Escape to the Movies: Bourne Legacy

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Darth_Payn

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EgonCom said:
4:30 - "America..."

Seriously? NOW You get that notion? And where were You during last decade of American filmmaking? (and game making for that matter?)

I got sick and tired of this trope ages ago.
I agree, this trope is so overused in political/military movies and video games, it's stupid. I think the makers want to reflect the American public's paranoia of the government, but factoring in the "People Are Dumb" principle, and it winds up fostering and nuturing paranoia. Just knock it off, guys.

ivc392 said:
So we are getting an ALF reboot, but now he is a alcoholic, emotionally retarded, physical and verbally abusing stoner alien... ok, it's not original but at least it sounds way more entertaining than the original show..
You just described last year's "PAUL", didn't you?
 

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My hope is that despite this being a vestigial arm growing out of another vestigial arm of a franchise, it makes enough money and wins Jeremy Renner enough action flick cred to maybe earn some more screen time either in the next Avengers film or a Hawkeye film of his own. This might happen anyways if DC ever works the kinks out of that piano strapped to their ass and gets something resembling a DC film universe produced, and Marvel needs to pit their secondary-colored master archer against DC's secondary-colored master archer, but I liked him as Hawkeye. He was cool, professional and had a dry sense of humor that suited a guy who's special talent is to basically snipe at you with arrows. Eh, that's just my opinion anyways.
 

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I don't remember a damn thing about the Bourne movies. I can't even remember which order I watched them in, because they seemed so milquetoast in terms of impact. I do remember wondering why the couldn't just leave the fucking guy alone, considering how hard he was trying to be left alone. A case of "just give Tony Jaa his fucking elephant".
 

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I would TOTALLY go see an ALF movie... but ONLY if they still use the puppet.
 

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Didn't see the Bourne films, but the comment at the start was what bugged me about Quantum of Solace. That movie had some interesting ideas about the underlying conflict and real-politics going on... and then the final fight is an old-school fight in the super-villains base while it is in the process of blowing up. I've had fun with the goofy old Bond movies and I had fun with the gritty and realisic-ish Casino Royal, but QoS fell kind of in between and didn't do much.

Plus, someone needs to tell the director that if you must follow a footchase with shakycam, FFS don't have both participants being identically dressed white men. That was about 5 minutes of my life utterly wasted. Those scenes probably still costed a lot of money to shoot, and yet they could've shown a black screen the entire time and I wouldn't have seen anything less.
 

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Well that's good hes a new character entirely.
I dislike when films replace the main actors but keep them as the same characters and then don't even reference it.

Like Bruce in the Avengers >.>
 

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Darth_Payn said:
ivc392 said:
So we are getting an ALF reboot, but now he is a alcoholic, emotionally retarded, physical and verbally abusing stoner alien... ok, it's not original but at least it sounds way more entertaining than the original show..
You just described last year's "PAUL", didn't you?
Not really, but now that you mention it, thats a very accurate description of that alien on American Dad. I don?t remember Paul being neither emotionally retarded, alcoholic nor physical or verbally abusing.
 

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DRTJR said:
Wait, we were supposed to like the Borne movies? My dislike of the Borne trilogy stemmed from the half/half approach. Never delving into true camp while still mascaraing as a serious movie.
Isn't it strange. People on these forums are stating they generally didn't enjoy the series, as did Bob (as do I) and yet these films made some serious cash.

In any case, it's a shame movie Bob didn't mention Edward Norton.

I'm watching this movie with my best friend (one step away from a Bourne book/ movie fanatic) but I'm watching simply to see if Norton still has the power to keep a boring film entertaining enough to watch.

freakonaleash said:
So who should we fight? The Russians? The Chinese?
Hows about they don't 'fight' at i.e. have movies star non-Americans. Exclude America full stop.
 

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I've seen the second and third Bourne movies three to six times each, largely because I kept forgetting that I'd seen them, and I got to experience them, several times, in this weird deja vu way where I could remember what happens in the next five minutes, but not anything after that.

Currently, while I at least know I've seen them, and multiple times even, I can't remember what happens in them at all, and I can't even give a firm count of how many times I've seen them.

Bourne Legacy: to be watched on Netflix once, and forgotten immediately after.
 

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I have only fallen asleep in the theater twice ever. This includes when I was a little kid. One was some Rom-Com a girlfriend at the time made me see. Pretty sure it had Reese Witherspoon. That had an excuse being that I just worked two double shifts in as many days.
The other one was the bourne... second one. I was so off put by jittercam that I stopped focusing on the movie then I realized while I KNEW what was going on, I didn't understand it, got bored and dozed off.

I didn't bother with the next one and I won't bother with this.
 

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I saw them as revenge movies. He tries to find out who he is, then wants to live a normal life but they wont let him and i think they try and kill him. So he goes looking for them instead. The Damon films were great to watch. I think Bob looks to much into them than he needs to.

