Environmental Warrior James Cameron Gives Avatar Cast Blue Hybrid Cars

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What I never understood about the Hybrid cars is that the prius is just so.fucking.ugly. Why not make Hybrids that don't give off the pretentious douchehat appearance with no aesthetic taste? I'd have no problem buying a hybrid Maserati (if I had the money).
Besides, Cameron is fucking loaded. He should have been buying them Tesla Roadseters.
 

Garquille

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Canid117 said:
The funny thing is that Hybrid cars are actually worse for the environment than most other cars.
Zenode said:
He does realise that to make a Prius it actually puts out more pollution than an SUV would in its entire life?
TestECull said:
I'd then remind him how it does more damage than a Land Rover Discovery/Hummer H2/Suburban/whatever other SUV the yuppies are bawwing about at the moment
Hey, you guys wanna stop perpetuating baseless lies?
Cool, thanks.

Blind Sight said:
Pretentious environmentalists are news now?

Hey Cameron, guess how much pollution came out of actually making Avatar and then showing it in theatres? But of course you don't care about that, you think your little cars are what's going to save the world. Classic uppity hypocrite, almost as bad as people like Michael Moore who preach anti-capitalism messages but make millions off of working through the capitalist system.
You're sounding pretty pretentious yourself. You mention creating pollution while advocating a greener planet, and making money while condemning capitalism, somehow nullify their message (however logical or effective the message is). The pollution caused can prevent more pollution than would otherwise be created and the money can be further used to further represent the message. You don't win a fight by not doing anything.

The Real Sandman said:
The fact that he (a truly talented film maker) spent nearly 10 years and hundreds of millions of dollars to make a glossy and pretty looking yet nothing short of mediocre and bland special effects driven action movie (like we didn't have enough of those to begin with) is one thing.
What? How is there no place for Avatar as a visceral movie? Like any other special effects driven movie is remotely comparable, or that such a movie is inherently bad.
 

DTWolfwood

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Big money spender! XD he sure as hell can afford to pickup the bill for 11 prius. Still waiting for my Hydrogen Fuel Cell cars <.<
 

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Garquille said:
Canid117 said:
The funny thing is that Hybrid cars are actually worse for the environment than most other cars.
Zenode said:
He does realise that to make a Prius it actually puts out more pollution than an SUV would in its entire life?
TestECull said:
I'd then remind him how it does more damage than a Land Rover Discovery/Hummer H2/Suburban/whatever other SUV the yuppies are bawwing about at the moment
Hey, you guys wanna stop perpetuating baseless lies?
Cool, thanks.
*cough*
http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/magazine/16-06/ff_heresies_09usedcars
http://taxmanblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-big-is-your-prius-carbon-footprint.html
http://hubpages.com/hub/Prius
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-grayson/eco-etiquette-is-a-new-pr_b_257154.html

Its not exactly baseless
So stop perpetuating as an idiot who thinks he knows everything and learn to do some research before you try and call someone out on it.
 

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Internal combuction engines jsut arnt worth it as ways of generating electricity, so all current on the market hybreds are more trouble than they are worth.

The mini-turbines in the jag concept hybred are far better I beleive, they are just expensive, but said jag beats the prius on most performance indicators, speed, acclleration, fuel efficiency (as in millage per unit of fuel) CO2 output, It also will run on most commercially acaliable fuels, including LPG, Petrol, diesal, Bioethonol etc. It is howver bloody expensive.

The fuel cell is basically a battery, that can be topped up many times. While it does put out water vapour, a green house gas, this is countered by the fact, its easy to condense water and therefore limit its emmission, also the easiest way to make it is by applying electricity to water, so if you have a clean reliable source of elctricity, then you have a very clean system.

However to all intents and purposes it is estially a very dangerous battery tech. so if a non toxic, compact battery could be made then surely that is better.

Electricity if it can be got to a vheicle is a useful power source, and a mechanically simple, but high performance vheicle can easially be made.
 

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Garquille said:
The Real Sandman said:
The fact that he (a truly talented film maker) spent nearly 10 years and hundreds of millions of dollars to make a glossy and pretty looking yet nothing short of mediocre and bland special effects driven action movie (like we didn't have enough of those to begin with) is one thing.
What? How is there no place for Avatar as a visceral movie? Like any other special effects driven movie is remotely comparable, or that such a movie is inherently bad.
I don't recall ever saying Avatar was bad, because it isn't. The story does what it needs to, the special effects are really, really, REALLY good, and some of the action scenes were pretty cool. However, this is where the problem with the movie becomes apparent.

