ESA Speaks Vaguely About SOPA Support

[vansau]

I say we still do whatever it takes to burn the ESA to the ground. They are just going to try to pull something like this again.

I agree. These people are just bad. Bad, bad, BAD.

OK, look. The ESA isn't the devil incarnate. They were a huge part in fighting to protect the rights of game developers and publishers in last year's Supreme Court case. You just have to remember that this is an organization that's composed of, represents and fights for the rights of companies. They don't fight for the rights of their customers; it just so happens that a lot of times the interests of the companies and the customers align.

Unfortunately, this wasn't one of those times.

If we're going to hate on anybody, can't we all just despise Go Daddy?

 

[chadachada123]

I say we still do whatever it takes to burn the ESA to the ground. They are just going to try to pull something like this again.

I agree. These people are just bad. Bad, bad, BAD.

OK, look. The ESA isn't the devil incarnate. They were a huge part in fighting to protect the rights of game developers and publishers in last year's Supreme Court case. You just have to remember that this is an organization that's composed of, represents and fights for the rights of companies. They don't fight for the rights of their customers; it just so happens that a lot of times the interests of the companies and the customers align.

Unfortunately, this wasn't one of those times.

If we're going to hate on anybody, can't we all just despise Go Daddy?

I agree with this guy. Without the ESA, California's anti-video game law may have not been heard by the Supreme Court, and it would have set a precedent for other states to institute their own laws restricting video games.

It sucks that they also support such assholish measures as SOPA, but they aren't quite as bad as the MPAA/RIAA, because game developers/publishers are a bit more, well, not fucking retarded in wanting to not piss off their constituents too much. Kinda.

 

[Sporky111]

"From the beginning, ESA has been committed to the passage of balanced legislation...

And I stopped taking them seriously right there. They are grossly misrepresenting the community. I'm shocked that those companies that said they weren't supporting SOPA didn't just leave the ESA. If they did that, then I'm sure others on the fence would follow. Might just the kick in the pants that would either make the ESA listen to the people funding them, or make them curl up and cry until they fade away and a new organization is formed in their place.

 

[vansau]

OK, look. The ESA isn't the devil incarnate. They were a huge part in fighting to protect the rights of game developers and publishers in last year's Supreme Court case. You just have to remember that this is an organization that's composed of, represents and fights for the rights of companies. They don't fight for the rights of their customers; it just so happens that a lot of times the interests of the companies and the customers align.

Unfortunately, this wasn't one of those times.

If we're going to hate on anybody, can't we all just despise Go Daddy?

Wasn't that the EMA? http://www.entmerch.org/ The ESA didn't play that big a part in EMA Vs. Brown (the clue is in the title) it was the EMA who took on the case, not the ESA.

The full name of the case was called "Edmund G. Brown, Governor of the State of California, and Kamala Harris, Attorney General of the State of California v. Entertainment Merchants Association and Entertainment Software Association"

 

[Strazdas]

Hmm yes. But we all knew they support copyright enforcement legislation in general, so this is no surprise. We are all glad that they have dropped this, because it means people can go to E3 now.

E3 was still going to happen, and people were still going to cover it. The only way that the show could have failed would have been if ESA members had pulled themselves from the show and given newsgroups nothing to cover.

Yes, I'm aware of this. I never meant to say that the show would have failed, I just mean that now people don't feel like they have a moral obligation to boycott the biggest gaming news event.

so we boycotted something and their plan to rule the world has failed, so we can go and give them our money again so they could try to rule the world again. good thinking.

sitting in the middle and waiting for a good opportunity reminds me more of mafia than of business.