ESA Calls The Cops on Ouya's Parking Lot E3 Booth

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Wow, if this is true then ESA is ams dick. Free publicity for the little guy at least. If the ESA block them again I am expecting an OUYA blimp and a mobile wet T-shirt contest to counter it.
 

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MetalMagpie said:
Still seems quite pretentious.

"We're an open platform, so we don't want to be at an event that isn't open to the public. We want to hang around outside an event that isn't open to the public, so you guys can all see how open we're being. After all, simply saying, 'We're not going to attend E3 because we don't feel like it's our sort of event' wouldn't get enough attention."
It is a bit pretentious using E3 as a stepping stone but its also clever marketing.

Firstly, if someone asks where it is then all they need to say is near E3 there's a parking lot near X, Y and Z.

At the same time it is public that means ANYONE can visit it including the press, there are no restrictions to who you can talk to, no rules against who can or can't play with the Ouya (OK time restrictions so many people can play with it) what's stopping the Press crossing the road and trying it themselves? OK the E3 and ESA may say they can't but throwing their weight around that much is SUICIDAL and even the media has their limits of tolerance.

Thirdly its clearly cheaper than an E3 booth. I don't know the costs of an E3 booth and how much is profit after electricity but think about it; the Ouya team would have to find Power and other amenities to support them, after all that if its still cheaper than an E3 booth then clearly E3 has their pricing for booths wrong.

Finally after seeing the Google pictures, it looks and feels more welcoming that a lot of gaming events I have seen, its light and airy. If I was local then I'd go.
 

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Well this is a fun read // I do hope that is escalates further, I'm looking forward to see how petty ESA can be and how the Ouya will over come those problems // Send in all of the trucks!

-M
 

Scars Unseen

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Wait wait wait... ..American cops showed up, saw that everything was in order and then went about their business?

Where's the story about them Tazering/Maceing the Ouya people to death and dragging their mutilated corpses behind their ridiculous scooters around the town? Man, they are really going soft on law abiding citizens now!
Not quite. They posed for photos first.




As for the people trying to play a weak devil's advocate here, do you really think that you would have to offload equipment across the street from a place a huge as the Los Angeles Convention Center? According to the venue's website [http://www.lacclink.com/lacclink/south_hall.aspx], the place has 36 loading docks. Benefit of the doubt denied.

EDIT: My apologies, that's 36 loading docks in the South Hall alone. From what I can see, it ends up being 51 total loading docks of various sizes throughout the convention center.
 

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Ohlookit said:
Well this is a fun read // I do hope that is escalates further, I'm looking forward to see how petty ESA can be and how the Ouya will over come those problems // Send in all of the trucks!

-M
What problems? This is giving them more publicity than they could have dared to hope for on their own.
 

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Scars Unseen said:
As for the people trying to play a weak devil's advocate here, do you really think that you would have to offload equipment across the street from a place a huge as the Los Angeles Convention Center?
That's just loading docks, says nothing about where to park the empty trucks afterwards for the week before they have to load them up again. Could be they ran out of space at the usual parking spot, who knows? Thing is, we don't have any proof other than the Ouya person claiming an ESA did it.
 

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I just keep thinking "Well, if you wanted to be at E3..."

Still the ESA doesn't come out well here either because when the Ouya threw a tantrum because of ESA's rules the ESA just refused to play with Ouya anymore. Yes, this whole affair seems very childish to me from both sides.
 

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Scars Unseen said:
Ohlookit said:
Well this is a fun read // I do hope that is escalates further, I'm looking forward to see how petty ESA can be and how the Ouya will over come those problems // Send in all of the trucks!

-M
What problems? This is giving them more publicity than they could have dared to hope for on their own.
There is also that, which I'm sure ESA didn't realize when they started play hard ball // Well jokes on them!