This movie was slated to be the one of the biggest, most epic, and most ambitious films of all time [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQdoWgd5INo&feature=related]. But instead of seeing something that was on the same level of quality and scope as Ben-Hur [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOT0ofuscU], Lawrence of Arabia [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDF0at7sC0M] or even It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4nVMJEopU], I saw a movie that was on par with a generic summer blockbuster. It was a fun little flick that had pretty effects and cool action, but nothing else. That's perfectly fine! Sometimes I just want to have fun! But instead of advertising it for what it truly is, they advertised like it was the next Wizard of Oz and people believed it. Well guess what people, Avatar isn't a sprawling epic, its another simplistic special effects driven action movie.


Yet the film still managed to break box office records, get legions of praise, and still be talked about today not because of its overall quality as a film, but because of its name recognition and its filming technology; While another movie released in the same year with virtually the same basic set up only with a much better, more relevant story, more multidimensional characters, way more awesome action, and an R rating that took less time and millions of dollars less to make [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6PDlMggROA] got some praise and big sales, but was completely forgotten within a few months.

Avatar is pretty much the Uncharted 2 of movies. For what it is, it does it right and it looks very pretty, but the whole experience was nothing we haven't seen before and more shallow than a kiddy pool for midgets.
 

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InevitableFate said:
Yeah, but CO2 doesn't precipitate out of the atmosphere. Water does.

Also, you need electricity to electrolyze water into hydrogen. According to the laws of physics, as much, or more electricity than you would get from reacting it back into water. And that electricity has to come from somewhere. Probably from coal or gas-burning municipal power plants.

So in actuality, electric, and fuel-cell cars still have a large carbon footprint, and will continue to do so until we convert the way we generate electricity. Ironically, it was the green movement, and their paranoia about nuclear power that's the reason we're still using fossil fuels for our power generation.

Not that I'm saying we should all go out and buy cars that get 2 miles to the gallon. We're going to have to convert to 'green' transportation eventually. Better sooner rather than later, if you ask me.
 

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Garquille said:
Blind Sight said:
Pretentious environmentalists are news now?

Hey Cameron, guess how much pollution came out of actually making Avatar and then showing it in theatres? But of course you don't care about that, you think your little cars are what's going to save the world. Classic uppity hypocrite, almost as bad as people like Michael Moore who preach anti-capitalism messages but make millions off of working through the capitalist system.
You're sounding pretty pretentious yourself. You mention creating pollution while advocating a greener planet, and making money while condemning capitalism, somehow nullify their message (however logical or effective the message is). The pollution caused can prevent more pollution than would otherwise be created and the money can be further used to further represent the message. You don't win a fight by not doing anything.
Of course, as long as they're proving a 'message', they can be as big a pack of hypocrites as they want, right? It does absolutely nullify their message when they fail to follow their platform in any way. It's not like they should follow their own message or anything, that'd just be crazy. For example, when Moore's Capitalism: A Love Story came out, he could've easily sold it in a way like some musicians do: by having people come and 'pay what they feel' for the product at the theatre, but instead he went with the standard capitalist model. I fail to see him donating his money to benefit the lower classes, and the bourgeois parties he attends doesn't help his case either.

It's a case of talk the talk, where they fail to walk the walk. What does Cameron do to help the environment? He ANNOUNCES to the world bullshit about the Alberta Oil Sands (where he just plain lied, the oil sands are not a 'rich ecosystem', its mostly just moss and lichens like most of northern Canada) and his hybrid cars thing for the sake of attention, he's not actually changing anything, just whining, it's slacker activism at its finest. And no, Avatar is not going to 'prevent pollution by polluting', no government is going to effect policy based off it, no industrial business will reform, and most people see it as the pretentious hypocritical bullshit that it really is. When you spend a billion dollars making a movie, I wonder how many emissions are released and trees are killed.

Yes, there is a massive problem with people preaching certain ideals and then directly negating them with their actions. The 'message' is absolutely goddamn useless if you yourself can't even follow it in the least. Actions speak louder then words, and not showboating actions that put you on the soapbox like this.
 

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MurderousToaster said:
I bet the people who got one are just thinking "Oh shit. I actually have to fucking drive this or everyone will think I'm a dick."
I'm wondering if Cameron himself actually drives one of these.