for a different way of governing... I don't know what to say to you anymore. I'm not saying I'm going to block you, because you've been largely respectful at all times. But people have experienced the things I've listed. I'VE experienced the things I've listed. How could any Republican look at all the things I've listed, that I say is important to me and that I and others have suffered though, and just say "The Economy, tho."
It's one of the reason Trump is fighting so hard to win this election. As Mueller said, once Trump is out, the government can start charging him for at least Obstruction.
Because you're only seeing your side and your perceptive and how you feel about Trump.
Yes, There are a lot of people in the cult, and some republicans.
And there are a lot of people in this world that are utterly disgusted with Trump and what the Republicans have allowed. Take this forum as a microcosm. Most are dismayed that Trump even had 4 years.
It continues to baffle me that a lot of Republicans I meet say "God, stinking Democrats are everywhere, hating on everything Just Trump does" and then "How can there be these many votes for Biden?! CONSPIRACY BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY CAN'T BE THIS MANY EVEN THOUGH WE SAID WE SEE THEM EVERYWHERE!!"
And I say this genuinely. As someone who still have respect for you. I implore you to take a step back and look at what you're saying. It gives the air that you believe the only true outcomes are the ones that align with what you think is right. I don't doubt that Trump won 2016. I hate it. I wish it never happened. I see that Hillary got the popular vote, as most democrats have done since the Original Bush. But that doesn't erase that Trump got the College. And I never contested that. And Lord knows, the Republicans I've met along the way wouldn't even let you try. "GET OVER IT, HILLARY LOST" was the catchphrase of 2017.
But there must be some conspiracy if Trump loses?
Could it be that there are more people who dislike Trump than like him? That people look at the leader in a Crisis and see one who has failed? Who has admitted that he didn't even try? One who has let millions of jobs go. One who is trying to rip apart the environment protections, something polled as a bipartisan issue that people are concerned about. a leader who has rolled back countless civil right protections. Someone who's time and time again prioritized The American Economy over the American People. And those two things are not the same. Someone who dared say that he considered withholding funding from a state because they were mean to him? Someone who betrayed Veterans who came to this country, fought in our military, and still kicked them over the border even though they are OUR vets.
Or a party that feigns outrage if the opposite sides attempts to do an occurrence (Supreme Court), but can not wait at all to do the very thing they once feigned moral indigitation over. A party that does everything it can to strip away voting rights of an already marginalized people, but then tries to purge the votes that are already cast because it might make them lose? A party that cheers on Trump Trains and The Cult harassing others because they might not think like them for one election... but not understand what Minorities are protesting generations of torment from Government sanctioned police brutality.
If you can honestly look at all the things the Republican party did over the last four years and not understand why a new crop of people experienced it and are looking for a different way of governing... I don't know what to say to you anymore. I'm not saying I'm going to block you, because you've been largely respectful at all times. But people have experienced the things I've listed. I'VE experienced the things I've listed. How could any Republican look at all the things I've listed, that I say is important to me and that I and others have suffered though, and just say "The Economy, tho."
who is a republican
To repeat what I said 19 pages ago: I'm tired of republicans being so ruled by demagogory that they can fall in line behind someone as grossly unqualified as Trump and look the other way on his every misdeed because "Democrats must be worse, otherwise they wouldn't be Democrats"
but you're winning! keep at it!
holy hell that's a lot of pent-up anger.
Dems made it so you could count ballots delivered 3 days after election day, so Trump campaign is reminding PA residents to mail in theirs... literally playing the Dem's own game. Or maybe you thought I meant the Dems were cheating, because you thought that article meant that the Reps were cheating? Because that's literally playing by their own rules HOLY SHIT WHAT IS UP WITH YOU GUYS
They passed laws before the elections in PA so now they can still receive ballots in the mail and count 'em. Remember - count every vote!
And let's not forget that Gore actually won Florida. But gave up. A good example of things to come with some members of the Democratic Party. That's why I became a Progressive.
