Escape to the Movies: Atlas Shrugged
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Pretty much my view of it: Anyone effected by a decision's outcome should have some say in that decision.
on personal matters of morality, taste, and what you want to do with what you have, go nuts. When you want to make a splash in society at large: well, that's what elected governments are for -- to ensure that the people whose lives you are impacting have some say over whether or not it happens.
as for the movie-
Honestly, I'd never even heard that this was coming out. Sounds to me like someone was just trying to cash in on the Tea Partiers (really, why else release it on April 15th? Is that supposed to be subtle? Reminds me of all the horror movies that came out on June 6, 2006)
on personal matters of morality, taste, and what you want to do with what you have, go nuts. When you want to make a splash in society at large: well, that's what elected governments are for -- to ensure that the people whose lives you are impacting have some say over whether or not it happens.
as for the movie-
Honestly, I'd never even heard that this was coming out. Sounds to me like someone was just trying to cash in on the Tea Partiers (really, why else release it on April 15th? Is that supposed to be subtle? Reminds me of all the horror movies that came out on June 6, 2006)
Oh Bob, you don't need to use Andrew Ryan's "Mind trick" thing to get me to watch next time. Hell if you blatantly attacked all the films I like for a month straight I'd still come back because I find your reasoning so compelling.
P.S Forgive me for using the word compelling.
P.S Forgive me for using the word compelling.
I heard some stuff about this movie coming out, but I guess I just had the Naive hope that the director would die from a heart attack or something and stop the movie in its tracks (no pun intended).
The book was... decent and I knew that if it were ever turned into a movie, it'd suck horribly unless it had top tier actors and a good screenplay.
It apparently had neither.
The book was... decent and I knew that if it were ever turned into a movie, it'd suck horribly unless it had top tier actors and a good screenplay.
It apparently had neither.
i still dont get how the hell they expected it to work with a modern setting. The plot worked in the book because of the greater importance railroads had in the early 20th century due to the lack of faster methods of travel. These days no one cares about trains.
At risk of sounding like an elitist snob... some books will never work well in film, I think. Atlas Shrugged is one of them. I read and liked the book, even if I don't entirely agree with its message. I would be interested in a good film adaptation, but... this doesn't sound like this is it. Oh well. Moving on. 
I can't say that I'm surprised. Take something as complicated as Atlas Shrugged and try to turn it into a six-hour film? I think not.
I've always found Rand's philosophy kind of flawed. Like Bob said, I like the "broad strokes" of it, but there's a problem. She acts as if the gifted and the dullards are separated by clear lines, but they aren't. Who are the gifted ones? Me? You? MovieBob? Ayn Rand? Stephen Hawking?
I've always found Rand's philosophy kind of flawed. Like Bob said, I like the "broad strokes" of it, but there's a problem. She acts as if the gifted and the dullards are separated by clear lines, but they aren't. Who are the gifted ones? Me? You? MovieBob? Ayn Rand? Stephen Hawking?
I think a lot of people (including modern Rand proponents) forget the context of her philosophy. She escaped Soviet Russia extremely disillusioned and cynical about government, and objectivism is more a response to Soviet-style communism than anything else.
It's funny, the best iteration of this groundbreaking work of 20th literature, is Bioshock. Ladies and gentleman of the 'games as art' debate: we have won. Games can tell better stories than movies. FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!!!
In my experience, most people who take issue with objectivism are just regurgitating an opinion they heard somewhere else. I swear, sometimes they even repeat Jon Stewart word for word. It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing.
How much do you want to bet, this movie is going to catch on in a couple weeks and get all this attention even though its not that great, while the general public goes on none-the-wiser of the best adaptation of "Atlas Shrugged", Bioshock.
OT:
Can someone tell me if objectivism is considered conservative or liberal or neither?
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Can someone tell me if objectivism is considered conservative or liberal or neither?
Now I want to read Atlas Shrugged. I sure it's probably not as strange as the book 'Geek Love'.
I just read the entire book as Ayn Rand's Mary Sue Taggart or Talbert wanting to sleep with businessmen. Like twilight only replace vampires with CEO's or something.Caligulove said:
Well I've always found that help can be addictive. Give a man a hand too many times and soon he loses his independence and starts using you as a crutch. Why would you do anything productive if either way you were made comfortable? Desperation tends to breed productivity, so I can see how an objectivist would feel that, yes.Eric the Orange said:
I would say its more conservative in economics and more liberal socially. I think of it as libertarianism's snobby older brother.triggrhappy94 said:
In my experience most people who generalize end up looking silly. That depresses me too sometimes.head desk tricycle said:
/feels compelled to watch Moviebob's next Escape to the Movies because he used the trigger phrase used to trigger the hypnosis that served to deconstruct video game linearity in Bioshock
Ninja'd!!Abandon4093 said:
That's why I'll become a great Hollywood director BEFORE I make my "Brave New World" movie AFTER acquiring the rights.