Emotion-less decision-making

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Hojre

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Now, I will have to apologize for any harsh language I may say during this post, but, it is a topic that I feel greatly for.

Ok, I am a 18 year old guy from Denmark, who is, in my own words unfortunate.
Explanation incoming.

I have a brain disorder, cause by a blow to the head, causing me to not feel many emotions correctly, as well as not being able to work just properly around people, so obviously, I try to stick to myself.

The sole exception to me sticking to myself, is in World of Warcraft, which is pretty much where I meet new people often giving a reasonable impression... Well, unless they're idiots, obviously.

Now, because of my brain disorder, I can't properly feel love, happiness, and the like, however, I am not only blaming my brain disorder for that, but more the fact that I haven't felt those emotions for many years. That pretty much means I go around not really feeling much but just being quite depressed a bunch.

Actually, most of my joys come from me talking to others, and just being friendly.
And I don't just like to, I think I need to.

When I talk to someone who's going through depression, I just feel good that I am helping, and I will persistently, in my own way, try to make this person trust me so I can learn about them, and help them.
That is about the only time I care about other people... When I need them to feel good about myself. And I will panic, and I will feel terrible if I fail, or cannot help a person.

But, onwards, during my time doing this I get a lot of: "You're a nice guy, nice to talk to, etc" and a few people have taken it to them to "fall" for me, as in in a romantic fashion
This was the case with my ex-girlfriend.

Now, recently I start talking to this girl, who is depressed, a lot, and I do what I do, and talk to her, and what do ya know, she is one of those who "Fall" for me, ironically, I didn't notice until she told me, followed by that she didn't want to talk anymore because of it.

Now, this girl is single, so there'd be nothing wrong with it, theoretically. However, even after she said she was gonna not talk to me again, she comes back, and talks like nothing happened, which I understand, it's happened before when people open up to me and don't really know me that well. But they all come back, and so did she.
But during a following day she expresses her "falling" for me quite a bit more... Aggressively, if you will, and I respond by saying that I was too, for her, because I honestly was, and am. Whether that's because of me being dependant on other people being depressed, or me actually caring about her is something yet to be discovered.

However later that night, she pulls the same stunt, says she doesn't want to talk anymore, leaves, but comes back, this time flat out saying she loves me, which is a bit quick even for me.


I only cautiously respond, but I try to stay as neutral as I can. However throughout all of my time with her, she pushes me away when I get close, saying that she won't ever be happy, and mostly when she leaves, only to come back later, she says it's because she doesn't want to get attached to me.

So, now I am at a crossroads. I can't decide if I should keep trying to help her as long as she comes back, or if I should just suck up a loss, and be depressed until I get the response I need to survive.

So that's what I'd like to ask you. What would you do?

Feel free to ask me further questions, or ask me to go deeper into a subject.
I do have a lack of an overview from the, brain dysfunction most likely, and I most likely lost track of thought a good deal of times writing this.


As a side note, I'd love to ask whoever responds also what makes you happy, and what happiness feels like for you.
 

thesilentman

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First off, welcome to the Escapist. Hope you like it here! :)

About her, I personally would keep helping her. Even if she pushes you away, help her. If you get a satisfaction that "I helped someone", go for it.

I'd like to know about your condition a little more, if it's okay with you. I've never heard of this before, and I'd like to learn more.

What makes me happy? Well, just the feeling that I made an impact in someone's life. I really like when someone tells me thank you with a sincere tone, which is why I frequent the Advice forum.

Hope I helped and good luck. :)
 

Hojre

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I made a lengthier post where I described my brain-disorder in detail, but ended up scrapping it due to the fact I lost track of my thoughts a lot. But I'll try to make it concise.

I was hit in the head some years back with a baseball bat, apparently causing damage to parts of my brain, the front right to be precise.
Now whether or not this disorder has anything at all to do with my weak points is unknown, but likely that it does.

Ok, to try and summarize what is wrong with me.


I need to always have things in "boxes", as in things need to be doing what they're meant to, and everything has a schedule.

I need to be stimulated visually, or I grow nervous of my surroundings, especially people, as I feel quite insecure around people, which is why I bond best through indirect messaging.