-M
 

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IKWerewolf said:
Thirdly its clearly cheaper than an E3 booth. I don't know the costs of an E3 booth and how much is profit after electricity but think about it; the Ouya team would have to find Power and other amenities to support them, after all that if its still cheaper than an E3 booth then clearly E3 has their pricing for booths wrong.
I mostly agree with what you're saying. But I think this bit may be a bit naive. You don't just pay for the space and amenities at these sort of events. You pay for all the promotion that being at that event gives you. That's why they're always so expensive to go to. The big show for my industry is Mobile World Congress and it is really not cheap to exhibit there! But it's worth it for the exposure you get and the contacts you can make. (Also, apparently a lot of drinking happens.)

I can understand why ESA might be annoyed that Ouya are pigging-backing on their event without paying, but that doesn't mean this is the best way of dealing with it.
 

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Scars Unseen said:
As for the people trying to play a weak devil's advocate here, do you really think that you would have to offload equipment across the street from a place a huge as the Los Angeles Convention Center?
That's just loading docks, says nothing about where to park the empty trucks afterwards for the week before they have to load them up again. Could be they ran out of space at the usual parking spot, who knows? Thing is, we don't have any proof other than the Ouya person claiming an ESA did it.
Well at the very least, we do apparently know that the ESA wasn't supposed to put their trailers there, since the cops made them move them (but let the Ouya guys stay). source [http://phandroid.com/2013/06/11/ouya-e3-booth/]
 

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That little vehicle is funny looking. I can see the police in Demolition Man using it. Other than that I have nothing of value to add, but I'll agree with the guy who said that blocking Ouya's "booth" wasn't intentional.
 

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gabycms said:
I see a lot of people judging the OUYA booth by the single picture in the article, allow me to fix that a bit if i may:

A Google+ post with a few pictures
https://plus.google.com/events/cfhaq4cpa6bn1djob7p75ci0big
Heh, they even got the police to help with the advertising photos. If this really was caused by the ESA, I'd hazard a guess that things did not go as planned.
 

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The ESA, because all the asshats at EA and Microsoft have to do something in their spare time
 

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I don't see how people can be picking on the Ouya here. Even if E3 is right and Ouya couldn't afford the booth, they were simply smart about it and rented a parking lot to showcase their product rather than simply not attend E3 due to lack of funding. That isn't diminishing the console's image; it's showing how intuitive the minds behind the project are and how willing they are to showcase their product at E3, going so far as to bend the rules so they can still get in without the necessary funding. That's pretty admirable, imo.

I'm not exactly gunning for the Ouya; probably gonna be a PC, PS4, Wii U, and 3DS gamer, but I have to at least credit them for playing ESA's game and turning them on their head. Hope they enjoy the free publicity and, if Ouya turns out to be this great damn deal, I might check it out.
 

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Scars Unseen said:
Well at the very least, we do apparently know that the ESA wasn't supposed to put their trailers there, since the cops made them move them (but let the Ouya guys stay). source [http://phandroid.com/2013/06/11/ouya-e3-booth/]
That article still references the original tweet by Ouya. But still no proof it was ESA backing it up. Which is the whole point of our skepticism. How do you know it was the ESA and say, not one of the other companies at the event, or the company that owns the trucks or that the driver decided this was a good place to park?

If it was proven that ESA did do this, then we'd change our stance. I particularly don't care about the Ouya, but support more competition and it's open platform policy. I just think making claims like this without proof is really shaddy and makes them lose some respect points.
 

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So, why did the Ouya chaps need to be in the car park in the first place? Is there a reason they aren't inside?
 

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*wants to reduce awareness of Android gaming platform for not doing it their way*

*calls cops and causes greater awareness for the console and the booth*

Good job, ESA. Would you like a 2nd bullet to shoot yourself in the foot with?
 
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I'm actually with the ESA here. Even if they're being a tad tactless about it, they are entirely right that companies can't just show and decide they are just entitled to the E3 publicity that everyone else at the expo has had to pay for. Either they can afford a booth and are being completely entitled and difficult in this situation, or they can't, in which case I don't see how they have the funding to mass produce a console.
 

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Sol_HSA said:
I kinda see their point though.. if everybody was just camping outside and not paying for booth space, they'd get no money.
So the solution to getting no money from them is to spend even more money to try and trump a penny-ante booth.