Will watch the Legacy movie soon.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Bob you're REALLY trying too hard to fit jingoism into this series. Did it honestly fly right over your head that the whole point of Bourne was 'what happens when we go too far?' Or did you just fall asleep for the last five minutes of Ultimatum and miss Matt Damon saying EXACTLY THAT to the guy who tried to kill him?

I think you never really got out of the Michelle Bay Transformers mindset.
Lol. He's been in that mindset since even before Transformers. It just got worst after.
It's why I don't respect Bob's critique anymore.
 

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I just love how we can't win.

When it came out that in Assassin's Creed 3 there would be Americans(Or soon-to-be americans) dying, there was an uproar of "Finally, America gets to be the bad guy and stop picking on the rest of the world!".

And then Bob comes out with "America's so bad that the only country that can challenge America is...America."

So what is it you want? Hmm? What the fuck is it you want? I suppose the only way to make anyone happy would be to remove the US from the globe from now on. Just spray paint some blue over that part of the world and pretend like the american continents just don't exist anymore and the only part of the world that matters is the east, because that's definitely the vibe I'm getting. As far as the US is concerned, we can't do anything right, we can't do anything good, and we're the bane of the entire planet.

Huh, you know when I think about it that way, it actually DOES make me want to pick up a weapon and treat every other country like it wants my blood. Because if the attitudes I keep hearing are correct, they do.
 

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And from the look of those clips, it also has ugly Transformers-style blue-and-orange color correction. Granted, it's not as severe as in some films (*cough*Hugo*cough*) but it's definitely noticeable.
 

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ShadowKatt said:
I just love how we can't win.

When it came out that in Assassin's Creed 3 there would be Americans(Or soon-to-be americans) dying, there was an uproar of "Finally, America gets to be the bad guy and stop picking on the rest of the world!".

And then Bob comes out with "America's so bad that the only country that can challenge America is...America."

So what is it you want? Hmm? What the fuck is it you want? I suppose the only way to make anyone happy would be to remove the US from the globe from now on. Just spray paint some blue over that part of the world and pretend like the american continents just don't exist anymore and the only part of the world that matters is the east, because that's definitely the vibe I'm getting. As far as the US is concerned, we can't do anything right, we can't do anything good, and we're the bane of the entire planet.

Huh, you know when I think about it that way, it actually DOES make me want to pick up a weapon and treat every other country like it wants my blood. Because if the attitudes I keep hearing are correct, they do.
I get the feeling a lot too. :/ People apparently just want America to vanish from existence.

OT: I loved the Bourne trilogy but I had a feeling this one wasn't going to be as good.
 

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"America, we're so awesome that the only enemy who can challenge us now is... us." The thing is, America spends more on it's defence than the rest of the global top 10 combined. The idea of any equivalent power taking on the US, even at a spy level, ended with the cold war. If you're producing a high-tech spy thriller, you either have your hero take on some extremely well funded/connected terrorists or it's going to have to be America.

On the Bourne series specifically, I've also been under-whelmed in the past. I know I've seen two of them, but can't remember which two and couldn't tell you anything about them. In fact, my biggest criticism of the Daniel Craig Bond films is that someone thought they needed to be more like Bourne, when they're really at their best when they're not.
 

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DemBones said:
I might still go see this for Jeremy Renner. I've liked his work since The Hurt Locker and when he was on a fun cop show called The Unusuals (I'm curious if any of the other 5 people throughout human existence who have seen this show also read this site).
The Unusuals was fucking amazing. I love that show. I saw this last night at a midnight showing and posted the following on facebook:

I dug it. Quite a bit actually. Jeremy Renner is a solid leading man and convincing as a spy hands down (plus, you know, hot like burning). Rachel Weisz and Edward Nortan (sporting grey hair and looking Like A Boss) both bring their A game. I don't think it was as action packed as the other one's, this is a slow burn, and I liked it that way. That's what I think of when I think of spies. Aaron Cross, our new main dude, is different from Jason Bourne in a very important way and that is that he remembers being in the program. It makes him a different kind of protagonist. I think I was expecting more action but at the end of the movie I felt satisfied. They are obviously looking for another trilogy and if this one does well I hope they get a chance. Renner and company are a treat to see on the screen.

Do I have some nick picks? Of course there isn't a perfect movie. Like all of the Bourne movies it is a little too shaky cam for me but this is probably the most steady looking movie in the franchise. It is a little slow in the beginning but I was never bored. I got the feeling that the frankly surprising amount of dude bros that were there were getting a little antsy but they are dude bros so their opinion is worthless anyway. I could have used some more of pre program Aaron Cross, or even some more during the program Aaron Cross, but I'm willing to let it slide.

Over all I'm going to give it 3.5/4 stars and a recommendation. I'm also going to say that I really enjoy midnight premieres more than going during the day. Anyone staying up until 2AM on a Thursday night to see a movie clearly wants to be there and thus is less likely to pull out their cell phones or talk. I didn't have to tell off one person unlike last week in Total Recall.

PS: Jesus Jeremy your arms are like lovely. Is that weird that I really like your arms? Because I really like your arms.