Now, to the fun emotional stuff:
I don't really feel anything... Ever... I am just content, or at best sad. That may just be me being depressed though :)

I need to be supported by other people a lot, as I have both trouble gaining new memory, and I am really insecure about everything I do, because I want, no, need to have everything neatly packaged in their "boxes"

I have big issues generating an overview, which DEFINITELY is because of the blow to the head.
That means I cannot play RTS games particularly well, since I have no multi-tasking capability.
It also affects my ability to write these posts effectively

I also, have a big problem with sharing with other people, empathy, and the like.
For example, the other day, when a 6 year old kid in my foster family fell with a plate and cut himself badly, I stepped over him, and continued my work.
Partially because I didn't know what to do, and partially because I don't really... Care, if that makes sense?

On a general note, the areas affected, is emotions, and ability to create an overview.
Most of my nervosity doesn't come from the dysfunction, but rather from me having been let down by most people I trusted, like my mother tried to strangle me last Christmas.

And just to make you happy :3
*Sincere tone* Thank you!
 

Quaidis

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Sounds to me like the girl is greedily looking for feedback and is trying to stimulate a reaction out of you by coming at you more strongly each time. You, clearly, aren't expressing the same emotions back and it's making her over-emote, feel longing/loneliness, and step back to reassess how best to handle this or figure out what she's doing wrong.

The best thing to do is calmly tell her where your boundaries lay. Tell her up front what's bothering you about her 'running off' and where she's best stopping her affections. Or, simply, tell her to take it slow.


I had a similar head injury to the front, detaching the bits that separate my emotions and my judgement. Except I can't control the emotions at times, especially anger, and I empathize too much to the point that I respond to how a person looks and sounds more than towards what they're saying. Don't tend to show emotions on my face as well, which some random strangers occasionally mistake as me being an asshole. And... I'm blunt with everything. So I know where you're coming from in a sense... Then again, each injury is different and effects people differently.
 

Hojre

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Really happy for the responses, as the are gonna be helping me shape my "game-plan" on this.
So, here's to hoping for the best, I guess.
Once again, thanks.
 

Johnny Impact

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There are people who never took any blow to the head who would happily step over a hurt child. The fact that you care about not caring means you do care, after all.

At the age of 18 people usually aren't mature enough to understand their feelings or decisions. This girl has probably never known real love and probably is not in love with you. I'm not criticizing you or the girl here specifically, I'm not saying she's lying, I'm just saying she probably doesn't know what she's saying. Be aware that when she says "I love you" she probably means "I'm really into you at this moment." If she's flitting back and forth like you describe, she is probably afraid of her feelings. She doesn't know what to do.

Also, keep in mind the cardinal rule: Women Don't Make Sense. This has nothing to do with anything in your head, rather it is a well documented fact.
 

Hojre

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You seem to have completely misunderstood my intentions but OK, I'll roll with it.
Now I care about keeping up appearances, surviving, however the person itself I couldn't care much less for, because people have this general idea of getting on my nerves, and being plain annoying.

My question was not whether or not I should engage in a relationship with her, but rather if I should continue trying to help her in the way I just do, or if I should steer clear in case of emotional fallout.

Now the swelling in my head IS something that is not just affecting my emotions, but also affecting my ability to create an overview, which I guess is why you misunderstood me, to which I am sorry.

I also do go on to mention that my symptoms(?) may not be the cause of this blow to the head, however, since I have been dealt a blow to the head in the area around my right temple, which is around the part of the brain that handles those two things, emotions and the ability to create an overview.

This was a thing that the professional that did the tests on me was quite aware, and he, as a professional attributed those lapses in my person to that single blow to the head.

Now, I kinda forgot where I was going with this, so I better let it rest.

I assure you, no offense was meant with this post, however much it may seem that it is intended as such. That is simply not the case.
 

ultrachicken

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Based on her erratic and immature behavior, I would argue that she's far too unstable to be a suitable partner for anyone. That said, if you enjoy helping her out and you have no reason to believe she might act in a harmful manner if you keep her close to you, then you should clearly keep talking with her. Though she might take rejection quite poorly.