Democrats Should Remember Al Gore Won Florida in 2000 — but Lost the Presidency With a Pre-emptive Surrender
Democrats should remember that Al Gore won Florida in 2000 — but lost the presidency with a pre-emptive surrender.
theintercept.com
I'm sure someone will start a "what do you think the Biden Presidency means" prediction thread soon. I don't think I should start one. A supporter should do so. I will try to contribute to it without hyperbole.For the Russian Collusion thing once again, I remind everyone of this.
It's one of the reason Trump is fighting so hard to win this election. As Mueller said, once Trump is out, the government can start charging him for at least Obstruction.
Because you're only seeing your side and your perceptive and how you feel about Trump.
Yes, There are a lot of people in the cult, and some republicans.
And there are a lot of people in this world that are utterly disgusted with Trump and what the Republicans have allowed. Take this forum as a microcosm. Most are dismayed that Trump even had 4 years.
It continues to baffle me that a lot of Republicans I meet say "God, stinking Democrats are everywhere, hating on everything Just Trump does" and then "How can there be these many votes for Biden?! CONSPIRACY BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY CAN'T BE THIS MANY EVEN THOUGH WE SAID WE SEE THEM EVERYWHERE!!"
And I say this genuinely. As someone who still have respect for you. I implore you to take a step back and look at what you're saying. It gives the air that you believe the only true outcomes are the ones that align with what you think is right. I don't doubt that Trump won 2016. I hate it. I wish it never happened. I see that Hillary got the popular vote, as most democrats have done since the Original Bush. But that doesn't erase that Trump got the College. And I never contested that. And Lord knows, the Republicans I've met along the way wouldn't even let you try. "GET OVER IT, HILLARY LOST" was the catchphrase of 2017.
But there must be some conspiracy if Trump loses?
Could it be that there are more people who dislike Trump than like him? That people look at the leader in a Crisis and see one who has failed? Who has admitted that he didn't even try? One who has let millions of jobs go. One who is trying to rip apart the environment protections, something polled as a bipartisan issue that people are concerned about. a leader who has rolled back countless civil right protections. Someone who's time and time again prioritized The American Economy over the American People. And those two things are not the same. Someone who dared say that he considered withholding funding from a state because they were mean to him? Someone who betrayed Veterans who came to this country, fought in our military, and still kicked them over the border even though they are OUR vets.
Or a party that feigns outrage if the opposite sides attempts to do an occurrence (Supreme Court), but can not wait at all to do the very thing they once feigned moral indigitation over. A party that does everything it can to strip away voting rights of an already marginalized people, but then tries to purge the votes that are already cast because it might make them lose? A party that cheers on Trump Trains and The Cult harassing others because they might not think like them for one election... but not understand what Minorities are protesting generations of torment from Government sanctioned police brutality.
If you can honestly look at all the things the Republican party did over the last four years and not understand why a new crop of people experienced it and are looking for a different way of governing... I don't know what to say to you anymore. I'm not saying I'm going to block you, because you've been largely respectful at all times. But people have experienced the things I've listed. I'VE experienced the things I've listed. How could any Republican look at all the things I've listed, that I say is important to me and that I and others have suffered though, and just say "The Economy, tho."
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the ruling. The ruling is not that the voting process was extended for several days, it is that ballots mailed before the polls closed but delayed at the post office will not be unduly penalized. The ruling actually is quite explicit on that point, noting that if a "preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that it was mailed after Election Day", it is not valid. What the Wisconsin Campaign is allegedly doing is literally a solicitation to commit voter fraud, albeit one that would be difficult to conclusively prove in criminal court because it'd be relatively difficult to prove mens rea.
So...What's the grace period before being able to say snide comments about "Biden Derangement Syndrome"?
Then we should also make a thread about "How did Trump's Presidency affect our Country" thread as well. A supporter should make it as well.
It's fine to Predict what Biden could do. What direct he can take our Country. That's well and fine to do. But If the Trump's Presidency thread gets made, then everything should be counted. The things that when are brought up, people don't answer directly. All the things I said. The encouragement Trump has given to these Republican "Bad Actors".
I mean you know that it's for mail in ballots postmarked before or on election day, not posted days after. I know you know that because you're not stupid. You know there's a difference so why are you pretending that there isn't.
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